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| percyblakeney: <I think that Moro didn't even consider 26.Rxf8+!! because if he had, the variations that follow would have been child's play for him> I think so too, it would have been five ply at most to get to a point where black resigns, and a 2750 player spending more than five minutes on the position would probably find it most of the time. |
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Jul-29-09
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| euripides: A quicker and surer win for Black was suggested: 49...Nxg6 50.hxg6 h5 51.gxh7 hxg4 52.fxg4 Bd4 and though White can exhcange the b and e pawns the g pawn will win for Black. Both players played the ending rather quickly, perhaps out of frustration in Morozevich's case. I wonder if Vachier initially underestimated its difficulty. |
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| Jul-29-09 |
| schroedingers cat: The only one that can stop Moro from creating a brilliancy is again Moro himself :) 27. Bf1 intending to play Bc4 looks interresting (and probably winning): Weird that Moro played the weird 27. h5. (although a sentence involving weird and Moro seems perfectly normal) |
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Jul-29-09
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| euripides: I think what Korotylev said was 'franzuz polnostyu poteryal vnymanye' - француз полностью потерял внимание if the Cyrillic interface works - which could be translated 'the Frenchman completely lost concentration'. Nothing disrespectful there as far as I can see. Korotylev does of course the advantage of having a computer and gave ?? to Morozevich's 26th when the evaluation dropped by 9 pawns. |
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Jul-29-09
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| percyblakeney: <Nothing disrespectful there as far as I can see>
No, Google Translate exaggerated it a bit, but the fun thing is that he saw it as such a mistake in spite of black having the winning 49. ... Nxg6. Korotylev's engine assisted evaluations are wrong most of the endgame, after white's 70th it's drawn but after black's 70th it's 0-1 :-) |
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Jul-29-09
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| euripides: <percy> yes, for a long time he couldn't see a winning plan for Black. I still wonder if White had some saving resource, perhaps involving keeping the b pawn. |
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| Jul-29-09 |
| Ezzy: An astonishing game!!!! Morozevich comes up with an amazing novelty and sets the game up for a brilliancy!!!! But alas it wasn't to be. Credit to MVL for 'hanging on in there' in a difficult position which was thorough home prep by Moro. One of the most exciting and complicated games I have seen in a long time. Who said chess is being played out? You could spend years trying to work out the intricate nature of this one game. |
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| Jul-29-09 |
| PAWNTOEFOUR: well i watched this game on chessok and on 22.Be6 rybka aquarium gave a line and declared that 'white has a decisive advantage' +3.27 |
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| Jul-29-09 |
| dTal: Can somebody please tell me what the point of 35 .. a4 was? What's wrong with 36. bxa? |
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Jul-29-09
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| JointheArmy: <Well I personnaly think that GM KOROTYLEV should comment in a more respectful way because players are rated at least 100 points higher than him and now better what is going on.> This. Too many GM's with Rybka think they know everything when they commentate. |
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| Jul-29-09 |
| vanytchouck: < PAWNTOEFOUR: well i watched this game on chessok and on 22.Be6 rybka aquarium gave a line and declared that 'white has a decisive advantage' +3.27 > This has already been said :
If 22...Qxe6 23.Ne8 and if 22...Kxe6 and it's mate in around 20 moves. |
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Jul-29-09
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| aragorn69: Wonderful game.
27.-Rh7 is surely one of the most fantastic defensive conception ever! |
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Jul-29-09
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| ToTheDeath: Game of the year- and it will be talked about and analyzed for years to come. |
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Jul-30-09
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| blacksburg: double u tee eff. i'm never looking at this game again. it makes my brain hurt. |
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Jul-30-09
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| kellmano: <JointheArmy: <Well I personnaly think that GM KOROTYLEV should comment in a more respectful way because players are rated at least 100 points higher than him and now better what is going on.>
This. Too many GM's with Rybka think they know everything when they commentate.
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Agreed, but expanded to include non-GMs. |
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Jul-30-09
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| tamar: Vachier Lagrave is a tactical wizard himself.
I wonder if he saw the fatal blow Rxf8+ and considered resigning while Moro thought for five minutes. |
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Jul-30-09
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| gawain: <dTal: Can somebody please tell me what the point of 35 .. a4 was? What's wrong with 36. bxa?> I'm not sure but there is one variation that is amazing. If 36 bxa4 then 36... Bf2 with the threat of 37...Qb4+ and if White were to reply 38 Kd5? then the White king will be frog-marched diagonally into the corner (with the help of the pinned knight) and mated! It is only a hypothetical position but shows the sort of thing that could have happened to White. To illustrate this involves many diagrams but it is so remarkable that I feel it is worthwhile.
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| Jul-30-09 |
| dTal: Neat <gawain>! I think 36. ... Bf2 is the key move and Black has at least a perp. |
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| Jul-31-09 |
| awdunno: From a theoretical standpoint, the most important move of the game is 13.Nf4!? To my knowledge it's never been played before, and Black obviously got into a lot of trouble with 13...e5. Rybka thinks Black can weather the storm after 13...dxe4!? Has anyone found anything special for White here? |
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| Aug-16-09 |
| offramp: Grest gsme. Real VFM. |
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Sep-03-09
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| cu8sfan: <dTal: Can somebody please tell me what the point of 35 .. a4 was? What's wrong with 36. bxa?> According to Maxime Vachier Lagrave in <New in Chess, 2009/6>, the idea is 36.bxa4  b4! 37. c1  c5+!
click for larger viewand now 38.c4 is not possible. Black can now chase the white King around the c5 and draw by perpetual. |
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| Nov-26-09 |
| Al2009: I was there in Biel, playing and watching on the mega-screen at the same time when the game was being played... Now, Morozevich could win without too many complications simply by exchanging the QQ after 23...Bc5 with 24. Qb3+! and now after 24...Qxb3 25. cxb3 Black is hopeless to defend both Nd7 and the 8th file from Rook's mate. If, for instance, 25...Bd4 26. Nxd4 exd4 27. Rxd4, Ra7 28. Rhd1, Rc7+ 28. Kb1 and White recovers the piece and enters a won endgame... But this is the usual flaw in Moro's style: he can find many bright moves, but sometimes he is not able to get out from his own complications |
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| Nov-26-09 |
| WhiteRook48: this is an interesting combination... |
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| Nov-27-09 |
| Al2009: The best chance for Black, after the exchange of Queens above, and after 25. cxb3, probably could be 25...Nf8! 26. Rd8 Bxh3 27. Rxa8 Bg2! 28. Re1! Bxf3 29. Rc8 e4 30. Ne5, but now it's hard for Black to find a viable defence , e.g., if 30...Bf2 31. Nxf3!, Bxe1 32. Nxe1, h5 33. Ng2!, Rh6 34. Nf4 and now zugzwang and Black can just kill himself!:-))) While watching the game and the faces of the two players, nobody in the tournament hall would have put a dime on Vachier Lagreve's chance to free his King + Rook from the terrible grasp by g6 pawn...may be Morozevich was relaxing and too sure to win this game. |
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| Nov-27-09 |
| Al2009: Ah, another interesting and better line for Black, after 29. Rc8 above, instead of 29...e4, could be 29...Bxc6! 30. Rxc6, Nxg6! 31. Rxc5, Nxh4 32. Rxe5, Kf7 33. Re4! White is an exchange up and his endgame is clearly better, but Black can resist for a longtime... |
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