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| kamalakanta: This same variation was employed by Anand vs. Carlsen, Chess Classic Mainz 2008..
Anand vs Carlsen, 2008
But Radjabov's 17th move is an efficient novelty! it takes away the square g5 from the White Queen (which is an entry point after Bxg7 and Rxh5), and rightly estimates that Black has th advantage after 18...Bxg4. All of Black's pieces are efficiently poised for attack, and Black has already a 2-pawn advantage! 20...Rxc3 is the icing on the cake, as after 21.Qxc3 Qxc3 22. bxc3 Black has a favorable position; White has no entry points; Black is better, even though white has the 2-exchange material advantage. |
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| cannibal: GM Shipov gave the following saving line for white:
<46.Rxe4! f5 47.Re1! f4 48.Rg1 Ke6 49.Kb2!! Kf5 50.Kc3 Kg4(50...Ke4 51.Kd2 Kf3 52.Rf1+!) 51.Kd2 f3 52.Ke3 f2 53.Ra1 Kh3 54.Kf3 Kh2 55.Ke2 Kg2 56.Rc1 and draw> It's insanely hard to see through all this of course, it ends up almost the same way as in the game, only that white can stop the black g-pawn on g3 already, which is just enough to block everything. |
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Aug-14-08
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| OneArmedScissor: This game is just so incredibly awesome.
One of the best games of 2008, IMO. |
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Aug-14-08
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| OneArmedScissor: <17. ...Bf6!> is one of those subtle moves where you're just like... "damn" |
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| Illogic: Every once in a while these GMs remind me that, no, I am indeed nowhere close to comprehending what goes on in these games of theirs! |
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Aug-14-08
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| micartouse: This is a pretty remarkable game. Radjabov decides his minor pieces are better than his opponent's rooks in a dragon ending. He just needs a bunch of pawns. |
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| muradov: Simply a piece of art by Radjabov, in style of great Tal.. I'm looking forward to Bilbao! |
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Aug-14-08
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| micartouse: <in style of great Tal..> Or Petrosian! He showed an appropriate contempt for the value of rooks in this game. Knights and pawns are better! |
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Aug-14-08
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| Dr. Funkenstein: Incredible game, Radjabov plays in the style of Topalov vs. Aronian and sacrifices both exchanges to eventually create a pair of killer passed pawns. However, the position after ... Qxc3 bxc3, doesn't look like black has enough for the massive material deficit. Congrats to Radjabov for his deep analysis of the position and his creativity to find a win down so much material. |
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| Aug-14-08 |
| Bobsterman3000: <dabears> Yes, 31. Rh3 was a monumental blunder on the same scale as the disastrous drafting of Cade McNown or Cedric Benson... |
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Aug-14-08
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| 4tmac: In these endings a rook fears connected passed pawns. That's why I think Sergey played 46.Kb2?!. However, this leads to: 
click for larger view ...which is won. 46.RxN! lets both pawns get going but this allows white the time to keep the g pawn from reaching the 7th rank. (Shipov's line given by cannibal) 
click for larger view ...with a draw |
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| Aug-14-08 |
| Augalv: Commentary at www.Karjakin.blogspot.com |
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| Aug-15-08 |
| thathwamasi: Radja's immortal. I think this will qualify for Kasparov's my great sucessors book. :D |
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Aug-15-08
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| ahmadov: Amazing game by Radja! He really deserves to become one of the winners of the FIDE Grand Prix of 2008-2009... Congratulations! |
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Aug-15-08
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| ahmadov: I especially liked 45...Kd7! |
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| Aug-15-08 |
| Sui Generis: A truly great game by Radjabov and a pleasure to watch live. Two exchange sacrifices in the same game, remember the classic Petrosian vs Spassky, 1966? |
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| Atking: I suggested on this site 17...Bf6 just a day after the game Anand vs Carlsen saying the importance of the diagonal a1-h8. But I had a doubt and I still have a doubt. Maybe (Surely) a miscaculation from my part but 18.f4 still looks strong to me a) 18...Nc4 19.BxNc4 RxBc4 20.Nb3 BxNc3 21.NxQa5 BxQd2 22.NxRc4 Bxf4 23.RxNh5 b) 18...Nf3 19.NxNf3 BxNc3 (19...RxNc3 20.e5!) 20.bxBc3 gxNf3 21.Rxg6+ Else c) 18...Nc6 19.Nde2 White isn't better here. Therefore I'm happy that Radjabov came back and finished strongly this tournament. His decision to play the dragon in the last round was clever and courageous. |
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| 4tmac: Karjakin's website pointed out a detail I didn't notice at first (this game has a lot of those) but 45. ... Nc3+? 46. Ka3 Ne2 47. RxP g2 
click for larger view .White draws by "perpetual" since if black goes to the e file, white gives up the rook for the g pawn and draws by one tempo. I like the line: 48. Rf7+ Kc6 49. Rf6+ Kc5 50. Rf5+ Kc4 51. Rg5 g1=Q 52. RxQ NxR white snags the pawns & draws |
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Aug-15-08
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| Ulhumbrus: The main point of the double exchange ascrifice seems to be that White's Rooks lack any open files. Or do they? What about the b file? After 23 Bc4 Nxc4 24 Bxg4 White's K can't go to b2 and a1, but suppose instead of 23 Bc4 White tries 23 a4. This begins the plan of Ka1 and Rb1. White has only to find one open file to occupy with his Rooks, and Black can start to worry. It is true that Black also has a King. On 23 a4 Ke7 begins to move the King towards the Queen side. Then on 24 Ba2 Kd7 25 Nb3 heads for d2 or a5 or prepares a5 |
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Aug-18-08
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| arsen387: Unbelievable, but in this report
http://www.chesspro.ru/_events/2008... is written that the final (maybe not exactly the final, but after 43..Kxc7)position was a draw. Computer found an amazing drawing line. Unfortunately that line isn't written there. Does anyone know that line? |
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| Aug-18-08 |
| najdorfman: arsen387:
The drawing line starts on move 46.
46. Rxe4 f5 47. Re1 f4 48. Rg1 Ke6 49. Kb2 Kf5 50. Kc2 Kg4 51. Kd2 f3 (51...Kf3 52. Rf1 Kg4 53. Rg1=) 52. Ke3 f2 53. Ra1 Kh3 54. Ke2. White just sits and waits. Black cannot make any progress. Okay? |
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Aug-18-08
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| Ulhumbrus: <najdorfman: arsen387:
The drawing line starts on move 46.
46. Rxe4 f5 47. Re1 f4 48. Rg1 Ke6 49. Kb2 Kf5 50. Kc2 Kg4 51. Kd2 f3 (51...Kf3 52. Rf1 Kg4 53. Rg1=) 52. Ke3 f2 53. Ra1 Kh3 54. Ke2. White just sits and waits. Black cannot make any progress. Okay?> The variation which you have given
suggests that following 46 Rxe4 White can draw after with a Rook against the two connected Black passed pawns on the third rank if his King reaches the d file, because the two Kings are not of equal value. White's King is more valuable than Black's King. Black's King cannot make up for the work done by White's King. Thus after ...f2 White's King can attack the f2 pawn whereas Black's King cannot defend it, and this prevents ...g2. Or after ....g2 White's King can control f2 but Black's King cannot attack it. An instructive lesson in the end-game.
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Aug-19-08
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| arsen387: <najdorfman> yeah, thanks. cool, 4 passers can't beat a R (of course only because 2 pawns are doubled)! This is really a good lesson |
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| ughaibu: If there are only four pawns and two of these are doubled, then there are not four passed pawns, there are only three. |
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Aug-25-08
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| dabearsrock1010: <bobsterman> haha yeah i know that all too well. <cannibal> You are almost certainly correct, I guess I was looking at the position superficially, but white is in tons of trouble no matter how he moves. |
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