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|Apr-04-04|| ||shr0pshire: Let me see if I can improve upon Garry's game.
11. gxf3. I think Garry makes this move in order to save tempo for the game, however I think that this costs him in the long run, by permanently weakening his kingside.
15. Bd2, I am not sure if this is better the right move at that time than trying to trade the queens. I think that garry should have been putting in more resources in the kingside, and although I think that development at this point is crucial, I don't think at this move it flatters him.
20. e4, I don't think is the correct move, I would think a potentially better move is to play Rg1 and to kick around the queen to gain a bit of position, and tempo at the same time. With the way garry plays it, he gains tempo, but his pawns are still doubled, and I think are weaker than they were before.
25. Qb3. I think that Bxd5 is more effective at this point. It breakes up black's king side pawn. In my opinion it makes going into the endgame much more managable.
I don't think that I have any other moves that I object to, but Cotrina plays a superb game!
|Apr-04-04|| ||Benjamin Lau: 11. gxf3!? may have been an attempt to utilize the open g file against the black king, but it looks like Cotrina managed to exploit it first. Kasparov may have underestimated Cotrina due to his lack of fame since Cotrina only plays in local tournaments according to jaime gallegos. In any case, this is a superb countergambit that I look forward to using myself in real play. I am sure any material deficit the pawn represents will be outweighted by black's good development and extra control over e4 (since cxb5 removes the c pawn attacking black's d pawn.) |
|Apr-04-04|| ||TheOddFella: 12. Qf3? gives back the gambit pawn after 12. .. cxd4 13. exd4 Nc2 |
|Apr-04-04|| ||Jim Bartle: Let's not forget this one game in a 40-board simul, and K was taking about five seconds at each board for each move... |
|Apr-04-04|| ||Benjamin Lau: theoddfella, was keeping the pawn really worth compromising king shelter? I wouldn't mark 12. Qxf3 as an error.|
I wonder about 28. f5?! though, the move doesn't seem strategically appropriate, although there may be a tactical reason I am missing.
|Apr-04-04|| ||Vischer: this doesn't seem to be a bad opening, you can play it a lot like the Benko Gambit. |
|Apr-04-04|| ||Jim Bartle: Just a request out of the blue. The day after the simul this game was played in, Kasparov played a clock simul vs. the six best Peruvian players (except Granda, who was out of the country). He beat Juan Carlos Oblitas with a brutal series of sacrifices starting at about move 19. Does anybody have the score of that game?|
(Kasparov defeated Urday, Oblitas and two I can't remember; drew with Reyes and Muņoz.)
|Apr-05-04|| ||WMD: >>He beat Juan Carlos Oblitas with a brutal series of sacrifices starting at about move 19. Does anybody have the score of that game?<<|
I think Mr. Oblitas would.
|Apr-05-04|| ||jaime gallegos: It was Carlomagno Oblitas ! Juan Carlos Oblitas is another peruvian, who was an excellent soccer player ! hehehe |
|Apr-05-04|| ||Lawrence: All the engines plomp for 12.gxf3 though Crafty thinks White is over a pawn up whereas Junior says that Black has a tiny advantage.|
Garry missed some strong moves, not surprising when he has 5 sec. at each board: 25.Qb3 (f5!) 27.a5 (b5!) 33.b6 (Rc8+!) 34.Bc3 (h3!!) but he was leading all the way until 36.Rcc1? (Qe3 or Qd1). (Junior 8)
<Ben>, 28.f5 eval +2.23, 28.b5! +3.07
|Apr-05-04|| ||Jim Bartle: Oops. Got me there. Yes, this was Carlomagno, not Juan Carlos, Oblitas. JC was a fine player in the 70s and 80s and later coach of the national team.|
And yes, I do think Carlomagno Oblitas remembers that game. It might have been worse than it looks. Kasparov started his brutal combination, which he had obviously seen through to the end, then left Oblitas sitting looking at the lost position for about an hour while he made moves in the other five games.
|Apr-07-04|| ||Eatmysacs: I have a problem with 8. Bd3 and 10. Qe2. Without the plan to build the queen up to the c file, the move isn't so great. Na6 prohibits Qc2, so I think 8. Be2 would have given Kasparov better options. |
Also consider 10. e4 cxd4 11. Nxd4 d6 12. Re1 Nc5 13. Bc2 Qb6, and white has the advantage.
Those who question 12. gxf3 should realize it is the only option. 12. Qxf3 Nc2 13. Rb1 cxd4, and black takes the advantage.
Anyone have any ideas on 19...Qf6? I think it looks like a better response than 19...f5.
25. Qb3 loses some potential. 25. f5 Nxb4 26. fxg6 hxg6 27. Bxb4 Rbxb4 28. Bxg6 Qe7 29. axb4 Rxa2 and white should go on to win.
28. f5 seems out of place only because Kasparov stop going with his plan of empowering his two isolated pawns. 28. b5 Rab7 29. b6, and black has to sacrifice. 29...Nxb6 30. Bxb7 Qxb7+ 31. f3, white's advantage.
Anyone else think 34. h3 is better than 34. Bc3?
Kasparov resigns to a mate in 7. 38. Rg1 fxe3 39. Rg3 Rxg3 40. fxg3 Qh3 41. Kg1 Rf8 42. b7 e2 43. b8=Q Qf1+ 44. Rxf1 exf1=Q#
Not that I meant to pick on Kasparov...hehe. I really enjoy playing the Kurjatko Gambit.
|Apr-07-04|| ||Benjamin Lau: Lawrence, glad to know that Fritz agrees with me for once. ;) 28. f5?! was inappropriate because it opened up another side of the board for no reason. Kasparov had an easy win on the queen side, there was no point to suddenly open up the king side as well. That Kasparov still apparently retained an advantage of over +2, at least in Fritz's "eyes," shows what a good position he had, his last moves got too sloppy though and it cost him the game. |
|Apr-24-05|| ||TheAlchemist: Once me and my friend were desperately trying to "invent" a new opening. Out of the blue we found 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 b5. I was sorry to find later from an internet ECO source it was already called "Pyrenees gambit", but we nevertheless liked it and we called it "The Cowboy Indian Defence", to underline that it's sort of crazy. But I still think black gets nice play with Bb7, e6, d5, c5, Nbd7 etc. developing scheme.|
|Feb-20-06|| ||Richard Taylor: jaime gallegos: When Garry Kasparov came to Lima that year he was undoubtedly the best chess player ... <Cotrina was our local hero that time but he just plays on local tournaments ... ( other good players like GM Urday or MI Reyes played the Olympiads but their personal efforts were not enough to develop chess as an important sport here in Peru )> Is he one of these "hidden" geniuses!! Deep in Peru -lol - good on you and Cotrina. Great game by him.|
|Feb-20-06|| ||Jim Bartle: I had three friends who played in the same simul. Every single one claimed he had a better if not winning position, then blew it. Two lost, one drew. You should have heard the crying and moaning: coulda, woulda, shoulda.|
|Feb-25-06|| ||menacing knights: i have never witnessed such a game in my life!|
|May-11-06|| ||Chess Pusher: Hi everyone I am a new member and I am in the process of finding out what going on. So far i like what i see. Give me a few days and i will be up and running.|
|Jun-23-06|| ||weisyschwarz: Funny how an oddball opening can throw off the calculations of a world champion and a strong computer program.|
|Jun-23-06|| ||mack: < Hi everyone I am a new member and I am in the process of finding out what going on. So far i like what i see. Give me a few days and i will be up and running.>|
Hope nobody was holding their breath.
|Jan-15-09|| ||fred lennox: the logic behind this opening is of course to weaken whites central control after 3. cxb5. this helps gives blacks knight an outpost on d5. The moves of the queen knight is interesting. 11.Bxf3 gives black better control of d5 because of Nf3-e5 if...d6 then Nd3-f4 attacking d5. Bk N on d5 undermines whites good bishop.|
|Feb-02-09|| ||WhiteRook48: unusual gambit by 2...b5|
|Jul-08-09|| ||ColonelFearguson: This gambit is dubious, because Black doesn't get a strong pressure on the queenside, as in the Benko Gambit, and his control of d5 and e4 squares in the opening isn't enough to compensate for a pawn loss. In both Queen's Indian and Nimzo-Indian defences Black can fight succesfully for these squares, but without investing any material.
Kasparov played well and outplayed his opponent, but unnecessarily opened the kingside with 28.f5 and exchanged his important light-square bishop. I agree with Benjamin Lau's comment.|
|Oct-15-10|| ||jusmail: The Kasparov - Oblitas game is here:
Kasparov vs C Oblitas, 1993
|Feb-21-11|| ||A.G. Argent: <mack><Hope nobody was holding their breath.> Exactly.|
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