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Francesco di Castellvi vs Narciso Vinyoles
Valencia (Spain) 1475  ·  Scandinavian Defense: Ilundain Variation (B01)  ·  1-0


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Aug-25-08   Bobsterman3000: Korchnoi has a + record against both of these guys...
Oct-06-08
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  just a kid: This is the sort of a game like somebody rated 1000 or so plays a complete beginner.
Nov-29-08   Salaskan: A horrible game by today's standards. White would have won easily with 6. Ne5 Bd6 (6... Bxd1 7. Bxf7# Légal's mate) (6... e6 7. Nxg4) 7. Bxe6 fxe6 8. Qh5+ g6 9. Nxg6
Dec-04-08   WhiteRook48: So why isn't Bf4 in the Sacrifice Explorer?
Dec-05-08   I Like Fish: because of...
20 Qxd7+
...
Dec-17-08   WhiteRook48: Strange... I do not like 3...Qd8 after Nc3, it just retreats the only piece Black has in play. 3...Qa5 is preferred, and possibly even 3...Qe6+!? is better.
Dec-22-08   WhiteRook48: <ravel5184> Oh yeah? Check out the peruvian immortal. How did that work out for Black? Ok, maybe he lost just because he was NN...
Dec-23-08   WhiteRook48: 19...Bxf4???? loses right away
Jan-08-09   WhiteRook48: 19...Qe6+ was better.
Feb-25-09   Senor Gusanos: This game is a fabrication, although the contestants were real people. The game is set to the words of a poem,'Scachs d'Amor' the verses add up to 64. The correct date should be nearer the turn of the century, but no later than 6th Nov, 1506 when Castellvi died.
Mar-14-09   WhiteRook48: what kind of patzer was Vinyoles?
Mar-17-09   dwavechess: 11/21 concur with rybka 3 at 3 min. per move with rybka.abk book for castellvi ; 7/20 for vinyoles
Apr-03-09   Dredge Rivers: Wow! You mean they actually HAD chess way back then?

BTW, what was Rock Paper Scissors like before paper and scissors were invented? :)

May-02-09   WhiteRook48: 5...Bg4
May-20-09
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  SirChrislov: This game may be the oldest under the new rules, when casteling, pawn's two leap forward, en passant, and the Queen's mighty power were given to the game. but the oldest recorded chess game with the original rules as the Kings and Queens knew it was played between two Arabian Princes and dates back to... board your time travel machine, we're going to... the 10th Century! http://www.chess-poster.com/english...
May-20-09
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  blacksburg: does this make the Scandinavian Defense the oldest defense in chess?
May-21-09
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  SirChrislov: As old as bloody dirt & rocks. the Guioco Pianno, King's Gambit, and King's Bishop opening also heavily eing played in those days. the Lopez came into fashion later; in the times of its creator Spanish Priest Ruy Lopez De Segura.
May-21-09   MaxxLange: Didn't they also let the King go to KR1 on castling?
May-26-09   WhiteRook48: 5...Bg4? both players missed 6 Bxf7+!!
Jul-13-09   jsheedy: Wow, I'd forgotten that I recorded this game. I must be getting old. -Francesco
Jul-17-09
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  Knight13: It seems that a lot of kibitizers think they're so cool and educated that they can point out simple tactics like 6. Bxf7+ and missing Ne5.

Every single page is filled with those things. It really gets old!

Jul-22-09
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  SirChrislov: This game is based on a poem, "Scachs d' amor"(Chess of Love) in the poem, Mars(Ares, god of war) tries to obtain the love of Venus(Aphrodite, goddess of love). I could only find it in original Catalan, please let me know if you find the english translation. http://ca.wikisource.org/wiki/Scach...
Aug-24-09   tagbay: it seems that they cant castle at that time !
Oct-07-09   kingsindian2006: <bobsterman3000> ..lol.. classic comment
Oct-07-09   kingsindian2006: they didnt have resign option either back then .....lol
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