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| rogge: Even though Wang Yue is a superstrong GM, I must say that <Panda> is a good nickname - Cautious, slowmoving and dull. Sorry, Wang Yue...
(And yes, I'm a Carlsen fan) |
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Mar-03-09
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| Jack Kerouac: <Aspirador> I rather like the crinkly edges........... |
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| Mar-03-09 |
| Glossu: Guys, I actually saw the Panda nickname in a blog on the Chinese Master:
http://zorbin.wordpress.com/
I liked, it makes sense. And its not dull, its powerful!!. Go Wang Yue!! |
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| Mar-05-09 |
| s4life: <rogge: Even though Wang Yue is a superstrong GM, I must say that <Panda> is a good nickname - Cautious, slowmoving and dull.> This game was nothing of the sorts... |
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| Mar-05-09 |
| Eban: <I must say that <Panda> is a good nickname> Same here, Magnus was in this game like a bamboo shoot - chewed on and spat out :D |
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Mar-10-09
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| al wazir: If white plays 41. Kc4, black has nothing better than a draw. |
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| gazzawhite: haha, best pun ever! |
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Mar-10-09
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| outplayer: Black is still ok |
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Mar-10-09
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| Once: This game reminded me of the film King Kong. By that, I mean that I really wanted the underdog to win. Carlssen sacrifices his queen for two rooks and marches his king nearly all the way up the board. Yo! Go white! But then he doesn't win. Wang calmly hoovers all the white pawns to win with his kingside majority. Having climbed all the way to the top of the empire state building, our hero is brought low by the guns of the biplanes. Boo! I know, I know, my mind works in weird ways sometimes. I see a chess game and think of King Kong. It's either a curse of a gift. |
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| lostemperor: The pun I do not get? |
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| MaxxLange: <lostemporer> "Coming in on a wing and a prayer" was something that WW2 aviators used to describe attempting to land back at base after being damaged during missions |
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| YoungEd: As usual, I need to preface this with the usual "I'm a crummy chessplayer with no real right to question a GM," but... do you think maybe White's 16.  b2 was a mistake? It blocked the only square for the  on the rim to enter back in the game to help defend the K-side. To be honest, I don't understand Black's exchange sac later, but in any case the White never gets to accomplish much in the game. Opinions welcome! |
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Mar-10-09
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| lostemperor: Ah <MaxxLange: "Coming in on a wing and a prayer">. Now it I get:) |
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| xrt999: why are Carlsen's games always so frickin-fracken LONG. (ostensibly) |
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| Mar-10-09 |
| cydmd: 41.Kc4 Qe2+
42.Kd5 Rd8 and it follows a similar but better line than the one from the actual game. 42.Rd3 Qc2+ 43.Kd5 Qxd3+ winning.
Where is the draw?
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| Mar-10-09 |
| LaFreak II: <Eyal: <Sularus: <Marmot PFL: Just play 26.g3, silly boy.> i don't think that would work because of 26. ... Nxg3>
26.g3 Nxg3 27.Nxd5 Nxf1 28.Kxf1 or 27.Re1 Ne4 28.f4 should probably be about equal; at any rate, much better for White than the game.> Eyal,you overlooked 27..Ne2+ and mate was inevitable.Then if Carlsen move 26.g3 instead of the text move the game will continue like this. 26.g3 Nxg3
White has only 2 options here either
27.fxg3 or 27.Re1
And if White recaptures
27.fxg3 Qxg3+ 28.Rg2 Qxe3(28.Rg2 is better than Kh1) 29.Rff2 Qxb6 threatening Bc5 pinning the Rf2 (29.Kh1 falls also gives the h-pawn to black) If 27.Re1 then we have to find the best landing square of the Knight. 27..Nh1 is meet by f4
27..Nf1 is meet by Kxf1,not Rxf1
27..Ne2+ the king must move,the only move Kf1
27..Ne4 is met by f4
27..Nf5 is meet by f4
27..Nh5 black losses.
So i guess GM Magnus Carlsen miss the
26.g3 Nxg3 27.Re1!! and all the mating threats are gone!
If I miss something kindly re post it and the mistake and it will be appreciate. But still GM Wang Yue played a great game exploiting the inferior opening of his opponent. Just an Info: GM Magnus Carlsen is one of the favorite player of GM Wesley So aside from GM You Hifan. |
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| LaFreak II: 26.g3 Nxe3 is also a good try
27.fxe3 Qxe3
28.Kg2 Qxb6
29.Rxd5 which I think GM Carlsen can manage to win it. |
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| Mar-10-09 |
| Chessdreamer: 11.Rc1 seems to be a novelty.
11.cxd5 cxd5 12.dxe5 Nxe5 13.Qd1 Bd6 14.Be2 0-0 15.0-0 Qe7 16.Rc1 a5
17.Qc2 Rad8 18.Rfd1 Ng6 19.Be1 Qe5 20.g3 h5 21.Qb2 Qe6 22.Kg2 h4 23.g4 Rfe8 24.Qd4 Nf4+ 25.exf4 Qxe2 26.Bd2 Re4 27.Qb6 Be7 28.Be3 d4 29.Rd2 Rxe3 30.Rxe2 Rxe2 31.Qa6 d3 32.Rd1 Nd5 33.Kf3 Nxf4 34.Kxf4 Rxf2+ 35.Ke3 Rh2 36.Qxa5 Rxh3+ 37.Kf2 Rg3 38.Nb2 Bf6 39.Rxd3 Rgxd3 40.Nxd3 Rxd3 41.Qxb4 h3 42.Qf4 Rc3 43.g5 Rc2+ 44.Kg1 Rg2+ 45.Kh1 Rxg5 46.a4 Rd5 47.Qf3 Rd4 48.a5 Be5 49.a6 Rd7 50.Qxh3 Rd1+ 51.Kg2 Rd2+ 52.Kf1 Rd8 53.a7 Ra8 54.Qe3 f6 55.b4 Kf7 56.b5 Ke6 57.b6 Kd7 58.b7 Rxa7 59.Qxa7 1-0, Aleksei Lugovoi vs.Sergey Volkov, Moscow 1999. |
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| kevin86: I neat finish. Finally,the three pawns on the king side will decide this one. |
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Mar-10-09
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| Eyal: <LaFreak II: Eyal,you overlooked [26.g3 Nxg3 27.Nxd5] 27...Ne2+ and mate was inevitable> No, it wasn't - after 28.Kg2 Black doesn't seem to have anything better than draw by perpetual. You can check out Dennis Monokroussos' extensive analysis of the position after 25...Qe5 at http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/fil... |
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| WhiteRook48: Carlsen is just falling! |
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| Mar-10-09 |
| Dredge Rivers: These are the kind of games Carlsen needs to stop losing if he's to improve. With a little more consistency, he would have won Linares. What irony. 41 of the 56 games at Linares were draws, and what Carlsen need were a few MORE of them! |
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Mar-10-09
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| Creg: <WhiteRook48> Falling?! I don't think so. Magnus is 18 at this time (Feb 2009) and he didn't start taking chess seriously until he was about 8 years old. That's only 10 years!!! Falling?? No, more like one of the greatest ascents we have ever seen. He is playing with the best, drawing, winning and losing with the best. He is so close to a dominant rein in chess that it is palpable. All he needs is a little more time, i.e. maturity, when his game will even out, and then it will begin. |
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| Mar-10-09 |
| LaFreak II: <Eyal: <LaFreak II: Eyal,you overlooked [26.g3 Nxg3 27.Nxd5] 27...Ne2+ and mate was inevitable> No, it wasn't - after 28.Kg2 Black doesn't seem to have anything better than draw by perpetual. You can check out Dennis Monokroussos' extensive analysis of the position after 25...Qe5 at http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/fil...;
Thank you bro,i overlooked 28.Kg2 and yes it was perpetual.Thanks for the link.I just analyzed the game with my chess board.Very bright analysis by Dennis Monokroussos.. |
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Mar-11-09
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| al wazir: <cydmd>: You're right, 41. Kc4 doesn't save white. |
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