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|Jul-19-07|| ||Kruglov: <Gilmoy: ...Cute point: Even if White could somehow decline the R (e.g. 44.K<teleports-to>g1), then 44..Rxf3 45.gxf3 and White's bad B and doubled pawns are blockaded, and Black still draws!>The White Rook at g7 would a make it a win for White.|
|Jul-19-07|| ||SwitchingQuylthulg: <Kruglov: <Gilmoy: ...Cute point: Even if White could somehow decline the R (e.g. 44.K<teleports-to>g1), then 44..Rxf3 45.gxf3 and White's bad B and doubled pawns are blockaded, and Black still draws!>The White Rook at g7 would a make it a win for White.> Yes, 44...Rxf3 would be losing. However, 44.K->g1 Rh1+! 45.K->g3 Rh3+ 46.K->g1 Rh1+ and draw by perpetual.|
|Jul-19-07|| ||gawain: Forlorn and frustrated I am. It just never occurred to me to look for stalemate. |
I saw no way for B to win but I lacked the confidence to conclude that B could not possibly win.
|Jul-19-07|| ||statisticsman: <Captain Scarlet> It was easy because we knew it was a puzzle. However, I highly doubt you would have found this OTB, but maybe I am wrong.|
|Jul-19-07|| ||Ashram64: it's a stalemate sacrifice!!!|
|Jul-19-07|| ||YouRang: After a few moments of futility, I decided that it must be a drawing tactic that we're looking for.|
At that point, I finally noticed that black had very few moves, with the pinned knight, blocked pawn, and immobilized king.
It didn't take long after that to find the idea that surrenders the remaining mobile pieces without without disturbing the immobility of the other pieces: 42...Qg7+! followed by 43...Rxh3! -- white must agree to stalemate (or give up enough material to lose).
It's always fascinated me how zany the moves can be when you're going for a draw.
|Jul-19-07|| ||lopium: I found a thursday'one!!|
|Jul-19-07|| ||MostlyAverageJoe: So, I printed out the puzzle and brought it to my seven-year old to ponder over breakfast. Not a second passed and he goes:|
"Easy - queen g7, rook takes, rook takes pawn, king takes, stalemate."
He must have heard my jaw hitting the floor and continued: "What? How long did it take YOU to solve it?", then proceeded teasing me about having to think for a couple minutes about such an "easy" puzzle.
Finally I got him to admit that he saw it in "Chess Life for Kids". About six weeks ago. And he just remembered it.
<Benzol: I found the stalemate draw idea but did Black resign or run out of time here as it's 1-0 not 1/2-1/2?>
The black resigned, considering his position as hopeless. Source: "Chess Life for Kids"
|Jul-19-07|| ||kevin86: I answered this one. I noticed that black's king had no moves and the queen and rook can be sacrificed-the rest was easy.|
Easy for a problem-however,over the board,it wasn't easy enough for the resigner.
|Jul-19-07|| ||Whitehat1963: Amazing finish. No way I saw it.|
|Jul-19-07|| ||nolanryan: Very drunk.
black to move. medium difficulty.
hmm.. the king can't move, the knight can't move
so I have to find a rook or queen move.
YEAH RIGHT! Time to check solution.
|Jul-19-07|| ||fm avari viraf: At first glance, I could fine the stalemate with 42...Qg7+ but I thought there must be a win & tried for 5 mts. & then I realised that it has to be draw! Surprisingly, David couldn't sense it. Maybe, this time the giant warrior Goliath mesmerized little David where his sling didn't swing.|
|Jul-19-07|| ||blair45: First, I could make some snippy remarks about the Owen Defense, but no point in needlesly antagonizing players. Then, I could write that I looked for attacking/sac moves for Black for five minutes before I realized his game was completely lost. After that, it was easy to find 42. ...Qg7+!|
|Jul-19-07|| ||playground player: I suspected a stalemate in the works, but couldn't find it. Earlier, though, I think White passed up a winning chance. How about this as an alternative? 11. Nd6+ (not c4), Bxd6 12. Qxd6... and after some move by Black, 13. Bg5, backed up by the other Knight, putting pressure on the Black Queen.|
|Jul-19-07|| ||MenisfromVenis: Stalemate! Black position is wrecked, with the K not able to move.
So Q sac on g7, then R sac on h3 and black has no moves.|
|Jul-19-07|| ||Fezzik: I am not at all surprised that Black missed the stalemate. After all, a world champion, in a very important game, missed a perpetual check and resigned a drawn position. (Deep Blue vs Kasparov 1-0)|
|Jul-19-07|| ||Fezzik: @<FM avari viraf>
The allusion to David vs Goliath is clever but off-point. A more appropriate reference to David might be to his being blinded by the beauty of Bathsheba. After all, Klimova is a woman!
|Jul-19-07|| ||vibes43: I wonder if Masha Klinova saw the stillmate during the game.|
|Jul-19-07|| ||PAWNTOEFOUR: i was looking for a win for black..and there was no way...but it never dawned on me to look for a stalemate..nice puzzle|
|Jul-19-07|| ||Oregon104: So, the solution to this puzzle is to resign? Great puzzle.|
|Jul-19-07|| ||soberknight: Yes!!! I solved it. After looking for five minutes trying to find the mate, I finally realized that there wasn't one, but the king and knight had no moves, and the queen and rook could sacrifice for stalemate! I love the stalemate swindles of Larry Evans and Mikhail Chigorin and all the others, but I admire those as a fan, not a player. There's a feeling when I solve a puzzle like this, as if I found the swindle myself. It's too bad the loser of this game was not so fortunate...|
|Jul-19-07|| ||WannaBe: Masha, Masha, Masha, it's always Masha! =)|
|Jul-19-07|| ||ALEXIN: I remember a chapter of one book of Mednis ("Practical Endgame Tips") about prompt rendition.
But I have to admit that the stalemate with doble sacrifices is not easy to see on board.|
|Jul-20-07|| ||RandomVisitor: 24...Ra8?? was losing for Black. White could have played 28.Bxd6 and perhaps this wins faster.|
Perhaps 24...Kc8 would keep Black in the game.
18.Bd6 might preserve a white advantage, instead 18.b4 leads to equality.
|Jul-20-07|| ||zb2cr: <Oregon104>,
No, the solution to the puzzle is given in the note--which explains the stalemate swindle line which Black missed.
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