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|Nov-29-05|| ||kevin86: I once saw an example of FOUR connected pawns on the seventh. This one is doubly odd as black promotes twice in addition to white's triplets.|
It's a draw because NEITHER player can save the game!
|Nov-29-05|| ||Darknite: <saruman> having now spent more than 30 seconds looking at this i must apologize - your lines certainly appear to be best. Qc4 may actually just lose!|
|Nov-29-05|| ||JoeWms: <Ger7ry> The 8 in cu8sfan my brain can handle. But your 7 eludes me. Give up your secret for this rube's cube.|
|Nov-29-05|| ||Saruman: <Darknight><Qc4 may actually just lose!>|
My thoughts exactly!
|Nov-29-05|| ||child of my tears: <Hoozits> White has too many threats of his own for black to have the luxury of pushing these pawns at move 31. White could just ignore it and play 32.e6 or something. At least I think that is why, I don't have time to check with Fritz|
|Nov-29-05|| ||Eric Schiller: <EmperorA>This is a Noteboom Variation, named for a Dutch player, Daniel Noteboom. It is one of the more exciting lines of the QGD and was quite popular a few years back.|
The Caxton project is a public domain resource I have been working on for more than a decade, tracking down opening names and other chess information. It has been hosted at Chess City, but that site is offline so I'm moving it to my own website soon. Anyone can contribute. The list now has almost 3000 named openings and aliases. You can download the opening materials from http://www.ericschiller.com/resourc...
Chessgames is trying to implement this extensive opening list so we don't have to suffer from the shoddy ECO system. Then we can have pages devoted to openings by name, instead of combining sometimes hundreds of openings in a catch-all code like A00.
|Nov-29-05|| ||Saruman: <child of my tears> See my posts.
32.e6(?)b1Q 33.e7 Qxd1+ 34.Qxd1 for example gxf6 and I dont think white can hope for more than a draw.|
|Nov-29-05|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: <Eric Schiller> That sounds like it could make a major improvement to the quality of this website. A very interesting project! Thank you for your explanation.|
|Nov-29-05|| ||OhioChessFan: < I had 8 pawns on the 7th once, then I had to play 1. e4. =) >
<Wannabe>, I've never seen an illegal move made on a player's first move.|
|Nov-29-05|| ||Kaspy2: excellent pun! acropolyptically cool|
|Nov-29-05|| ||Ger7ry: JoeWms asked about the 7 in Ger7ry. I tried to register here as Gerry but someone already had that name so I modified it. |
The 7 is silent.
And, just so there's some chess content to this kibitz, when weary willy writes, "can anyone point to another game with 3 connected passed pawns on the seventh rank?" I'd like to point out that the word "passed" is redundant here, as once a pawn gets to the 7th it's guaranteed to be passed.
|Nov-30-05|| ||kevin86: <Ger7ry>A few things:I never heard of a number having a sound-the seven is silent-.lol.Second,with the algebraic notation:"the seventh rank" is ALWAYS supposed to mean white's seventh and black's second under the old system. The algebraic system is very elegant for some things-but not for others. Eg,When attacks are made on the pawn diagonal to the king it used to be called KB2-now it is called f2/f7|
|Nov-30-05|| ||Eric Schiller: <kevin86> Sorry, Kev, but you are wrong on this. Although the square names are absolute, 7th rank and 8th rank are still used generically (rather like the polically-slightly-incorrect "he" stands for either gender, when used generically). Talking about the seventh rank from Black's point of view, you can say Black's second rank is weak.|
Specific squares dont work that way, so f7/f2 often has to be written that way, though when I teach I just use "our favorite target square" to cover both.
I did a formal grammatical analysis of chess notation back in 1985, and it was eventually published in vol. 5 of the University of Chicago Working Papers in Linguistics.
It is interesting to observe the interaction of chess notation and sentence structure in languages that don't have the verb in the middle. Soemtimes German notation places the capture symbol (:) at the end of the move, where the verb would be.
|Feb-10-06|| ||McCool: What an odd game.
|Apr-06-06|| ||gauer: chessgames.com: I don't know whether the Caxton Collection of named openings has each of the names of variations found in the Oxford Companion (Hooper and Whyld), but that is also a nice index. I've noticed a larger % ratio of unorthodox to orthodox variations in the Caxton database, and my preference is to concentrate on the many more main lines in the Companion which have better held up against the test of time. I hope that it might also work its way in.|
|Jun-29-06|| ||BadTemper: why not 30 Rxb2? to play Rxa6|
|Jan-16-07|| ||Tactic101: This is just plain weird. Black queening so many times and still is left begging for mercy because of white's pawns which almost proved to be deadly. My teacher told me that this Note Boom opening often leads to a pawn roller for black on the queenside, but who would think that both sides would get so many pawns that neared the queening square.|
|Aug-10-07|| ||MarkThornton: A remarkably similar game was played in 1995:
B Detlev vs E Relange, 1995
This discovery was made by Tim Krabbe, http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess/c...
|Sep-03-07|| ||aragorn69: <MarkThornton> Congratulations, you are becoming quite famous over on Tim Krabbé's chess diary! :-0)|
|Dec-24-08|| ||thebribri8: Not only is it similar, it is the exact same game, just with a different move order!|
|Jan-21-09|| ||WhiteRook48: what really gets me is the 3 pawns on the 7th.|
|Jan-24-09|| ||WhiteRook48: nice game. THREE PAWNS ON THE SEVENTH ARE AWESOME!!|
|Feb-25-09|| ||arnoldc: Talking Esthetic, equally beautifull as "three connected Pawns on the 7th rank" would have result from: 41. e:R=Q+ Q:Q 42. d7 Qb-d8
just a great view.
In this case the Black Queen-Pair are stuck on their places to block the White Pawns, and the White Rooks should remain on their files to protect the pawns. So White would just wait, while Black will move ..g6..K-g7..Qf-somewhere. White Queens on f8, and probably a draw.
|Aug-01-09|| ||WhiteRook48: white should win|
|Oct-12-09|| ||Phony Benoni: Just for the record, here is the game with four connected passed pawns on the seventh rank: F J Lee vs H Shoosmith, 1904|
And, for another set of triplets: Janowski vs Ed Lasker, 1924
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