| Oct-25-12 | | paavoh: A nice combo around move 20 by Black.
Good to see the Winaver succeed. |
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| Oct-27-12 | | hellopolgar: i have a feeling that Friso Nijboer lost this game on purpose. he successfully avoided <all of> the good players (2450+) and won the tournament in the end. the highest players he played against was only around 2420. |
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| Oct-27-12 | | Gryz: If you ever looked at Nijboer's results in the last 20 years, you know that they are very unpredictable. Nice attacking games combined with silly losses. There were only 7 others above 2450, out of the 78 participants. And he did play one of them. (L'Ami, against whom he lost in the last round). Still, going 7 out of 7 in rounds 2-8 was a nice streak. Too bad he couldn't keep the last game a draw. The game was drawish for a long time, but Nijboer kept playing. (Although I can imagine L'Ami refusing any draws, hoping for a (shared) tournament win). Anyway, grats to Nijboer and L'Ami for winning the tournament. |
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| Oct-28-12 | | hellopolgar: sorry i thought it was 8 rounds, i guess it's actually 9 rounds. so he played against one of the seven 2450+ players and lost that game. yet he finished first (with L'Ami)?
something isn't right about this kind of pairing system. |
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| Oct-28-12 | | bystander: 11) ...cd4x does not look like a suitable move in this position. Why would you help white to solve his double pawn. Either 11)..c4 or 11)..0-0 looks better to me. |
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| Oct-28-12 | | bystander: <Oct-25-12 paavoh: A nice combo around move 20 by Black.> Yes, this is a very nice one. I think the trouble for white starts with 19). ♘g5? The knight is driven back the next move. After 20 Nh3 the combination is not possible anymore (White's knight prevents Nf4 and Ne2+). Now black can play a nice combination, wich gives him one pawn up and two free pawns on the queenside. After 24)..Ba4x the game is lost for white. Instead of 19) Ng5 something like 19) ♗d2 ♖c2 20) ♕g4 ♕e7 21) ♖fb1. |
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| Oct-28-12 | | bystander: <Oct-27-12 hellopolgar: i have a feeling that Friso Nijboer lost this game on purpose> The more participants, the more complex it gets to predict pairings in a swiss tournement. |
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Oct-28-12
 | | perfidious: <hellopolgar: i have a feeling that Friso Nijboer lost this game on purpose> Care to share any attempts at substantiation for this typically foolish statement? |
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| Oct-28-12 | | hellopolgar: http://www.chess.com/forum/view/gen... <...This "tactic" is known as a "swiss gambit" and is often used to " back into a prize" without having to face the strongest opposition.> |
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| Oct-28-12 | | hellopolgar: <The swiss gambit usually refers to the (often unintentional) act of losing early so as to play against a number of weaker teams and using big wins against those teams to climb back into contention.> http://thereisonlyme.tripod.com/hhp... |
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Oct-29-12
| | perfidious: Yes, we know the definition of the term 'Swiss Gambit'-it's just that you come off with a statement that you believe Nijboer threw the game. Were you inside his head, thus knowing his every thought? Did he wander over to you before the round and say, 'I'll tell you what, old chap-I need a break, so I think I'll lose to this fish and get easy pairings for a while'? Are you, simply put, a fool? |
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| Oct-29-12 | | hellopolgar: read my original post. i said i have a feeling that he did it. i didn't say he 100% did it. are you saying that only "fools" have feelings? only "fools" suspect wrong doings? well, by your logic, "fools" disqualified Falko Bindrich. http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp...
btw, if not having to face a single 2450+ player until the last round because of this loss isn't enough to raise suspicion, then i don't know what is. |
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| Oct-31-12 | | Wyatt Gwyon: Interesting game. Interesting discussion as well. I'd like to think that Kollen just played well. |
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Kibitzing
sac: 23...Nxc1