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| Nov-14-10 | | BobCrisp: <Have you ever thought why Mamedyarov nevery plays with Nakamura on ICC? Because he knows that Naka is cheating.> Or because <Mamedyarov> is cheating with Rybka. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | extremepleasure2: It is mamedyarov who declines to play with Nakamura. But here there's no escape. They will meet over the board and Mamedyarov will clean the floors with Naka's face. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | BobCrisp: <It is mamedyarov who declines to play with Nakamura.> Yes, because he knows that Naka can play 90 moves per minute and still beat Rybka. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | extremepleasure2: This is the solid piece of evidence that Naka is cheating on ICC just like David Letterman the boss of ICC. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | BobCrisp: Credit has to go to both players. Considering that Grischuk must have been technically lost from as far back as move 32, to drag the game out for 50+ moves is testimony to great tenacity. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | Marmot PFL: I missed the end but watched it on video. 84...Qf3?, what an awful move. Grischuk immediately looked right across the board in disbelief, then very confidently played 85 Nxe5+. Most of the rest I didn't watch as it was just Nakamrura shaking his head in disgust. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | extremepleasure2: Marmot PFL,
It's exactly at that moment all the past charisma which ICC has created for Nakamura has completely disappeared. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | BobCrisp: Yes, he shook his head so much I thought it was going to fall off. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | extremepleasure2: Q: What it the common thing between Naka and Letterman? A: They chat together and cheat together. |
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Nov-14-10
 | | tamar: Yet more thoughts on 84...Qf3
Another distraction for Nakamura was avoiding the bishop and (2) rook pawn draws And even if he keeps Queens on, tablebase give the following one-sided position as a win in 33 moves. 
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| Nov-14-10 | | Marmot PFL: He may need psychoanalysis after letting two wins slip away like that. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | Kazzak: So - ignore extremewhateverpleasure. That was easily done. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | extremepleasure2: Kazzak,
Are you afraid that you'll lose your free membership to ICC if people feel that you ally with me? Begone you litte bug. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | Skakalec: <extremepleasure2> Would you like to elaborate the cheating mechanism Nakamura is using to me? I don't think I understand what you are saying. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | extremepleasure2: skakalec,
There're numerous ways of cheating on chess sites with computers and other advanced electronic devices. The problem is that those chess sites almost instantly notice if any of the players in the site invoke any of those methods and ground them. But ICC does nothing if the cheater is Nakamura. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | Pyke: <extremepleasure2: skakalec, There're numerous ways of cheating on chess sites with computers and other advanced electronic devices.> What other "advanced electronic devices? Brain probes? <The problem is that those chess sites almost instantly notice if any of the players in the site invoke any of those methods and ground them.> How?
<But ICC does nothing if the cheater is Nakamura.> Why? I know they are very strict on that kind of thing. There have been examples in the past. Why should they make an excuse for Naka? So far you deliverd no evidence what so ever - except your rabious ranting of course. This get's old and tireing. You're just trying to take a cheap shot at Nakamura, that's all - get over it. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | extremepleasure2: Pyke,
Are you a chess player? It's obvious that you're not. Have you seen any chess players on this site opposing the idea that people can cheat on chess sites if chess sites take no action against them, like you? No you haven't and actually you can't either because this is an obvious thing for all the real chess players. FYI no player can make 90 moves within 1 minute as this's physically impossible in the first place. Nakamura, on the other hand, doesn't make just 90 moves in one minute on ICC. He makes 270 reasonably strong moves within 3 minutes that can force such a formidable player like Rybka to resign. If he's so good could you please tell me how on earth he couldn't easily defeat Grischuk in a far superior position by finding the almost the only move (among 6-7 candidate moves) that draws the game? Grischuk is definitely a very good blitz player but for any humans Rybka is a far more dangerous opponent than let's say 10 Grischuks. People are more nervous while playing Rybka than playing against Grischuk. ICC is an American site and Nakamura is an American player. That's why he's given free pass to cheat. ICC tries to create a kind of charisma for him and by doing so it creates an unfair psychological condition for his opponents. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | Pyke: <extremepleasure2>
Nice to know that you answered none of my questions - just a lot of BS. And also thanks for the personal insult - I really appreciate that. You just showed that you're stupid and full of it.
Have a nice day sir! |
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| Nov-14-10 | | extremepleasure2: Pyke,
I have seen many trolls here who have no relation with chess. Come on be a little bit more creative and do something different than them and surprise me a little bit at least. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | Ulhumbrus: In the video broadcast Nakamura looks as if tragedy has struck him, and Grischuk looks sympathetically, as if he understands the misfortune which has struck Nakamura, poor old chap. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | extremepleasure2: Ulhumbrus,
This is nothing. You'll see how Naka's opponents will sweep the floors with his face in this blitz tournament which starts on tuesday. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | Shams: <OD><which brings me to a controversial point, that perhaps Nakamura might benefit from a stint in say Germany playing club chess ?> Agreed. And an elite trainer. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | hedgeh0g: <This is nothing. You'll see how Naka's opponents will sweep the floors with his face in this blitz tournament which starts on tuesday.> Considering Nakamura beat Carlsen in a blitz tournament held in Norway not too long back, I find it hard to believe he'll be the whipping boy here. |
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 | | Domdaniel: <extremepleasure2> Have you even *looked* at his 270-moves game? He reaches a blocked position quickly. Then plays Re8-e7-e8 about 60 times while the comp dithers. Repeat with Bishop. Short, fast *preloaded* moves. Eventually the engine self-destructs, and Nakamura misses a few mates in one while showing off his reflexes. It's totally real and plausible. The cheating idea is delusional. |
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| Nov-14-10 | | Shams: <Domdaniel> When you're done with that, I have a goat out in the yard for whom you can attempt to explicate quantum physics. |
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