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|Jun-23-12|| ||jahhaj: <Sneaky> This is Turing's actual algorithm, or have you just made it up? What's your source?|
|Jun-23-12|| ||jahhaj: A quick google provides this link http://chessprogramming.wikispaces.....|
|Jun-23-12|| ||Sneaky: Sorry for not giving a source, I was copying-and-pasting this link http://antheacarson.hubpages.com/hu...|
(It in turn cites the book "Kasparov versus Deep Blue: Computer Chess Comes of Age," by Monty Newborn, page 24.)
|Jun-23-12|| ||xreny: it´s remarkable this game was played for an ancient Paper computer !!!|
|Jun-23-12|| ||Sneaky: It's also worth quoting: <Champernowne later said 'they were a bit slapdash about all this and must have made a number of slips since the arithmetic was extremely tedious with pencil and paper'. In a CCC forum post, Frederic Friedel mentioned a search depth of up to three plies. > http://chessprogramming.wikispaces....|
"They were a bit slapdash about all of this" ... haha, that makes me smile. You gotta love how our friends across the pond talk.
|Jun-23-12|| ||himadri: except the queens last kamakazi attack the game is fine. I think Turing still has a draw after 29.Qxb5. This means the algorithm is ok the search ply has to be improved.|
|Jun-23-12|| ||jahhaj: <Sneaky> Thanks. Also worth saying that this is a reconstruction of the algorithm, the original seems to be lost. http://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.ph...|
|Jun-23-12|| ||jahhaj: Reading the above link again, amazingly you can get the Turing algorithm as an engine for Fritz! I love it.|
|Jun-23-12|| ||scormus: Let us imagine Mr Glennie was in another room, and the only input he received was the moves being bed back to him by some servant. |
With the knowledge he had at the time, would he be able to determine whether the W move were chosen solely by an algorithm or was there some human intervention?
Perhaps this question is rather relevent today, and even more in contexts other than chess ;)
|Jun-23-12|| ||GlennOliver: The reproduction of this game on Der Spiegel website -|
- has additional annotations.
It is not certain if these annotations are provided by Turing himself or by a third party at some later point, although the tone is reminiscent of Turing.
The German chess piece names there used are -
K = König = King
D = Dame = Queen
T = Turm = Rook
L = Läufer = Bishop
S = Springer = Knight
(for completeness, B = Bauer = Pawn)
|Jun-23-12|| ||Willber G: @scormus:
Subtle and clever post!
|Jun-23-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: GG by Glennie!
|Jun-23-12|| ||kevin86: Do you mean that the first "machine" game didn't involve THE TURK? Was white's move a blunder? Sure looked like it.|
|Jun-23-12|| ||master of defence: Why 29.Qxd6?? White didn´t see Rd8, pinning the queen or what?|
|Jun-23-12|| ||Chessmensch: Smart Alick.|
|Jun-23-12|| ||gars: Turing was an acomplished middle and long distance runner and he invented the "round-the-house chess": you make your move, run or jog around the house and if your opponent did not make his move at the time you seat back, then you are entitled to move again.|
|Jun-29-12|| ||Doctor Aust: The annotations GlennOliver refers to on the Spiegel version of the game are indeed Turing's - they come from the original short article he wrote partly describing his ideas for a chess programme, which is also the source of the game. |
The article was in a pretty obscure book, but it is reproduced on a page at chessbase where Matthias Feist writes about programming a 'Turing Engine' for Fritz using Turing's position evaluation rules.
|Jun-29-12|| ||Doctor Aust: By the way, Gary Kasparov gave a lecture at a Turing Centenary Conference in Manchester (UK) earlier this week, talking about Turing's chess engine, and played a short game against it. There's a video over here:|
|Jul-14-12|| ||Doctor Aust: The game between the 're-programmed' Turochamp engine (playing at 2-ply) and Kasparov is now on chessgames here:|
Turochamp (Computer) vs Kasparov, 2012
|Nov-19-12|| ||kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game here:
|Feb-12-15|| ||offramp: 29 moves at half an hour each is 14.5 hours. I used a slide rule to figure that out.|
|Dec-14-15|| ||moronovich: "The Immitation Game" telling the story of Alan Turing is highly recommended.A very good movie.|
|Jan-01-16|| ||Gato: You can play the Turing algorithm if you like !
Fritz 5.32 software is free (not further versions).An old software but still working on recent Windows. Turing algorithm was compiled as an engine supported by Fritz.
This is a "cool link" :
|Oct-10-16|| ||Sally Simpson: Harry Golembek used to give Alan Turing Queens Odds and win.|
|Oct-10-16|| ||MissScarlett: <Alan Turing Queens Odds>|
Takes one to know one.
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