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| Jan-15-13 | | Ezzy: <mikelmm: just curious what if 41...Qxb4???> 42 Qg3
1.  (3.12): 42...Re7 43.Qg6+ Kg8 44.Rc8+ Re8 45.Rxe8+ Bxe8 46.Qxe8+ Kh7 47.Qxh5+ Kg8 48.h4 Qe1 49.Qg4 Qe5+ 50.Kh3 Qe1 51.Qf3 Qh1+ 52.Kg4 Qe1 53.Qd5 Qe2+ 54.Kh3 Kh7 55.Qf3 Qe5 56.g3 Kg8 57.Qd3 2. (5.64): 42...Qf8 43.Rf7 Qh8 44.Qg6+ Kg8 45.Ra7 Bc6 46.Qf7+ Kh7 47.Qxh5+ Kg8 48.Qf7+ Kh7 49.Qg6+ Kg8 50.Rc7 Rb8 51.Rxc6 Qh4 52.Qf7+ Kh8 53.Rc3 Qb4 54.Qc7 Qb7 55.Qg3 Qb5 56.Rc7 Qe5 57.Rxg7 Qxg3+ 58.Rxg3 |
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| Jan-15-13 | | Everett: Black's LSB is next to useless, a tribute to Carlsen's play. |
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| Jan-15-13 | | vinidivici: This is good game, how Carlsen knows so broadly many kinds of openings, and he used Ponzi opening in this game, and even sacrificed 2 pawns at the opening. What a guts |
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| Jan-15-13 | | fisayo123: 33.h3 , is what I call paralysis. Black has nothing. |
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| Jan-16-13 | | DoctorC: NXf6 decides the game. |
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| Jan-16-13 | | Chesschatology: <fisayo123> First I totally agree that Carlsen doesn't always play this way, but he does sometimes use this strategy against the best- see yesterday's GOTD against Anand- he plays a theoretically equal main-line Canal attack mainly, I think, to avoid theory. It sort of works- in an unfamiliar position Anand plays poorly and quickly crumbles. And my point isn't a criticism at all. It's the opposite of saying "X relies on opening theory and his computer". I'm saying "Carlsen relies on his raw ability at playing OTB"! I agree that he doesn't seem to take this approach much with Kramnik, perhaps because he believes that Kramnik's positional intuition and flawless technique nullify the approach, and that Kramnik is not a TN knock-out kind of player. <Maatalkko:> Completely agree- nice analysis re: game theory. |
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| Jan-16-13 | | paavoh: <From a game theory point of view, if Carlsen is 150+ points better than Harikrishna at general play but believes that Harikrishna could have something strong prepared against him, it maximizes Carlsen's winning chances to deviate though he may be giving up 0.25 or even 0.5 pawns of theoretical advantage> A very good point, Maatalkko! |
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| Jan-16-13 | | Ezzy: <paavoh: From a game theory point of view, if Carlsen is 150+ points better than Harikrishna at general play but believes that Harikrishna could have something strong prepared against him, it maximizes Carlsen's winning chances to deviate though he may be giving up 0.25 or even 0.5 pawns of theoretical advantage> IMHO I don't think it's possible to prepare against Carlsen because he plays almost everything. |
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| Jan-16-13 | | Landman: 3...d5 has to be the critical test of the Ponziani - Carlsen had to have prepared for that. After 3...Nf6 and 4...d5, they soon reach a position similar to one from the Two Knights defense: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d4 exd4 5.e5 d5 6.Bb5 Ne4 7.Nxd4 ...except White has used his extra tempo (Bf1-b5 instead of Bf1-c4-b5) to play the useful c3. 12.b4 was the novelty, but the real idea behind it is the 2 pawn sac 14.f5!. I suspect this was part of Carlsen(+Nepo)'s preparation. In the time it takes Black to capture pawns on b4 and a2, White builds a huge bind with 19.e6 and 20.Nb3. Perhaps a computer could defend Black's position, but a mere 2700 human will have great difficulties. Bravo Carlsen. |
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| Jan-16-13 | | Ezzy: <GM Evgeny Najer is one of a few high-level players who has been applying Ponziani opening. We asked him to comment on yesterday's Carlsen - Harikrishna encounter in which Norwegian chose the mentioned opening and gained a win. "Carlsen is one of a few elite players who regularly plays side lines, so I guess he didn't surprise anyone by playing Ponziani. Apparently, it's a bit risky to play so against such a theoretic as Kramnik, but it's completely okay to play so against those "made of common clay" for you can get some interesting playing position as it happened in the game; and as you know that's enough for Magnus. I played Ponziani against Romanov (2008) and Sargissian (2012) and both times I got quite promising positions. Gabriel actually spent almost an hour on the first 10 moves! However, it seems to me we shouldn't be expecting the rise of popularity for Ponziani opening because Black actually has a lot of secure continuations in it."> http://chess-news.ru/en/node/10772 |
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| Jan-16-13 | | ajile: It would appear that Black can improve with 9..c5 as in this game: Velimirovic vs N Ostojic, 1993
Here is the cg.com database page:
Opening Explorer |
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| Jan-16-13 | | MOLLOYCHESS: This game reminds me of Carlsen v Howell from the 2011 London Chess Classic. Carlsen vs D Howell, 2011
The way Carslen sacced a couple of pawns but gained a lot of space and stifled any black counterplay. |
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| Jan-16-13 | | kunjankp: 40...Kh8! was a better continuation... |
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| Jan-16-13 | | Everett: <IMHO I don't think it's possible to prepare against Carlsen because he plays almost everything...>.... very well! |
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| Jan-16-13 | | FadeThePublic: Mollychess - totally agree, mentioned that during the live broadcast, the man can play any position and any style, that is what amazes me the most. Position, attacking, defending, tactical, and imho the best endgame player ever at the age of 22! |
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| Jan-16-13 | | parisattack: Wow! Look at Carlson work that c5 square weakness. Five 'changing of the guard' on it during the game - Knight -> Bishop -> Rook -> Queen ->Knight. |
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Jan-16-13
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Jan-17-13
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKUt... |
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Jan-19-13
 | | FSR: Carlsen won with the Ponziani?! Can Alapin's Opening be far behind? And the Grob after that? |
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| Jan-19-13 | | Chessdreamer: Another game in this opening line (11..Nxd2) is Andreas Dueckstein- Wolfgang Unzicker, Siegen ol. 1970: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c3 Nf6 4.d4 d5 5.Bb5 exd4 6.e5 Ne4 7.Nxd4 Bd7 8.Bxc6
bxc6 9.O-O Be7 10.Be3 O-O 11.Nd2 Nxd2 12.Qxd2 c5 13.Ne2 Bb5 14.Rfd1 Bxe2
15.Qxe2 Qd7 16.Qd2 c6 17.b4 cxb4 18.cxb4 Rfb8 19.a3 Rb5 20.Bd4 a5 21.Bc3
axb4 22.axb4 Rab8 23.Ra4 h6 24.Qd4 Bf8 25.h3 Qf5 26.Ra5 R5b6 27.Ra4 Rb5
28.Ra5 R5b6 29.Ra4 Rb5 1/2-1/2 |
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| Jan-19-13 | | morfishine: Rule #1: Always see if you have a useful check, especially when the situation is desperate: Whats wrong with <40...Qf4+> 41.Kh1 Qf1+ 42.Qg1 Qxf5 and if 40...Qf4+ <41.g3>, then 41...Qd2+ 42.Kg1 Ke1+ 43.Kg2 Qe4+ 44.Kf2 Bd1 |
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| Jan-19-13 | | shivasuri4: <morfishine>, after 40...Qf4+, 41.Kg1 Rd8 42.Rc8, white has a good advantage. |
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| Jan-23-13 | | WiseWizard: Why 22. Qf3? |
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| Jan-26-13 | | gabrielxv: Black resigned because is lost after 50-Nxf6, if queen is captured mate with Txf8 :D |
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| Jan-30-13 | | Abdel Irada: Today's pun looks awfully ... familiar.
Is every Ponziani Opening a "Ponziani Scheme"? Or was the punster simply stuck for something more original? If I see this pun again anytime soon, look out. Next you'll see of me, I'll be wandering your local airport, clad in saffron robes, chanting and selling flowers. |
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sac: 30.Nxc6