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May-05-11 | | Boomie: White seems to have missed a win with 57. Rd2+. Instead, 57. c7 probably wins. 57. c7 Rxc2 58. Nxc2+ Kc5 59. Ne3 f4 60. Nf5 Nc8 61. Ng7 Kd6 62. Ka6 Kxc7 63. Ne6+ Kc6 64. Nxg5 h4 65. Ne6 Nb6 66. a5 h3 67. Nxf4 hxg2 68. Nxg2 This is a tablebase win. |
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May-05-11
 | | OhioChessFan: Has 69. Ne5 been suggested yet? |
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May-05-11 | | haydn20: <OhioChessFan: Has 69. Ne5 been suggested yet?> Shipov suggests it as a winning chance at Chess in Translation. |
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May-05-11
 | | OhioChessFan: <57. c7 Rxc2 58. Nxc2+ Kc5 59. Ne3 f4 60. Nf5 Nc8 61. Ng7 Kd6 62. Ka6 Kxc7 63. Ne6+ Kc6 64. Nxg5 h4 65. Ne6 Nb6 66. a5 h3 67. Nxf4 hxg2 68. Nxg2> Maybe 64...Nb6 65. a5 Nd5?
 click for larger viewI need to buy Rybka. |
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May-05-11
 | | chancho: I really thought Aronian had this game in the bag.
But that Grischuk is one cool customer.
He deserves credit, that's fo sho! |
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May-05-11
 | | OhioChessFan: I get the impression Aronian was frustrated and decided to offer a draw on the board. |
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May-05-11 | | solskytz: (Ohio Chess Fan)
Not necessarily... version 2.3.2, which is an excellent player (it even manages to beat me from time to time!), is downloadable for free. Check it out! |
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May-05-11
 | | OhioChessFan: I'll have to look at the free Rybka. For the moment, I tossed the position in Fritz 10 and at 24 plies he says:
66. Ne6 (1.70)
66. h4 (1.26)
I had thought to tie up the White King with the opposition, unable to get clear of the Rook Pawn, and then the Knights battle to a draw on the Kingside. The idea of Ne6 tells me that the battle might come back to the Queenside anyway. |
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May-05-11 | | Knight13: What was Aronian's plan with 67. Nd3 ? |
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May-05-11
 | | OhioChessFan: To get the game over with. |
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May-05-11
 | | Penguincw: Wow. Aronian missed a win. I thought Aronian would win, but it turns out he was only winning. Grischuk pretty lucky to escape with the draw. He still has at least one more black game against Aronian. |
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May-05-11 | | bladepakkiri: Wouldn't 68. c7 give white a winning position? |
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May-05-11
 | | Penguincw: According to http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail..., Aronian missed a win by playing 69.Nc5??. He should've played 69.Ne5. |
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May-05-11 | | Pygeum Lycopene: i know its probably insane but i was wondering about an exchange sac line with 63.Rc2-Nd5 64.Kd6-Rc2 65.Kd5-Ke7 followed by 66. Nb4 or Nc5. if black grabs the g-pawn 66.Nb4-Rg2 67.Kc5-Kd8 68.Nd5-Rd2 69.a5 and eh.. maybe i need an engine too, to help with these variations. |
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May-05-11 | | notyetagm: Wow, what a disaster for Aronian.
GM Shipov shows win after win for White in his online analysis. http://www.chessintranslation.com/l... |
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May-05-11 | | notyetagm: This link is the future home of Shipov's commentary on Game 1 of the Aronian-Grischuk match. http://www.chessintranslation.com/2... |
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May-05-11 | | Fish55: Nervous-looking endgame play by Aronian. He needs to play much better to have a chance of winning this tournament. |
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May-05-11 | | weepingwarrior: Pygeum Lycopene, Google Houdini Chess And Download The Engine. So Far It's The Best, And It's Free! You Can Also Go To Arena Chess And Download It Too. It's Also Free. |
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May-05-11 | | Damonkeyboy: black couldve won this game |
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May-05-11 | | notyetagm: YERMOLINSKY @ ICC -> https://webcast.chessclub.com/icc/i... |
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May-06-11
 | | kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnN_... |
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May-06-11 | | watchchess79: Looking at Aronian's game, when I was going through the moves it seemed he
played like Vishy for a lot part of the game!! |
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May-06-11 | | Ulhumbrus: <notyetagm: Wow, what a disaster for Aronian. GM Shipov shows win after win for White in his online analysis. http://www.chessintranslation.com/l...
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Perhaps it wasn't enough for Aronian to creep slowly and intricately towards the win, he had to tiptoe infinitesimally and still more intricately towards it. |
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May-06-11 | | lost in space: Thanks god, Aronian is also only a miserable earthling and only cooking with water. |
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Jun-27-13 | | csmath: Don't you love ortodox priests of opening theory, namely Konstantin Sakaev who claimed that 10. ...b6 does not work because of 11. dxc5. Perhaps Sakaev is right. Well, looks like they did not inform Grischuk about that. Or our good old friend Wesley So who also survived the game against Kuloats. Kulaots vs W So, 2010
or Vlastimir Jansa who actually won two games in 1980ies in this variation. This particular game probably follows home analyses up to the move 20. Wesley So continued with inferior plan 14. ... a6 and 15. ... b5 trying to keep pawns connected. Kulaots was not able to undertake any energetic plan and completely fizzled under 30 moves when of course So happily obliged to draw. By the way, Aronian is not much of a endings player. He cannot spot elementary pawn draws. |
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