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|Jan-20-06|| ||thathwamasi: Oh my god...what a luvly pun...KID is really shrunk here|
|Jan-20-06|| ||kevin86: Black's lace curtain defense is soon going down! Black cannot take the bishop now or recapture on the next move after Bxg5.The white rook and queen are extremely powerful on the h-row together.|
|Jan-20-06|| ||slavyi: I don't think that white should capture 22.Bxg5, but 22.Qh6 seems to be the finest move, that wins the game.|
|Jan-20-06|| ||ReikiMaster: Rabar shrunk the King's InDian (~KID) opening and also a very worthy opponent.|
|Jan-20-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: If 20...Kxg7??, then 21.Qh6+ Kg8 22.Kh8#. Mate is also inevitable after the final position.|
Very nice game, and the pun is even better!!
|Jan-20-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: I love the way that White's bishop goes around Black's g-pawn. :)|
|Jan-20-06|| ||dakgootje: Yup, black didnt really stand a chance here, however ive 2 things to say:|
1. <EmperorAtahualpa> I didnt know black was mate after white put his king next to blacks king (you wrote 22. Kh8# instead of 22. Qh8# ;-)
2. Why didnt white play 16. ♗g5
|Jan-20-06|| ||psmith: <dakgootje> After 16. Bg5 Bg7 White certainly has the advantage, but that is true in the game continuation -- or after several other moves as well. Do you see an immediate win?|
|Jan-20-06|| ||psmith: 9. g4 occurs only once in the database, and it seems the crucial question is what Black should play against it. KID experts have any opinions? Old Fritz (5.32) suggests 9...Qa5 and if 10. h4 h5, or 10. Bh6 Bxh6 11. Qxh6 Qb4.|
|Jan-20-06|| ||gawain: Long ago as a young player I devoured Znosko-Borovsky's marvelous short book How Not to Play Chess. Sadly, Z-B's own games too often show how not to play. But his book is full of good advice for young players and old-but-average players alike.|
|Jan-20-06|| ||chessic eric: The opening of the h-file with 13...hxg6 leads to black's troubles. Either Nxg6 or more likely fxg6 would be preferable.|
|Jan-20-06|| ||chessic eric: <dakgootje> Since 16...Bg7 is an adequate response to 16.Bg5 I think white doesn't want to take away the g5 square from his knight, and it did seem that one more piece was required to break through black's defense.|
I agree with your sentiment that the white Be2 and Rc2 are not necessary for the tactical h-file attack white pursued. Given the success of 18.Nh3 and 19.Ng5 in the game, the question might be why not 16.Nh3 and 17.Ng5 to accelerate the attack.
Regarding 16.Nh3 the only thing I can see is that 16.Be2 overprotects white's pawn structure, especially g4, to prevent the following specualtive defensive sac by black:
17.fxe4,Bxg4 and 18...Bh5. After such an opening of the center and closing of the h-file the uncastled white king will be vulnerable, especially to the e8 rook and there is enough material left on the board that black won't feel the loss of the sacrificed piece until several exchanges take place.
|Jan-20-06|| ||schnarre: Are we sure Rick Morannis wasn't playing White here, considering the day's pun!?|
|Jan-20-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: ok you nitpick <dakgootje> 22.Qh8# ;)|
|Jan-20-06|| ||ThaDoctor: There is just one thing i donīt understand about this game, how do white win with f2-f3, he delay development, and weakening the king site ? (or am i not into this opening ?), just that i donīt understand anything with that opening...|
|Jan-20-06|| ||Ludamad: <ReikiMaster> I believe KID stands for Kings Indian Defence, not, as you say, Kings InDian|
|Jan-20-06|| ||Kwesi: Yes, as opposed to the King's Indian Attack (A07), opening of the day today.|
|Jan-20-06|| ||Ludamad: It seems no matter what I play as black its always a defense ;)|
|Jan-20-06|| ||chessic eric: <ThaDoctor> f2-3 is standard opening theory for the King's Indian Saemisch these days, although in 1949 this was far from the case. There is often opposite-side castling in the KID Saemisch, and f3 supports both white's e4 pawn and an early g4, accelerating the attack on the classic weakness in black's pawn structure - the g6 pawn.|
|Jan-20-06|| ||Calli: Wife: "How did you do today?"
Eugene Aleksandrovich "Honey, I stunk up a KID"
Wife "errrr, you what?"
|Feb-13-06|| ||schnarre: <Calli> Good one!|
|May-03-09|| ||RandomVisitor: 9...Ne5 might be better.
|May-03-09|| ||patzer2: Looks like the pun and GOD contest is producing better puns. The game is not bad either. The move 19. Ng5! sets up an instructive attack on the helpless Black Kingside castled position. |
Shrunken KID indeed! I wonder if Znosko-Borovsky might have included this game in his Book "The Art of the Combination."
|May-03-09|| ||newzild: In response to those folks below seeking comment from a KID player, I will offer my views on this game from my humble position as a mere 2050 elo player.|
Saemisch Kings Indian theory was in its infancy in 1949. These days, most people don't bother playing 6...Nbd7, preferring the immediate 6...c5 instead. White can win a pawn on c5, but experience shows that black gets full compensation due to better development and a strong Bg7.
These days, black also plays e6 followed by ed quite early. Znosko-Borovsky tried to prepare this with Re8, but his maneouvers were too slow and passive.
Instead of 8...Re8, most modern players would prefer 8...a6, preparing to obtain counterplay with queenside expansion, or 8...Ne5, intending 9...e6 and 10...ed. Of course, the Ne5 is in a precarious position, and there are all sorts of complicated lines in which white tries to exploit this. I could ramble on about these lines all day, but it's probably more fun for you just to check out this classic game:
Beliavsky vs Nunn, 1985
|May-03-09|| ||Autoreparaturwerkbau: <@<patzer2>: Looks like the pun and GOD contest is producing better puns.> Umm, i don't want to spoil your enthusiasm, but the same pun was already used before - for that same game.|
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