| May-23-05 | | Everett: *SIGH* If Ivanchuk only had the nerves of consistency... |
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May-23-05
 | | keypusher: Looks like a contender for ughaibu's fun with chucky collection. Although this can't have been much fun for Jobava. |
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| May-23-05 | | ughaibu: Thanks. I'll add it. |
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| May-23-05 | | acirce: chessbase.com has 15 games with the position after 8.Nc3. The results from White's side, and that is not including this game: +14 =1 -0
LOL. But you really don't need the stats to wonder what Jobava was thinking in the opening. It seems essentially lost after 13.g4 already. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | notyetagm: The amazing thing about this game is that it contains so little tactics. Black (Jobava) is just so totally outplayed positionally that tactics really aren't called for. Amazing to see a 2637-rated GM lose so easily. The Tromp is just not Jobava's thing. A few days later, in the same tournament, he lost to Bruzon in 19 moves. So that is <2 Trompowskys, 2 losses, a combined 44 moves for Jobava>. Impossible to imagine Jobava doing so poorly in his other Black defenses. |
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| Jun-03-05 | | sourcerer: stupidity on board i should say |
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| Jun-03-05 | | ranchogrande: when <Ivanchuk> plays his best it often goes like this"you can run , but you cannot hide" .:)
<notyetagm> as fra as I see its White who play The Tromp !? |
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| Jun-03-05 | | Shams: only two games from the 16 acirce mentions got as far as 9...Nc6. This game, and Speelman - Wang Yaoyao 1997, which is a great attacking game. I just uploaded to the db, but here is the pgn if you're interested. [Event "Lee Cup 4th"]
[Site "Beijing"]
[Date "1997.08.23"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Speelman,Jonathan S"]
[Black "Wang Yaoyao"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "A45"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 Ne4 3.Bf4 d5 4.e3 c5 5.Bd3 Nc6 6.Bxe4 dxe4 7.d5 Nb4 8.Nc3 e6
9.d6 Nc6 10.Nxe4 f5 11.Bg5 Qb6 12.Nf6+ Kf7 13.Nxh7 Rxh7 14.d7 Be7 15.Nf3 Qxb2 16.0-0 Qb6
17.dxc8=Q Rxc8 18.Rb1 Qa5 19.Rxb7 Rc7 20.Qb1 Bd6 21.Rd1 Be5 22.Nxe5+ Nxe5 23.Bf4 1-0 |
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| Jun-10-05 | | Whitehat1963: An excellent use of the Opening of the Day. |
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| Jun-14-05 | | Shams: the game I mentioned is up now:
Speelman vs Wang Yaoyao, 1997 |
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| Feb-01-11 | | M.D. Wilson: Breaking Baad. |
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| Feb-02-11 | | acme: What if 19. ...Bxd6? |
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Feb-02-11
 | | Sastre: 19...Bxd6 20.O-O-O Qxc7 21.Rxd6 Kf8 22.Rg1  . |
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| Apr-14-11 | | paavoh: @notyetagm <"Black (Jobava) is just so totally outplayed positionally that tactics really aren't called for.">
Yes, a true display on profound understanding of chess, not just the opening. |
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| Aug-28-15 | | CountryGirl: It's interesting how good a record Ivanchuk has against players who, like him, are known for great originality - he has a healthy plus against such players as Jobava, Morozevich, and Shirov... Suggests that to beat Vassily you won't do it through greater creativity, since he rules in that area. |
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Jun-07-24
 | | plang: 5..Nc6!? is a sideline that has scored poorly, In Speelman-Wang Beijing 1997 White had played 10 Nxe4 and had gone on to win; 10 Nge2 was new. Perhaps Black should have considered 10..e5 11 Nb5..exf 12 Nc7..Kd7 13 Nxa8..fxe where White should have good compensation for the exchange. 13..g5 14 gxf!..gxf 15 Nxf4..Qxd6 16 fxe_..Ke7 17 Qh5 would also have been decisive for White. 14..g5 15 Nxe4!..gxf 16 Qxg4 would have given White a powerful attack. 17..g6 18 Qxg4..Bxd6 19 0-0-0..Qxc7 20 Nxd6+..Kg7 21 f5..exf 232 Qf4 would also have been winning. 18..Bxd6 19 Ne8! is another example of White's resources. |
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