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Manuel Larios Crespo vs Daniel Salvador Lopez
IX Open (2001), Albacete ESP, rd 4, Sep-01
Scandinavian Defense: Main Lines. Mieses Variation (B01)  ·  0-1
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Aug-21-06  HelaNubo: <syracrophy> I looked around about Philip Stamma (1715-1770?) and found this problem, that seems to be the real "classic" problem with smothered mate:

Philip Stamma, White to play and win (1735).


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Composed in the time when J.S. Bach was alive and working in Leipzig...

Aug-21-06  Fischeristhebest: <HelaNubo>

1.Be4+ Rb7 2.Qb8+ Rxb8 3.Rxa7+ Bxa7 4.Nc7#.

Aug-21-06  gus inn: to <Chessgames.com> the puzzle of the day could be improved in this way:White to move and win(Qxc8) AND black to move and win !( As in the game ). Even on mondays I think this would be fine.
Aug-21-06
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  thegoodanarchist: White is a strong player, 2100+. So his poor play is surprising. It is ever the same in chess. Strong players are made to look bad by much stronger players.
Aug-21-06  En prise: Like everybody else here I got this one rather quickly. I agree that this problem is on par for a Monday. However, my religious beliefs have been shattered by Moiz. I thought Capablanca was God
Aug-21-06  nateinstein: In case anyone's wondering, white also has a mate in 3 in this position were it his move, starting with Qxc8+. Then black plays Qxc8 (otherwise Bd8 Qxd8++) white plays Rxc8+ Bd8 Bd6+ Kg8 Rxd8+ Ne8 Rxe8++
Aug-21-06  dakgootje: The puzzle was obvious of course, so im glad other people posted some slightly harder puzzles ^^
Aug-21-06
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  chancho: <Nakosonorense> Ese tipo de mate donde un caballo le da jaquemate al Rey que esta obstruido por sus propias piezas, se llama: <el mate de coz>.
Aug-21-06  mandy64: One idea about the game: after 21...Nxd4 white is not lost, because of the sharp reply 22. Qf2 !!! and now white is much better
Aug-21-06  eblunt: <Mandy64: 22. Qf2 !!! and now white is much better>

I think after 22 Qf2, 22 .... Bc5 and White is finished

Aug-21-06  mandy64: <eblunt> I meant after Qf2 white is better than Qb7 of course, white will be down with a piece, but will not be checkmated immedietly
Aug-21-06  mstover: I was smother-mated just like this when I was kid playing in a simo against a local master. He thanked me afterward for letting him mate me like that :-)
Aug-21-06  maarnold: Syracrophy, it appears to me that black still gets mated in your "saving" line: 1.Rh4! Na6 2. Ng6 mate, or am I missing something?
Aug-21-06  builttospill: Easy mistake, En prise. Capablanca was Jesus.
Aug-21-06
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  YouRang: Swell smother mate. Easy to see if you are familiar with it - not so easy if it's new to you.

After 21...Nxd4, Lopez probably sat there thinking "Please don't see the smother mate, please don't see the smother mate."; then jumped for joy when Crespo replied with 22. Qb7.

Aug-21-06  zb2cr: I disagree, a mate in 2 with an obvious theme is just right for Monday.

Saw it in under 5 seconds, as soon as I verified that the back-rank mate didn't work due to the White Bishop on f4.

Aug-21-06  Castle In The Sky: TGIM-a nice way to start the week.
Aug-21-06  syracrophy: <HelaNubo>You're right. There was a game that ended with a similar position:

Moresi - Ferrarini, 1972


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White to play.

Black threatens mate on g2, and the passive defense 1.Rg1 is refuted with 1...Qxh2+!! 2.Kxh2 Rh8+ 3.Bh6 Rxh6++. The winning sequence is charming 1.Bd5+ Nb7 2.Qb8+!! Rxb8 3.Rxa7+! Bxa7 4.Nc7++

Aug-21-06
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  kevin86: I deserve a size seveteen dunce cap for this one!! First,I thought it was white to play-so I went with Qc8+,then I MISSED the easy mate via Qb1+ and Nc2#.

I answered Saturday's problem,then I flub this one! OUCH! Not a bogey or double----more like a snowman!

Aug-21-06  Sasquatch777: Why couldn't white just capture the black queen on move 21? After the exchange, wouldn't white be at least a rook ahead?
Aug-21-06
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  crafty: 22. ♖xc2 ♘xc2+ 23. ♔b1 ♘e1+ 24. ♔a1 ♘xf3 25. gxf3 ♘d5   (eval -6.60; depth 14 ply; 150M nodes)
Aug-21-06  zb2cr: <Sasquatch777>, see the analysis by <crafty>. The move numbers are wrong, though--the first move is move 21, etc.
Aug-21-06
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  YouRang: <zb2cr> It looks to me like <craft>'s move numbers are correct. White cannot capture the queen until move 22 (he was not attacking the black queen until he played 21. Rc1).
Aug-21-06
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  dzechiel: <WickedPawn> While the final position is the same as Philidor's Mate, the sequence of moves is different.
Sep-04-06
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  patzer2: It's hard to see at first glance, but White's natural 20. Bxf4?? loses to 20...Rc8! Instead, 20. Qxc6! = seems to hold.

White could have resigned after the followup 21...Nxd4!!, since 22. Rxc2 Nxc2+ 23. Kb1 Ne1+ with a discovered check, winning the queen, is just as decisive as the smothered mate in the game continuation.

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