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Wei Yi vs Alexey Shirov
"Yi Haaaww!" (game of the day Jun-12-2015)
World Cup (2013), Tromso NOR, rd 2, Aug-15
Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation. English Attack (B90)  ·  1-0
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Aug-18-13
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  messachess: This reminds me of Kasparov's losses to several just starting out stars: Svidler, Topalov, Rajabov (at only 16.) Also Judit Polgar's scintillating sac. win with black against Anand comes to mind, also a Sicilian, I think.

Of course, Shirov is not Kasparov (never even close,) and Wei Yi is only 14!!

Aug-18-13  notyetagm: Wei Yi vs Shirov, 2013

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Aug-18-13  notyetagm: Wei Yi vs Shirov, 2013

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Aug-18-13  notyetagm: Wei Yi vs Shirov, 2013

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Aug-19-13  MarkFinan: I had to do a.double take at 14.Qxd6!
It just looked Insane, especially after the bishop sac. You can tell this was all home prep, well at least I've never seen those moves before but I'm hardly someone who studies a particular opening for novelty moves :)
Aug-20-13  paavoh: Impressive - Black does not have pawns to support the usual Q side advance in Sicilian. Interesting imbalance created.
Sep-01-13  Chessman1504: Neat Endgame win by the young Chinese GM, over one of the best modern players as well.
Mar-01-14  Whitehat1963: Amazing win! I love the way he trades his bishop for a couple of pawns so early and later nurses the pawn advantage along for the win. Bold plan.
Jan-29-15  TangoJoseph: Very interesting Wei Li borrows an idea before his time, before his fathers time , maybe from his grandfathers time :) Rauzer vs V Makogonov, 1934
Jun-12-15  ASchultz: Interesting how the opposite colored bishops work here for White. So even though it's 2P vs N, he never really feels down.
Jun-12-15
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  morfishine: Nice win
Jun-12-15
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  kevin86: Black's bishop is about to be wall in like a can of mixed nuts.
Jun-12-15
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  Check It Out: Fun game to look at all the way through. The pawn avalanche is unrelenting.
Jun-12-15
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  Travis Bickle: White plays like a a Super Computer here.
Jun-14-15  Moszkowski012273: No offense to this wonderful game,, but aren't there plenty of stronger moves other than 12.Bxb5...?
Jul-21-15
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  kingscrusher: Moszkowski012273: I am curious to know the basis for your comment - was it engine evaluation?!

The game continuation it seems leads to a slight edge from an engine perspective after 17.Rd4 later - but once the pawns start going, they just increase in strength. My problem with your comment is if it was based on an engine veiw of the position or the dynamics of the pawn advance. I just don't see how engines could calculate the potential of the position that well. What was the basis of your comment ?!

Dec-16-15
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  Sularus: Holy smokes! Balls of steel!
Dec-16-15
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  AylerKupp: Too bad I didn't see this game earlier. I would have suggested "Fire extinguisher on board" as its title.
Dec-16-15
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  AylerKupp: <kingscrusher> Perhaps (to give him the benefit of the doubt) <Moszkowski012273> was simply asking a question for which he had no answer, and certainly no corroborating analysis. I do agree that the way he phrased it seems like a put-down to Yi, but perhaps that was not the case.

So, just for the heck of it, I'll run some engine analyses once I get home starting after 11...Rb8 and see what some engines say.

Dec-16-15
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  Check It Out: I find it interesting that Wei Yi first cleared up matters on the kingside before advancing his queenside armada.
Dec-17-15
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  AylerKupp: <Summary of White's choices after 11...Rb8> (part 1 of 2)


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<Moszkowski012273> above questioned whether there were better moves for White than 12.Bxb5, and <kingscrusher> wanted to know the basis for that implied opinion and whether it was based on engine evaluation. Well, below are the evaluations of 4 engines to try to determine whether White had a better move than 12.Bxb5.

First let me say that this position is relatively rare at the master level. The 365Chess database only has 2 games with this position, this one and the earlier Bologan vs Shirov, 2005, won by Shirov. In the earlier game Bologan also played 12.Bxb5 and after 12...axb5 13.Ndxb5 Qb7 14.Qxd6 Shirov played 14...Be7 instead of 14...Bxd6 and eventually went on to win. So Shirov was certainly familiar with the position through 14.Qxd6, and it's even possible that 14...Bxd6 was the losing move. And, needless to say, countless games have been played with positions similar to the position after 11...Rb8 and the 12.Bxb5 and 12.N4xb5 have been played many times. Of course, the kind of success achieved by White depends on the actual position, but White will likely get 3 pawns for the sacrificed piece.

Back to the original question. Here is a summary of 4 engines' evaluations, sorted in order of descending Ratings Adjusted Average as a result of being White's move, whenever there's more than one engine with an evaluation for that move. The Ratings Adjusted Average is the weighted average of the evaluations using the engine ratings from the Dec-06-15 CCRL 40/40 engine tournament.

a. Moves not reported by the engines as one of their top 3 moves are considered to be null when calculating the averages.

White's Gull 3 Houdini 4 Komodo 9.2 Stockfish 6

Move d=25 d= 30 d= 29 d= 36 <St.Avg> <RAdj.Avg>

-------- -------- ----------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

12.Ncxb5 [------] [+1.14] [+0.91] [------] <[+1.03]> <[+1.00]>

12.Ndxb5 [------] [+1.14] [+0.91] [------] <[+1.03]> <[+1.00]>

12.h3 [+0.29] [+0.50] [+0.53] [+0.28] <[+0.40]> <[+0.42]>

12.Kb1 [+0.27] [+0.31] [+0.53] [+0.28] <[+0.35]> <[+0.37]>

12.Rhe1 [+0.26] [+0.30] [+0.62] [+0.19] <[+0.34]> <[+0.37]>

12.Rhg1 [+0.25] [------] [------] [+0.27] <[+0.26]> <[+0.26]>

12.Bg5 [+0.35] [------] [------] [+0.20] <[+0.28]> <[+0.25]>

b. Moves not reported by the engines as one of their top 3 moves are considered to be evaluated one centipawn less than the move with the lowest evaluation when calculating the averages. This is the best evaluation that the move could receive from the engine and therefore the average evaluations will likely be optimistic since the engine's actual evaluation of the move could be much lower.

White's Gull 3 Houdini 4 Komodo 9.2 Stockfish 6

Move d=25 d= 30 d= 29 d= 36 <St.Avg> <RAdj.Avg>

-------- -------- ----------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

12.Ncxb5 [+0.24] [+1.14] [+0.91] [+0.18] <[+0.62]> <[+0.66]>

12.Ndxb5 [+0.24] [+1.14] [+0.91] [+0.18] <[+0.62]> <[+0.66]>

12.h3 [+0.29] [+0.50] [+0.53] [+0.28] <[+0.40]> <[+0.42]>

12.Kb1 [+0.27] [+0.31] [+0.53] [+0.28] <[+0.35]> <[+0.37]>

12.Rhe1 [+0.26] [+0.30] [+0.62] [+0.19] <[+0.34]> <[+0.37]>

12.Rhg1 [+0.25] [+0.29] [+0.52] [+0.27] <[+0.33]> <[+0.36]>

12.Bg5 [+0.35] [+0.29] [+0.52] [+0.20] <[+0.34]> <[+0.35]>

Dec-17-15
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  AylerKupp: <Summary of White's choices after 11...Rb8> (part 2 of 2)


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And here is a summary of how the 4 engines ranked the moves, without regard for the value of the evaluation.

White's Gull 3 Houdini 4 Komodo 9.2 Stockfish 6

Move d=25 d= 30 d= 29 d= 36 <Avg> <TrueRank>

-------- -------- ----------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

12.h3 2 3 4 1 <2.5> <1>

12.Kb1 3 4 4 1 <3.0> <2>

12.Ncxb5 6 1 1 6 <3.5> <3>

12.Ndxb5 6 1 1 6 <3.5> <3>

12.Bg5 1 6 6 4 <4.3> <4>

12.Rhe1 4 5 5 5 <4.8> <5>

12.Rhg1 5 6 6 3 <5.0> <5>

True Rank: 1 = [ 12.h3 ]; 2 = [ 12.Kb1 ]; 3 = [ 12.Ncb5, 12.Ndxb5 ] ; 4 = [ 12.Bg5 ]; 5 = [ 12.Rhe1, 12.Rhg1 ]. But this ranking is possibly misleading since 2 of the engines did not consider 12.Nxb5 (either knight, since the position will transpose after 12...axb5 and the capture of the Pb5 by the other knight) to be one of White's top 5 moves.

Note that 12.Bxb5 is not evaluated to be one of White's top 5 moves by any of the engines. And 2 of the engines, Houdini 4 and Komodo 9.2, evaluated 12.Nxb5 to be White's best move by a substantial margin. The other 2 engines, Gull 3 and Stockfish 6, did not consider either the knight or bishop sacs on b5 to be one of White's top 5 moves and preferred quieter continuations, although they did not achieve the high evaluations that Houdini and Stockfish achieved with 12.Nxb5. It would be interesting to force 12.Nxb5 into Gull and Stockfish to see how they evaluate it.

So at this point, according to these engines, <Moszkowski012273> is correct in wondering whether White has "plenty" of better moves than 12.Bxb5 (I'll let others decide whether "plenty" is appropriate here). But to reach a definitive conclusion we have to look at the positions after 12.Bxb5 and slide forward somewhat. If, as <kingscrusher> indicated, at least one engine shows a slight edge for White after 17.Rd4, then unless 16...Rxb7 is a better move than 16...Bxb7, then 14...Bxd6 is certainly a questionable move since all the other moves are pretty much forced.

I won't bother posting the details of each of the lines since that didn't seem to be the point of <Moszkowski012273>'s question unless someone is curious and wants to see them. Let me know if you do and which lines you'd like to see.

Dec-18-15
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  AylerKupp: <Summary of Black's choices after 12.Bxb5> (part 1 of 2)


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In my previous posts (Wei Yi vs Shirov, 2013 (kibitz #54) and Wei Yi vs Shirov, 2013 (kibitz #55)) I showed that none of the 4 engines I used to analyze the position after 11...Rb8 considered 12.Bxb5 to be among their top 5 moves, and their evals ranged from [+1.14] to [+0.19] (more on this later). So how do these 4 engines evaluate the move actually played, 12.Bxb5?

Here is a summary of the same 4 engines' evaluations, sorted in order of ascending Ratings Adjusted Average as a result of being Black's move, whenever there's more than one engine with an evaluation for that move :

a. Moves not reported by the engines as one of their top 5 moves are considered to be null when calculating the averages.

White's Gull 3 Houdini 4 Komodo 9.2 Stockfish 6

Move d=25 d= 30 d= 30 d= 40 <St.Avg> <RAdj.Avg>

-------- -------- ----------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

12...axb5 [-0.16] [0.00] [0.00] [+0.00] <[-0.04]> <[-0.02]>

12...Qb7 [+0.86] [+0.66] [+0.92] [+0.91] <[+0.84]> <[+0.85]>

12...e5 [+1.03] [+0.98] [+1.27] [+1.13] <[+1.10]> <[+1.13]>

12...Be7 [+1.43] [+1.81] [+1.53] [+1.76] <[+1.63]> <[+1.65]>

12...Bb7 [+1.43] [------] [+1.61] [+1.85] <[+1.63]> <[+1.67]>

12...Rb6 [------] [+1.81] [------] [------] <[+1.81]> <[+1.81]>

b. Moves not reported by the engines as one of their top 5 moves are considered to be evaluated one centipawn less than the move with the lowest evaluation when calculating the averages. This is the best evaluation that the move could receive from the engine and therefore the average evaluations will likely be optimistic since the engine's actual evaluation of the move could be much lower.

White's Gull 3 Houdini 4 Komodo 9.2 Stockfish 6

Move d=25 d= 30 d= 30 d= 40 <St.Avg> <RAdj.Avg>

-------- -------- ----------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

12...axb5 [-0.16] [0.00] [0.00] [0.00] <[-0.04]> <[-0.02]>

12...Qb7 [+0.86] [+0.66] [+0.92] [+0.91] <[+0.84]> <[+0.85]>

12...e5 [+1.03] [+0.98] [+1.27] [+1.13] <[+1.10]> <[+1.13]>

12...Be7 [+1.43] [+1.81] [+1.53] [+1.76] <[+1.63]> <[+1.65]>

12...Bb7 [+1.43] [+1.82] [+1.61] [+1.85] <[+1.68]> <[+1.70]>

12...Rb6 [+1.44] [+1.81] [+1.62] [+1.86] <[+1.68]> <[+1.71]>

Dec-18-15
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  AylerKupp: <Summary of Black's choices after 12.Bxb5> (part 2 of 2)


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And here is a summary of how the 4 engines ranked the moves, without regard for the value of the evaluation.

White's Gull 3 Houdini 4 Komodo 9.2 Stockfish 6

Move d=25 d= 30 d= 30 d= 40 < Avg> <TrueRank>

-------- -------- ----------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

12...axb5 1 1 1 1 <1.0> <1>

12...Qb7 2 2 2 2 <2.0> <2>

12...e5 3 3 3 3 <3.0> <3>

12...Be7 4 4 4 4 <4.0> <4>

12...Bb7 5 6 5 5 <5.3> <5>

12...Rb6 6 5 6 6 <5.8> <6>

True Rank: In the order listed.

A remarkable uniformity. All 4 engines agree on their top 4 moves and their ranking, and 3 out of the 4 engines agreed on their top 5 moves and their ranking. I don't recall ever seeing a uniform agreement such as this before.

And clearly 12...axb5 is Black's best move, with a large gap in the evaluations between this move (approximately even) and the other moves (White having a significant advantage to a winning advantage). And the gap in the evaluation of 12.Bxb5 compared to the evaluation of other White moves, while not great, seems significant, from [+0.35] to [+0.66] based on their Ratings Adjusted Averages when the best possible evaluation for those moves not listed by the engines to be among their top 5 moves are included in the averages. So, as far as these 4 engines are concerned and without additional forward sliding, there are "plenty" of better moves for White than 12.Bxb5.

So why did Yi play 12.Bxb5 if the evaluations were not that favorable for White? As I indicated earlier, this position has not appeared many times at the master level, and both of the games I found has Shirov playing Black. While Bogolan in Bologan vs Shirov, 2005 in 2005 might not have had access to top engines (engines have improved a lot from 2005 to 2013), I would think that Yi did, even in China. So I suspect that Yi had some "home cooking" ready against Shirov if Shirov duplicated his moves against Bogolan (a game which, after all, he won). Shirov, probably suspecting this, deviated from his game against Bogolan after 12...axb5 13.Ndxb5 Qb7 14.Qxd6 by playing 14...Bxd6 instead of the 14...Be7 he played against Bogolan (probably found OTB). And unless we ask Yi (and assuming that he's willing to discuss it), we'll never know what he had in mind had Shirov played 14...Be7. But this is all pure conjecture on my part.

So it's time to start sliding forward to see if these engines continue to agree in their evaluations and move rankings after a few more moves.

Sep-17-16  mikealando: of piece sacrifices on b5 followed by winning pawn storms Karpov vs Anand, 1998
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