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|May-12-13|| ||Eyal: <chessdgc2> You can see that in the link that I provided (and it's Eyal, not Eval).|
|May-12-13|| ||chessdgc2: Eval: Of course, I'm not trying to take anything away from Chukky, winning your first 5 in any strong event is great...but I think the rating average in this event is higher than that of what Chukky scored his first 5 wins :)|
|May-12-13|| ||lost in space: Congrats to Karjakin. What an achievement! 4 wins in a row in one tournament.|
|May-12-13|| ||DcGentle: White resigned.|
|May-12-13|| ||Marmot PFL: A couple were the same players as Ivanchuk played. 4 straight wins is a great feat.|
|May-12-13|| ||Tiggler: Karjakin, at the press conference says, "So far, so good."|
|May-12-13|| ||DcGentle: Wow, nobody can say Karjakin can only win against the "lesser" players, whatever this should mean. I bet he will gain more wins in this tournament.|
|May-12-13|| ||schweigzwang: What is the emblem we always see on Karjakin's jackets? A sponsor?|
|May-12-13|| ||Ulhumbrus: 22 f3 loses a tempo for development. This is an important tempo as it turns out, because following the manoeuvre ...Nd6 Black's subsequent moves such as ...Nc4 , ...Qb6 and ...d4 all come with tempo. In addition to this it obstructs the long diagonal for White's king's bishop. After 22 Qd3 at once on 22...Nd6 23 Bg2 White's king's bishop is not obstructed by a pawn on f3|
|May-12-13|| ||Wyatt Gwyon: Karjakin's performance rating is going to be insane.|
|May-12-13|| ||Tiggler: After a few jokes with the commentators, Karjakin immediately says 25 Bxc1 by Aronian was not good, then he also says 26 f4 is wrong, and then that 27 Nc3 was a blunder. Each time he states the alternative, which was the engine move each time. He just walked out of the playing hall straight to the press conference a few minutes earlier.|
|May-12-13|| ||dx9293: <schweigzwang> Yes, that is Karjakin's sponsor. A computer or technology company of some kind.|
When they announced their sponsorship at the press conference there was a banner that said (translated from Russian) "We'll bring the World Championship back to Russia!" or something similar...
|May-12-13|| ||schweigzwang: Oh, you mean Moscow was going to enter a bid too? not just Paris? :)|
|May-12-13|| ||Caissanist: If you look at the two results, I think you would have to say that Ivanchuk's streak was in fact slightly more impressive. Besides wins against Radjabov and Aronian, Chucky beat Topalov, Cheparinov, and Bu Xiangzhi, while Karjakin has defeated Wang Hao and Hammer.|
|May-12-13|| ||Eyal: In any case, Chucky's streak was of five wins. Let's see what Karjakin does tomorrow...|
|May-12-13|| ||perfidious: <DcGentle: Wow, nobody can say Karjakin can only win against the "lesser" players, whatever this should mean....>|
This oft-used, self-serving bit of fluff is straight from Humpty Dumpty.
|May-12-13|| ||FairyPromotion: I'd like to point out that Shirov also started Corus 2010 with 5 wins, although he didn't win any games afterwards: Corus (2010)/Alexey Shirov|
Also not a tournament, but Chucky won his first 6 games in the 2010 Olympiad: Chess Olympiad (2010)/Vassily Ivanchuk
|May-12-13|| ||wordfunph: gracias Sergey! :-)
<1st Norway Tournament rd 4: Aronian-Karjakin : Karjakin [cash in ticket] 100 YOU WIN! COLLECT 1167 11:1 11.67 1,167 May-12-13>
|May-12-13|| ||wordfunph: from chessbase..
<Norway 2013 Rd4: Sergey Karjakin still perfect
12.5.2013 - Sergey Karjakin is on fire and continues his perfect run with four wins in four games after beating Levon Aronian today. When asked the last time he started with 4.0/4 he replied, "Maybe when I was 10 years old".>
|May-13-13|| ||pbercker: < Tiggler: After a few jokes with the commentators, Karjakin immediately says 25 Bxc1 by Aronian was not good, then he also says 26 f4 is wrong, and then that 27 Nc3 was a blunder. Each time he states the alternative, which was the engine move each time. He just walked out of the playing hall straight to the press conference a few minutes earlier.>|
What makes this even more interesting is that neither the post-mortem analysis by Chessbase nor the analysis by Daniel King say anything at all about 25. Bxc1 or about 26. f4 , even though the computer (I used stockfish 3) are quite decisive that both moves are bad, and with 27. Nc3 Stockfish outright says white is essentially lost.
|May-13-13|| ||Eyal: Up to move 17 they repeated the 2nd round game J L Hammer vs Karjakin, 2013, and then Aronian deviated with
18.cxd5 exd5 19.b4 Nc6 20.Rc1 Rc8 21.Bh3 f5 (which is pretty much forced - 21...Rc7? 22.Nxf7! Rxf7 23.Bxc7 Qxc7 24.Be6 or c6). But apparently he didn’t prepare very deeply and didn’t understand the resulting position so well, at least compared to Karjakin. 24.dxe5 (instead of 24.Bxe5), freeing Black’s d-pawn, was quite risky; and 25.Bxc1 (instead of 25.Rxc1) was definitely bad – the idea is to allow 26.f4 in the next move, but apparenly Aronian missed how strong is 26...b5! which prepares d4 by defending Nc4, while gaining a tempo since it attacks the white knight.|
According to Karjakin at the press conference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4aZ...), Aronian told him he didn’t play 25.Rxc1 since he was afraid of 25...Nc4 26.Bxf5 Bg5 (the comp slightly prefers 26...Kh8 - apparently to prevent Bxh7 or Be6 with check in some lines – which is evaluated as approximately equal). Interestingly, Karjakin himself seriously miscalculated here – his main line was 26...g5 27.Bxh7+ Kh8 28.Qg6 gxf4 29.Qh5 Kg7 30.Bd3 Rh8 31.Qg4+ Kf8 32.Qxf4+ Ke8 (where White has 3 pawns for the piece) which he considered to be unclear, but actually 29.Bg8! is winning for White.
|May-13-13|| ||Sleeping kitten: At Linares 1994, Karpov won his first 6 games. And it was a very strong tournament.|
|May-13-13|| ||perfidious: <Sleeping kitten>: There was an author who implied that Karpov's success at Linares was due to his facing most opponents the round after they had to play Kasparov.|
Maybe different flavours of yoghurt were involved somehow, or death rays, or it was that wretched sea air....or some other alibi.
Whatever the reason, that was a virtuoso performance by Karpov: he was the goods.
|May-13-13|| ||Tiggler: <Whatever the reason, that was a virtuoso performance by Karpov: he was the goods.>|
Good enough to explain Fischer's "retirement", perhaps?
|May-14-13|| ||perfidious: <Tiggler> Fischer had that crystal ball at work-he knew, all those years before, of the Zlatoust Brawler.|
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