|Jun-07-05|| ||WannaBe: Not that it matters, (black won) but would 33. ... Bf3+ accomplish anything?|
|Jun-07-05|| ||notsodeepthought: Good pun - although Italian native speakers might regret that Sale did not get to play Mario Pepe in this database, it would have been the ideal salt-and-pepper combination.|
|Jun-07-05|| ||JimBowman: Well after looking at this game It seems very poorly played by white to me, I had been playing the Samisch variation and having good success with it, not knowing it was even a variation at all. White to my view lets blacks knight in with 8d5,then follows that with 9h3? Another weakening move which forces the Queen to a defencive position on a file that has the inclination to open due to the pawn structure, giving black an advantage in both developement and tempo, from this point on to me black is winning. I am somewhat new to chess so let me know if what I saw here has any merrit this is not Grand Master calibre chess by white?|
|Jun-07-05|| ||the box: I don't think Whites extra space is enough for the pawn after something like
9. ♘h3 ♗xh3 10. f4 (10. gxh3? ♘xf3, forking king and queen) ♗d7 11. h3 ♘h5 12. fxe5 ♗xe5 13. ♗d3 ♘g3 14. ♖g1 c5 |
There are definitely other lines but I don't think white has any advantage in them.
|Jun-07-05|| ||TheAlchemist: <notsodeepthought> Nice one.|
|Jun-07-05|| ||melianis: Yes, and for 15. Bf4? of course Bd4. Don't know the main line here (if there's any)|
|Jun-07-05|| ||OhioChessFan: Okay, I give up. Why not 23 Qxg2?|
|Jun-07-05|| ||backyard pawn: <OhioChessFan> 23.,...Bxa1 would follow, I guess. Each side takes an unprotected rook.
Alexey must have really been suetin' during this game.|
|Jun-07-05|| ||Granite: This game needs more sacrifices. :p|
|Jun-07-05|| ||notsodeepthought: <backyard pawn> <Alexey must have really been suetin' during this game.> Brilliant...|
|Jun-07-05|| ||Saph: nice pun <backyard> ;)|
|Jun-07-05|| ||khalil the King: nice game
|Jun-07-05|| ||kevin86: The words salt,salary,and the Italian "sale"-all relate to an item that in the past,had great value. Before refrigeration,salt was a widely used preservative for meat. It was so important that people were paid in salt (as they are paid money today). There is an old expression:"He is worth his salt".|
The opening moves are unusual-as is the ending:an exchange for four pawns.
|Jun-07-05|| ||patzer2: Clearance sale? On missed opportunities perhaps? White misses three chances to win and at least two other chances to draw before a final mistake that allows Black the win.|
An analysis, validated with Fritz 8, follows:
<1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. c4 d6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. f3 Nc6 6. Be3 a6 7. Qd2 Rb8 8. d5 Ne5
9. h3 Nh5 10. Qf2 f5 11. f4 O-O 12. fxe5 fxe4 13. Qh4 Bxe5 14. Nge2 b5 15. g4?> Instead of this weakening move, White secures a won position after 15. cxb5! axb5 16. O-O-O . <15... Ng3 16. Nxg3 Rf3 17. Nge2?!> Much stronger is 17. Ngxe4! Rxe3+ 18. Be2 b4 19. Qh6! Bxc3+ 20. Nxc3 Re5 21. Nb1 e6 22. Nd2 exd5 23. Nf3 Re8 24. cxd5 Qf6 25. Kf2 Qxb2 26. Qd2 Qxd2 27. Nxd2 . <17... Rxe3 18.
Bg2 Qf8?> This allows White the winning shot 19. Rf1! (which fortunately for Black was not played). Instead, Black should play for equality with 18... Bg3+! 19. Qxg3 Rxg3 20. Nxg3 bxc4 21. O-O-O c6 22. dxc6 e6 (Interesting but risky for Black is 22... Qb6!? 23. Rd2 e6 24. Ngxe4 d5 25. Nf6+ Kg7 26. c7 Rb7 27. Rf1 Qe3 28. Ne8+ Kh6 29. Rf3 Qg1+ 30. Bf1 Kg5 31. Rdf2 h6 32. Ne2 Qh1 33. Re3 d4 34. Re5+ Kh4 35. g5 hxg5 36. Rf8 Qxf1+ 37. Rxf1 .) 23. Ngxe4 d5 24. Rd2 Qe7 25. Rhd1
Kg7 26. Nxd5 exd5 27. Rxd5 Qe6 28. Rd6 Qe5 29. R1d2 Qa5 30. Nc3 Qc5 31. Rd8 Qg1+ 32. Nd1 c3 33. bxc3 Qc5 34. Rc2 Qg5+ 35. Rcd2 Qc5 =.) <19. Nxe4?> White misses another winning opportunity by not playing 19.Rf1! Qg7 20. Qg5 Bxc3+ 21. bxc3 Rd3 22. Bxe4 Rxh3 23. cxb5 axb5 24. Rb1 .
<19... bxc4 20. Qf2?> This concedes Black the advantage and a strong attack. Instead, he should play 20. Rb1! Bxb2 21. Qf2 Ra3 22. O-O Qxf2+ 23. Rxf2 , keeping the advantage.
<20... Rxe2+!> Now Black is in control. <21. Qxe2 Rxb2 22. Qf3 Rxg2!23. Qxf8+?> White has practical drawing chances after 23. Qxg2!? Bxa1 24. Qe2 Bd4 25. Rf1 Qh6 26. Qf3 Qc1+ 27. Ke2 Qb2+ 28. Ke1 Qb1+ 29. Ke2 Qxa2+ 30. Ke1 Qb1+ 31. Ke2 Qb2+ 32. Ke1 Bf6 33. Nxf6+ exf6 34. Qxf6 Qxf6 35. Rxf6 Bd7 36. Rf4 Bb5=. <23... Kxf8 24. Rc1> Now, inspite of White being the "exchange up," it becomes a mopping up operation for Black's two Bishops and huge pawn majority. <24...Bb7 25. Rf1+ Ke8 26. Nd2 Bxd5 27. Nxc4 Bg3+ 28. Kd1 Rxa2 29. Rc3 Bg2 30. Rg1 Ra1+ 31. Rc1 Rxc1+ 32. Kxc1 Bf4+ 33. Kd1 Bd5 34. Nd2 Kd7 35. Kc2 Be5 36. Kd3 c5 37. Nc4 Bxc4+ 38. Kxc4 Kc6 39. Rd1 g5 40. Rd3 a5
41. Rd2 a4 0-1>
|Jun-07-05|| ||farrooj: really nice game sacrifice wise, thanks for the analysis patzer2|
|Jun-07-05|| ||coucoucou: I love KID|
|Jun-07-05|| ||ajile: The problem is 8.D5 because with E5 open the Black Knight jumps right in there. Usually White waits until Black plays E5 (the pawn move) and THEN pushes D5. In the normal case the Knight can't hop to E5. In the game White wastes 2 moves with his F pawn to get rid of the Knight. Plus he weakens his G3 square badly with H3. Bad opening move order costs White the game.|
|Aug-24-08|| ||computer chess guy: <patzer2: 19. Nxe4? White misses another winning opportunity by not playing 19.Rf1! Qg7 20. Qg5 Bxc3+ 21. bxc3 Rd3 22. Bxe4 Rxh3 23. cxb5 axb5 24. Rb1 .>
I think this line is not so clear: Black can play 20. .. Rd3 and now I do not see a win for White. For example, if 21. Bxe4 bxc4! 22. Bxd3 cxd3 White is temporarily ahead material but can't save the Knight because of the threat of Rxb2.|