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Toldsepp vs Paul Keres
corr (1934)
Budapest Defense: Rubinstein Variation (A52)  ·  0-1
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Aug-23-16
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  Once: <Al2009> 10...Qxb2 wins a piece - either the rook on a1 or the bishop on d3. 10...Nxf2 wins a pawn plus it has the positional advantage of keeping the white king in the centre.

That's why Fritzie evaluated 10...Qxb2 as over 3 (the value of a minor piece) and 10...Nxf2 as 1 plus loose change. The 1 is for the pawn, the loose change is for the positional advantage.

Aug-23-16  Jacob Sasportas: Easier than yesterday - and incredible that this could happen in a correspondence game!
Aug-23-16  scormus: Instructive puzzle. < 10 ... Nxd3 11 Qxd3 Qxb2> looks tempting, but as so often, the b-pawn is poison. 12 O-O! Qxa1 13 Nc3 Qb2 and B had wasted a lot of tempi. W counteracts 14 Qe4+ Kf8 or Ne5 and W has good compensation for the exchange. Rybka makes it roughly equal but I prefer W's position.
Aug-23-16  rgr459: 10... Qxb2 is a very hostile move. Got this one.
Aug-23-16
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  Willber G: <scormus: Instructive puzzle. < 10 ... Nxd3 11 Qxd3 Qxb2> looks tempting, but as so often, the b-pawn is poison. 12 O-O! Qxa1 13 Nc3 Qb2 and B had wasted a lot of tempi. W counteracts 14 Qe4+ Kf8 or Ne5 and W has good compensation for the exchange.>

Yep, my previous post missed 14. Qe4+ (although black is a rook up, not the exchange).

Aug-23-16
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  Dionysius1: So how does White not lose the exchange after 10...Nxf2? If he moves the Rh1 he loses the Bd3
Aug-23-16
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  patzer2: After playing over today's Tuesday puzzle Budapest gambit game, I thought of George Ezra's hit song Budapest at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHr....

Thinking of the opening lyrics to <Budapest>, I thought why not add it back to my opening repertoire?:

<My house in Budapest
My hidden treasure chest,
Golden grand piano
My beautiful Castillo...

Give me one good reason
Why I should never make a change
And baby if you hold me
Then all of this will go away>

My young 7-year-old grandson, who placed third in the rated section (his 10-year-old brother placed third in the unrated section) of a scholastic tournament in McKinny Texas this month and gained over 120 regular rating points by defeating higher rated players, loves gambits. So I'm sure he'll enjoy this short Budapest Gambit correspondence game.

P.S.: I missed today's Tuesday puzzle by getting too greedy and going for the win of a Rook with 10... Nxd3+ 11. Qxd3 Qxb2 12. O-O Qxa1 (diagram below):


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The problem with my geedy line is that after 13. Nc3 Qb2 14. Qe4+ = to White gets dangerous counter play and near level chances

Much better, as <Once> observes, is simply winning a piece with Kere's continuation 10...Qxb2 as the Knight fork after 11. Qxb2 Nxd3+ 12. Ke2 Nxb2 (-4.33 @ 18 depth, Deep Fritz 15) leaves Black a piece and a pawn ahead. In short, with the game continuation 10...Qxb2, Black's win is simple and uncomplicated.

Aug-23-16
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  patzer2: Speaking of the Budapest, there's a good article about 23-year-old Englishman George Ezra, who wrote and sang the hit song <Budapest>, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg....

According to the article, Ezra's unique sound was influenced by the American folk singers Bob Dylan and Woodie Guthrie. He also explored the Blue's influence on Dylan by the Blues artists Lead Belly ( see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_...) and Howlin' Wolf a.k.a. Chester Arthur Burnett (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howli...).

Aug-23-16
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  Jonathan Sarfati: 5... ♗c5 is a bad move, but trappy. The obvious 8. ♘c3 is refuted by 8... ♘xf2! 9. ♔xf2 ♕xf4, as in J Wilson vs N Zykina, 2008. But 8. ♕d2 defends both b2 and f2, without being open to hits with ... ♗f5 or ... ♘b4, as in J Dobias vs F Zita, 1933
Aug-23-16
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  varishnakov: <Dionysius1>

He doesn't lose the exchange with 11.Kxf2.

Aug-23-16  mel gibson: White played a poor opening.

move 7
should have been
7 Nc3 instead of
7 pxf6

White left himself wide open for attack.
Good chess opening advice: - get your pieces out
on to the main board & onto good squares.

Aug-23-16
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  Marmot PFL: 9 Bd3? is an incredible move to see in a postal game. After the obvious 9...Nb4 10 Qd2 even if black misses 10...Qxb2, 10...Nxf2 should also win easily.
Aug-23-16
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  kevin86: I reversed the last two moves. Doesn't black win the rook that way?
Aug-23-16
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  varishnakov: <kevin86>

9...Qxb2 loses the queen.

Aug-23-16
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  Willber G: <varishnakov: <kevin86>

9...Qxb2 loses the queen.>

But 10...Qxb2 doesn't.

Aug-23-16
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  Willber G: <kevin86: I reversed the last two moves. Doesn't black win the rook that way?>

It does but the earlier post by <scormus> reveals good compensation.

Aug-23-16  BOSTER: Playing 9.Bd3 white sent the message:
I decided to save many staps, this is why I played 9.Bd3.
Aug-23-16
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  Dionysius1: Thanks <Varishnakov>. Weird blind spot - I'm prone to them. Rush of blood to the head and suddenly a won game isn't any more. It used to happen when I was playing over the board for teams. If I was the last one playing and everyone was watching that's the kind of mistake I would make.
Aug-23-16
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Aug-23-16
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Aug-23-16  MaczynskiPratten: This week's theme looks as if it will be "finding the RIGHT simple win from a lot of apparent possibilities". Like yesterday, I had to look carefully at other possibilities like Nxf2 and Nxd3+ before finally spotting Qxb2 as the others didn't look decisive enough. Would I have seen it if I hadn't known it was a Tuesday puzzle? - not 100% sure. Would I have seen it in a game? - probably, as in the runup you are thinking of the various tactical possibilities.
Aug-23-16
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  YouRang: <Marmot PFL: 9 Bd3? is an incredible move to see in a postal game.>

Yep, at white's 9th move:


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White has Qe4+ as a nice option, and the simple 9.Nc3 develops his N with good squares at d5 and e4 in view.

Yes, black can attack the Q with 9...Nb4, but then white has 10.Qe4+ Qe6 11.Qxe6 Bxe6 12.Rc1 (remove threat of Nc2+); and black has lost a pawn with nothing to show for it. Black's knights can be easily kicked with a3 and h3.

But instead, white played the double-bad <9.Bd3?>

One badness is that it blocks the queen's diagonal, and the other badness is that Bd3 becomes a target at d3 instead of a defender of d3.

Now <9...Nb4> is big trouble


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The option to play Qe4+ is blocked, and the queen has to move while being burdened with the defense of both Pb2 and Bd3.

She cannot escape with 10.Ba4+ due to ...Bd7, but anything else loses to ...Qxb2, as the puzzle solution demonstrates.

Aug-23-16
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  gawain: I got this one. Because of yesterday's puzzle, I was thinking right away about ways to force (or lure) the white queen away from her central square. I happened upon 10...Qxb2 which has happy consequences for Black.
Aug-24-16  Sally Simpson: Hi,


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I went for 10..Nxf2. with a quick check to see to ensure White no had trick on the c5 Bishop.

10...Nxf2 11.Kxf2 Qxf4.


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12.Qxb4 bagging a piece and hitting the piece that pins the e3 pawn but 12...Qx6+ 13.Kg3 Qf7+ 14.Kf4 0-0+ end of analysis - must win.

I'm sorry but I simply did not look at or even consider any Qxb2 lines. I'm glad I never.

I'm not joining you lot sleeping in the streets because that is what happens to people who take Queen's Knight pawn with the Queen. (Paul Keres...how could you?)

In passing I have to mention Paul Keres bio here is a total disgrace.

A handful of lines eked out via and cut and paste. No mention of his funeral (it was a state funeral, thousands turned out), his statues, his image on the Estonian currency, ships and streets being named after him...

Yet players like Giri gets bucket loads of fawning gush.

Where was I....?

Some expressed surprise that Paul played correspondence chess and absolute horror at White's 9.Bd3 being played in correspondence game.

Keres played hundreds of correspondence games honing his skill for OTB play.

And if you think a move like 9.Bd3 (clearly designed to stop Black castling) is unbelievable in C.C. play then grab yourself a copy of 'Startling Correspondence Chess Miniatures' by Tim Harding and read the section titled. 'The Black Museum'.

Some of the blunders are so bad Tim left out the names of the players.

That's a trend I'm not fond of, leaving out names because they play a blunder.

I tore into this guy David Lemoir for his articles about Traps in Chess because he left out the names.

http://www.chessedinburgh.co.uk/cha...

He had the cheek to title the first one 'Publish and be Damned' and then he left out the names of the blunderer's !!

A good Corner that one. It resulted in more than just a few blazing comments telling me I should show more respect. (but the computer joke was good!).

I don't care about blazing comments, blaze away. They can all join the QNP grabbers and sleep in the streets.

Aug-24-16
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  patzer2: Looking for White improvements, I like <mel gibson>'s 7. Nc3 and <Jonathan Sarfati>'s 8. Qd2 . However, neither White's seventh or eighth moves caused the loss of this game.

The decisive blunder as <Marmot PFL> observes was 9. Bd3??, allowing 9...Nb4 (-3.87 @ 28 depth, Komodo 9.43).

Instead, 9. Nc3 Bf5 10. Qd2 (0.98 @ 26 depth, Komdo 9.2) maintains a White advantage.

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