Jun-15-04
 | | acirce: Embarrassing for Svidler. |
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Jun-24-04
 | | kevin86: Despite a queen for a rook advantage,black is unable to bring home the bacon. |
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| Mar-07-05 | | Stonewaller2: OK chess mavens, you try it; set up the position and, without a database, deliver mate as White at any reasonable time control. I knocked my brains out over this stuff yesterday from dinnertime into the wee small hours and my advice is avoid  vs.  unless you've got the or a clear win. |
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Mar-07-05
 | | tpstar: Definitely an endgame to study, since R&P endgames often lead to Q vs R. The key position is Qh5/Kf6 against Rg7/Kg8 = Burn vs D G Baird, 1889 Move 83 and now the Rook moves away where it can be forked. Note the opposing King must be out of the corner, otherwise the Rook sacrifices itself at f7 or g6 for stalemate. Here I think Black was fine up to 95. Rg1, then 95 ... Qh4+ 96. Kg2 Qf2+ 97. Kh1 Kf3 and now Rook moves along the rank lose to 98 ... Qh4+ 99. Kg1 Qg5+ etc keeping the King on the g & h files (if Kf1, then ... Qg2+ & ... Qe2#) until setting up the fork, while Rook moves along the file lead to checks on the first 2 ranks aiming for the winning fork. Tricky, yet it can be done. |
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| Mar-08-05 | | Stonewaller2: Sorry, <tpstar>, but in your line after 97. ...  f3 98. g3+! and taking the is stalemate.Permission to revise and extend my remarks from yesterday, I meant to say deliver mate as Black of course . . . must've still been a little punchy from the long day's journey into night . . . |
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Mar-08-05
| | tpstar: <Stonewaller2> Arrgh, yes, thanks for the correction. Then if 98. Rg3+! Kf4 White has a super-Rook with 99. Rg4+! etc. Back to the drawing board. ;>) |
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| Mar-08-05 | | Stonewaller2: <Arrgh> You have my sincerest sympahties. There's a lot of that going around when it comes to vs. , not to mention vs.  .Of course after 98. g3+! f2 99. g2 is also drawn. |
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| Mar-08-05 | | aw1988: <tpstar> The drawing board? Is it just me, or are you displaying your punderful wit again? |
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Mar-08-05
| | tpstar: OK, 95. Rg1 reaches this position Taimanov vs G Barcza, 1967 Move 88 where Black wins with 95 ... Qh4+ 96. Kg2 Qd4! and now (1) 97. Rb1 Qe4+ (2) 97. Rc1 Qg4+ 98. Kh1 Qh5+ & 99 ... Qg5+ (3) 97. Rh1 Qg4+ 98. Kh2 Kf2 (4) 97. Kh2 Kf2 98. Rg2+ Kf1 (4a) 99. Kh1 Qe4 (4b) 99. Kh3 Qh8+ 100. Kg3 Qg7+ (4c) 99. Rg3 Qh4+ 100. Rh3 Qf2+ 101. Kh1 Qg2# (4d) other Rook moves = 99 ... Qh4#. Ta Da! <aw1988> It is just you. |
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| Oct-30-05 | | you vs yourself: After 54.Kg3, can anyone check if 54...h1=Q gives a direct victory for Svilder? The position after 55.RxQ 55...f4+ would be: 
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| Nov-05-05 | | Professeur Y: <you vs yourself> you mean 64. Kf3, and not 54.Kf3. It's hard to tell if there's a win; if so it is not obvious. After 56.kh4, what does black do to promote? Very difficult to analyze, as I feel a bit lazy and don't own Fritz. This, however, doesn't require Fritz: Svidler missed 85... Qc5+ picking up the rook. |
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| Dec-14-05 | | gadfly: 85. ...Qc5+ is a winning move for black. Unbelievable that Svidler and Gelfand both missed it. Simply pathetic. |
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Dec-14-05
 | | KingG: That's FIDE time controls for you. |
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| Dec-14-05 | | gadfly: It is hard to miss such a move even in a bullet game. The FIDE time controls cannot serve as an excuse here, although I admit I am not their biggest fan. |
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Nov-18-06
 | | ahmadov: I guess Svidler could convert this into a win if this happened nowadays. After all, this happened when he was under 2700 (I believe that this does matter). |
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Jun-25-07
 | | Eggman: Aside from 85...c5+ as pointed out by <gadfly>, one of the better known wins missed (twice) by Svidler was at move 95, when instead of 95...f4+ Black could have played 95...h4+ 96.g2 d4! arriving at this zugzwang position:
click for larger viewHere Rook moves are out (97.h1 g4+ 98.h2 f2 and mates; 97.f1 g4+; 98.c1 g7+ 99.h3 h6+, etc.), so what must follow is: 97.h2 (97.h1 is basically the same, 97...f2 98.g2+ f1) f2 ( mate) 98.g2+ f1 (diagram) 
click for larger viewNow White can resign (even against Svidler ;) since there is only 99.a2 h4# or 99.h1 e4 or 99.h3 h8+ 100.g3 g7+ or 99.g3 e5 100.h1 (100.h3 h5#) h8+ 101.h3 xh3#. There are, in certain variations, yet other ways for Black to win, but these are redundant. Had Svidler known (or recalled) this position, then he could have won later in the game as well, since 110...e4! would have produced the first diagram above, just rotated. |
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| Apr-10-08 | | positionalgenius: How is this one of Gelfands notable games? Svidler couldn't convert an ending that all top GMs should be able to win. |
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| Apr-11-08 | | whatthefat: <positionalgenius: How is this one of Gelfands notable games? Svidler couldn't convert an ending that all top GMs should be able to win.> It's for precisely that reason that it's ended up in a enough game collections to render this a notable game. I agree it's rather silly if someone's looking for one of Gelfand's best games though. |
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May-13-08
 | | numbersguy70: Semantics, but by the 50 move rule, it should have been a draw a move earlier. Last piece was taken on move 78, and no pawns left, so the 50th move without a piece taken or pawn pushed was 128. |
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| May-14-08 | | sfairat: 86.Qc5+ wins the rook. And this guy is really a GM? Wow. |
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| Jul-23-08 | | GeauxCool: <"...after 78.Rxf4
Instead of resigning, as most players would have done, Boris Gelfand simply challenged his opponent to prove that he could do it. Peter Svidler went to work against the almost flawless defence put up by White. Only on move 85 Boris allowed a deadly fork, which Peter did not see!"> http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...
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Dec-24-08
 | | notyetagm: 85 ... ?
click for larger view85 ... g1-g7??
click for larger view<sfairat: 85.Qc5+ wins the rook. And this guy is really a GM? Wow.> <gadfly: 85. ...Qc5+ is a winning move for black. Unbelievable that Svidler and Gelfand both missed it. Simply pathetic.> (VAR)
85 ... g1-c5+! <fork>
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| Feb-20-09 | | WhiteRook48: Gelfand was now the one to swindle into a draw |
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| Mar-07-09 | | WhiteRook48: and Svidler missed the fork? |
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| Jun-06-09 | | WhiteRook48: 85 Kh3 avoids the fork |
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