chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Svetozar Gligoric vs Joseph Rosenstein
64th US Open (1963), Chicago, IL USA, rd 3, Aug-13
Nimzowitsch Defense: Williams Variation (B00)  ·  1-0
ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 7 times; par: 27 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 3,153 more games of Gligoric
sac: 19.Qxe7+ PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" button below the game.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Apr-29-10  ceebo: Argh! I saw Bd6 Bxd6?? Qe8+ Qxe8 Rxe8# and I examined Qxe7 Qxe7 Rxe7 Kxe7 for quite a while, but I didn't put two and two together.
Apr-29-10  Patriot: This seemed really easy. At first I wanted to drop the knight into e6, which looks like a really good square positionally but doesn't seem forcing enough though it is a check. Then I looked at another check, which is much more violent. 19.Qxe7+ Qxe7 20.Bd6, winning a piece since 20...Qxd6 21.Re8#.

I admit wasting a little time looking at 20...Nf7 or 20...g6 but white doesn't have to play very accurately and can just play 21.Bxe7+ and retreat if he likes, playing on while up a piece. 20...Ne6 is obviously lost as well since white can play 21.Bxe7+ followed by 22.Rxe6.

Apr-29-10  LIFE Master AJ: I honestly was stumped by this one ... although I gave up after 30 seconds or so. (Its early, and I have not had my coffee yet.)
Apr-29-10  tivrfoa: <Please someone post the link of yesterday puzzle> This one was not hard. Like <randomsac> I realized Re8#. Very fast game. I liked it. xD
Apr-29-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  doubledrooks: Missed it. Went for 19. Bd6, overlooking 19...Qxd6.
Apr-29-10  Patriot: <tivrfoa>: <Please someone post the link of yesterday puzzle>

Here's a link to the game: Suba vs Hebden, 1983

It's white's move: 60.?

I'm not sure how you can avoid seeing the game move however.

Apr-29-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: The end is similar to Morphy's Opera House game. The queen is lured away and the rook mates.
Apr-29-10  tivrfoa: Thanks a lot <Patriot>. I was able to avoid seeing the move :) but I failed to find the correct one :( It was an interesting end game.
Apr-29-10  reztap: Very nice. I drew Gligoric in a simul he gave in Cleveland some years back. He was very generous with his draws. A real gentleman.
Apr-29-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  chrisowen: A thorny issue where Rosestein's crown's slipping up under the weight of crossfire. In the ring qxe7 queen take scalps him and tears a hole once cleric nails it pinning the king. Of the dues owed to SG, suss 1.Nc6 looks like at top level. The point us gather would stem from pawn pile at arranging defence 3f5.. sedition that plants white to reap ergotic.
Apr-29-10  A Karpov Fan: got it (easy!)
Apr-29-10  bengalcat47: To quote a famous play, "Rosenstein and Guildenstern are dead." Seroously though, the Nimzovich Defense (1. e4, Nc6) only found favor with its famous creator. There are very few instances of it being played by someone other than Nimzovich.
Apr-29-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  paulalbert: I thought this one was easy for Thursday, but very instructive.

Paul Albert

Apr-29-10  VincentL: After looking at this "medium" position for a few minutes, I see the following:

19. Qe7+. Now if 19....Qxe7 white continues 20. Bd6 ! winning the black queen.

Black cannot play 20.... Qxd6 because of 21. Re8 mate.

This must be the solution. Time to check.

Apr-29-10  ROO.BOOKAROO: Anybody understood what Chrisowne meant to say? Is this English or what?
Apr-29-10  Patriot: <<ROO.BOOKAROO>: Anybody understood what Chrisowne meant to say? Is this English or what?>

It's not so much the "what" but the "why" that bothers me...

To each their own I guess.

Apr-29-10  wals: Rybka 3 1-cpu: 3071mb hash: depth 15:

Black was battling to maintain equality from the start and self-destructed with:-

16...Bb7, + 6.23. Kf7, + 2.23 may have given him some hope.

Apr-29-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  YouRang: Took me a long time to see this, which is a shame because it's not that hard. The pattern with the bishop & rook mate on d8 is right there, waiting for a couple pieces to be cleared away.

But it does require a bishop sac that not only deflects the black queen from its defense of d8, but it also pins the queen to prevent it from taking my rook with check. Good puzzle.

Apr-29-10  Utopian2020: Rosenstein has only one game in the CG database. Hopefully, this game was not among his best.
Apr-29-10  ZorinNighthawk: Took about five minutes for me. First one I have got but only been coming to the sight for three days now. This one seems easier than the last two days.
Apr-29-10  rapidcitychess: Why not 20.Rxe7 Kxe7 21 Rd1+ winning?
Apr-29-10  PinnedPiece: <A Karpov Fan: got it (easy!)>

Same for me. Looking at this tomorrow or the next day, maybe not...but things fell rapidly in place today and I saw the unavoidable mate with the rook fairly quickly.

.

Apr-30-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Once: <bengalcat47: the Nimzovich Defense (1. e4, Nc6) only found favor with its famous creator. There are very few instances of it being played by someone other than Nimzovich.>

Tony Miles used to play the nimzowich quite often, but then anyone who can beat Karpov with the St. George (1...a6) can't really be quoted as a role model for "sensible" chess openings.

Apr-30-10  TheaN: Thursday 29 April

<19.?>

Target: 3:30;000
Taken: >6

Material: =

Candidates: Ne6, Qxe7 for a long time, Bd6....ah of course, <[Qxe7]>

-ML-
The candidates list pretty much sums up why it took me so long to find this one. It's hard to say Black is equal after 19.Ne6 Nxe6 (19....Kg8 20.Nxd8! ) 20.Qxe6 Qxe6 21.Rxe6 but White is not that much ahead. After 19.Qxe7!? Qxe7 20.Rxe7? Kxe7 21.Re1, 21....Ne6 probably draws somewhere but 21....Kd7 just wins. However, then I noticed the idea of using the pin on the Bishop on e7 with 19.Bd6, the only problem being 19....Qxd6 . Hey....

<19.Qxe7! Qxe7 (19....Kg8 20.Qe8 Qxe8 21.Rxe8 1-0) 20.Bd6 > and White will win at least a piece by winning the Queen back with a terrific position. The follow-up 20....Qxd6 21.Re8 should be rather obvious. Time to check.

Jan-13-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  malt: Would make a good puzzle for monday
Jump to page #    (enter # from 1 to 3)
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any member Iincludinfgall Admin and Owners or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. If you think someone is an idiot, then provide evidence that their reasoning is invalid and/or idiotic, instead of just calling them an idiot. It's a subtle but important distinction, even in political discussions.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.
Spot an error? Please submit a correction slip and help us eliminate database mistakes!
<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
Nimzowitsch Def. Williams Var (B00) 1-0 pinned to a checkmate
from Nick, Ned & Fredthebear's Sketchy Deal of Week by fredthebear
19. Qxe7+! Qxe7 20. Bd6! +-
from Pin and Deflection by patzer2
G142: Svetozar Gligoric Collected Games, Edited by Colin Leach
from E F G Players by fredthebear
Pinned to a checkmate.
from multilayered tactics by randomsac
Everything about attack V2
by KASTILOWSKY
19.? (Thursday, April 29)
from POTD Nimzo Indian by takchess
C1
from 0@ Tune your chess antenna by takchess
Nim 1-0 21 drag SI
from 2010 by xfer
21 moves
from Chess Miniatures, Collection XII by wwall
Pawnpusher1's favorite games
by Pawnpusher1
Selected checkmates
by Chessdreamer
Game 142
from Svetozar Gligoric Collected Games (Leach) by Chessdreamer


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC