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Peter Svidler vs Loek van Wely
Aerosvit (2008), Foros UKR, rd 11, Jun-19
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation. English Attack (B90)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Jun-19-08  Brettwith2ts: Wow. That's a game that went almost completely over my head the first time.

And the second. No one human being ought to be able to see something so deep.

Jun-20-08
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  Honza Cervenka: To the move 23 of white it is all "theory". In fact, both players played the same line last year in the same tournament (see Svidler vs Van Wely, 2007) and Van Wely played it also against Shirov at Corus tournament - Shirov vs Van Wely, 2007
Jun-20-08  MichAdams: As Judit Polgar once put it, <Nowadays the audience looks at the game and thinks, Oh, how interesting', and after the game you find out it was all book until move 35. It's not really creative anymore.>

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Jun-21-08  Brettwith2ts: Wow. That's even worse. Someone took the time to figure all of that out at home? I've heard of such things, but I refused to really believe they existed...

Not really, of course, I knew that top GMs did that. It just really brings it into sharp perspective what everyone says about chess becoming more and more a game of memorization and pre-tournament work, rather than on-the-spot ingenuity and skill.

Oct-21-08
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  Mateo: According to computers, 30...Bb4!! wins for Black but it is almost impossible to find on the board, even for the strongest players.
Oct-21-08  Eyal: <As Judit Polgar once put it, <Nowadays the audience looks at the game and thinks, Oh, how interesting', and after the game you find out it was all book until move 35.>>

I remember very vividly such an experience from watching live the game Radjabov vs Topalov, 2007, with everybody getting ecstatic about Topalov's queen sac, and then reading:

<As you already know, Radjabov and Topalov played 25 moves of analysis and agreed to a draw. The queen sac Topalov offered in the Catalan was analyzed in the German magazine Schach after the Elista match (game 10 was the stem game) and both players get the magazine, sooooo....> (http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt...)

Oct-21-08  Eyal: <Mateo: According to computers, 30...Bb4!! wins for Black but it is almost impossible to find on the board, even for the strongest players.>

Position after 30...Bb4:


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And now if the rook moves along the 3rd rank, leaving the c-file, then after 30...Bxa3 31.bxa3 b2 White can't be saved anymore by Qc2. But I suppose the line which is really difficult to figure out is 31.Rxc6 Bxa3 32.Rxc7 (32.bxa3 b2 33.Qc2 Qxa3 - now that the rook doesn't defend a3) 32...Bf8 (threatening Qa2+) 33.Ra7 Qxe4+ 34.Ka1


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34...Qc2! 35.Be3 Bc5! (or 35.Qxc2 bxc2 36.Be3 Bc5!)

Oct-21-08
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  Mateo: <Eyal> <I suppose the line which is really difficult to figure out is 31.Rxc6 Bxa3 32.Rxc7 (32.bxa3 b2 33.Qc2 Qxa3 - now that the rook doesn't defend a3) 32...Bf8 (threatening Qa2+) 33.Ra7 Qxe4+ 34.Ka1 34...Qc2! 35.Be3 Bc5! (or 35.Qxc2 bxc2 36.Be3 Bc5!)> Yes.

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