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Edelman vs Isaak Mazel
"gg" (game of the day Oct-13-09)
Minsk 1928  ·  Italian Game: Two Knights Defense. Ponziani-Steinitz Gambit (C57)  ·  0-1


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Oct-13-09   Samagonka: I need to see this game over and over again to establish whether white is a big patzer or whether black was just lucky to win the game.
Oct-13-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  tpstar: I tried to enter "gg" and "GG" in the Pun Contest for a game by Gioachino Greco but both were rejected. Clearly the Administrators have a decisive advantage over us in this department. :-)

This one originally came around as "G-G-G-G-Good Game" (or something like that) referring to the five g Pawns, then I entered "Mazel Tov" instead.

gg

Oct-13-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  hedgeh0g: Very strange g-file arrangement. Very fun game!
Oct-13-09   TheTamale: White succeeded in his strategy of giving Black doubled pawns. Unfortunately, Black was able to give White tripled pawns and thus eke out a victory after a tremendous battle. The tide of this game reminded me of a pro wrestling match.
Oct-13-09   PierreTheLion: This almost looks like a composition! I usually never like minis as GOTD but this was a brilliant exception!
Oct-13-09   psmith: According to Jan Pinski, The Two Knights' Defense, 4...Nxe4 should be met with 5. Bxf7+ Ke7 6. d4! with advantage. Analysis with Fritz 5.32 seems to confirm this.
Oct-13-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Thrajin: Much better pun that the one I would have suggested: "g-g-g-g G-UNIT!"
Oct-13-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  RandomVisitor: 3 minutes per move:

Edelman - Isaak Mazel
[C57]

Minsk Minsk, 1928

[Rybka 3 ]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 last book move

4...Nxe4 1.09/16
5.Bxf7+ 1.11/17 Ke7 1.11/16
6.Nxe4 0.35/15
[Rybka 3 : 6.d4 h6 7.Nxe4 Kxf7 8.d5 Nd4 9.Be3 c6 10.0-0 Nf5 11.Nbc3 Kg8 12.Qd3 d6 13.Rae1 cxd5 14.Nxd5 Be6 1.11/16 ]

6...Kxf7 0.62/14
7.d3 -0.36/17
[Rybka 3 : 7.Qf3+ Kg6 8.Qg3+ Kf7 9.Ng5+ Ke8 10.Nxh7 Kf7 11.Qf3+ Kg8 12.Qxf8+ Qxf8 13.Nxf8 Kxf8 14.d3 b6 15.Be3 Bb7 16.f3 d5 0.62/14 ]

7...d5 -0.24/15
8.Ng5+ -0.49/18
[Rybka 3 : 8.Ng3 Be7 9.Nc3 Be6= -0.24/15 ]

8...Ke8 0.42/16
[Rybka 3 : 8...Kg8 9.0-0 h6 10.Nf3 Qf6 11.Nc3 Be6 12.Be3 Rd8 13.h3 Kh7 14.Nb5 -0.49/18 ]

9.Qh5+ -0.37/19
[Rybka 3 : 9.0-0 Be7 10.Nc3 Bf5 11.Qf3 g6 12.Qg3 h6 13.Nf3 Bf6 14.Bd2 Kf7 15.Rae1 Qd7 16.Nh4 Nb4 17.Rc1 c6 0.42/16 ]

9...g6 -0.37/17
10.Qf3 -0.66/16
[Rybka 3 : 10.Qe2 Qf6 11.c3 h6 12.Nf3 Kf7 13.0-0 Bf5 14.h3 Bd6 15.Nbd2 Kg7 16.Nh2 Rhf8 17.Ng4 Bxg4 18.Qxg4 Rae8 19.Qf3 Qxf3 20.Nxf3 e4 21.dxe4 dxe4 22.Nh2 -0.37/17 ]

10...Qd7 0.46/15
[Rybka 3 : 10...Bf5 11.Qe3 h6 12.Nf3 Qf6 13.Nbd2 Kf7 14.0-0 Kg7 15.c3 b6 16.Rb1 Bc5 17.Qe2 a5 -0.66/16 ]

11.0-0 -0.81/17
[Rybka 3 : 11.Nc3 Nd4 12.Qxd5 Qg7 13.Kd1 c6 14.Qe4 Bf5 15.Qe3 Kd7 16.Re1 h6 17.Nge4 Kc7 18.Nd2 Re8 19.Nce4 Kb8 0.46/15 ]

11...Nd4 0.27/18
[Rybka 3 : 11...h6 12.Nh3 g5 13.Qe2 Qf7 14.f4 Bxh3 15.gxh3 Bc5+ 16.Kg2 gxf4 17.Bxf4 Qe6 18.Nc3 Kd7 19.Bg3 Raf8 20.Qg4 Rhg8 21.Qxe6+ Kxe6 22.Rxf8 Rxf8 23.Re1 h5 24.Na4 Be7 -0.81/17 ]

12.Qd1 0.07/15 Qg4= 0.21/15
[Rybka 3 : 12...h6 13.Nf3 Nxf3 0.07/15 ]

13.Qd2?? -2.92/19
<[Rybka 3 : 13.f3 Qh5 14.Re1 Bg7 15.Bf4 Nc6 16.c4 Kf8 17.Be3 h6 18.cxd5 hxg5 19.dxc6 Qxh2+ 20.Kf1 bxc6 21.Nd2 Qh1+ 22.Bg1 Rh2 23.Re2 g4 24.Qc2= 0.21/15 ]>

13...h6 -2.92/16
14.f3 -2.92/17 Bc5 -2.52/17
15.fxg4? -#3/3
[Rybka 3 : 15.Kh1 Qxg5 16.Qf2 Ne6 17.Bxg5 Bxf2 18.Bf6 Rf8 19.Bxe5 Bd4 20.Re1 Kf7 21.Nd2 b6 22.Nb3 Bxe5 23.Rxe5 Bb7 24.g3 Rae8 25.Rae1 c5 26.Kg2 -2.52/17 ]

15...Ne2+ -#3/3
16.Kh1 -#2/3 Ng3+ -#2/3
17.hxg3 -#1/3 hxg5# 0.00/0
0-1

Oct-13-09   CeeFoR: gg no re
Oct-13-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  YouRang: A good chess player would play <13...h6> to attack the knight at g5, because that knight can't move (it's the only thing preventing the queen-winning fork, ...Nf3+).

A great chess player looks deeper and sees the consequences of taking the knight, opening the rook file with mating possibilities if g3 is weakened.

The difference between the two is worth a spectacular queen-sac mating combination. :-)

Oct-13-09   NARC: I have to remember this gambit.
Oct-13-09   Capthahn86: Are you kidding me? A much better pun would have been "Mazel Tov!"
Oct-13-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  playground player: If I were White, I would've thought I was winning.
Oct-13-09   lzromeu: Forced mate.
The 15th move could be a great puzzle
Oct-13-09   WhiteRook48: the real White probably did think he was winning
Oct-13-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  FSR: Cool game! I don't recall ever seeing it before, and the mating combination is very unusual. Gotta love that arrangement of pawns on the g-file, too.
Oct-13-09   SamAtoms1980: Hmmm.... "gg" indeed, but it should be more like "ggggg", shouldn't it?

Now I'm going to have to find a game where a King gets driven into the heart of the opposing camp, and submit it with "OMGLOLBBQ".

Oct-13-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  TheaN: <SamAtoms1980: Now I'm going to have to find a game where a King gets driven into the heart of the opposing camp, and submit it with "OMGLOLBBQ".>

This seriously made me laugh out loud... or should I say lol in this case xD?

Very weird game, weird sac, weird ending position. Good GOTD :).

Oct-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: The early bird is often...Thanksgiving Dinner
Oct-14-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  fm avari viraf: Of course, White didn't handle the opening so well & ultimately landed himself in miserable state. Black playing imaginatively won with a pretty combination pleasing to all the afficionados.
Oct-24-09   japz12: hey guys! will somebody please explain to me why not Nxf7? I think that will be a better line for white. any genius analysis?
Oct-24-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  pawn to QB4: Hi japz - I must confess to having played this line once, casual game and alcohol was involved, if that's any excuse. My opponent did play 5.Nxf7. I grovelled out of it with 5...Qf6 with the crude threat of mate; he castled; then 6...Nd6 and rather than play 7.Nxh8 Nxc4 and I should eventually win that knight on h8, he played 7.Nxd6+ Bxd6 and I was doing surprisingly well.
Oct-24-09   AnalyzeThis: After 5. Nxf7 the best move for black is Qh4 with advantage to black. If 6. g3 then Nxg3 7. fxg3 Qe4+ 8. Qe2 Qxh1+. White does better with 6. 0-0 but then either 6....Bc5 or 6....Nxf2 are promising for black.
Oct-24-09   japz12: thanks guys. i think i might need to look at it again. <AnalyzeThis> ur analyisis is good!
Nov-20-09   JRG: haha love it
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