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Sep-01-13 | | MrSpock: Black can also move his e-pawn e6-e5-e4. |
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Sep-01-13 | | Ulhumbrus: <watwinc: <Ulhumbrus> After 13 ... b5 14 Be2 Rd2 White has 15 Rc1, and the Black bishop on c8 is potentially hanging after piece exchanges on the c-file> On 13...b5 14 Be2 Rd2 15 Rac1 Bxc3 16 Bxc3 Rxe2 White's queen's rook is obstructed but let us take this a little further: 17 Rfd1 ( threatening 18 Rd8+ Ne8 19 Rxe8 mate) 17...Nc6 18 Nb4 Bb7 19 Nxc6 Bxc6 20 Bxf6 gxf6 21 Rxc6 Rxa2 winning a pawn. On 13...b5 14 Be2 Rd2 Black has a double threat, that of 15...Rxc2 and that of 15...Bxc3 followed by 16...Rxe2 |
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Sep-01-13
 | | Domdaniel: The response to ...b5 is "Schnopety-schnop", according to Short. Translation: Bxf6 and Nc5. |
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Sep-01-13 | | Gypsy: <15. Na4...> Most interesting. (I did not think this was really possible, because of 15...b5. Time to figure out the tricks and tricks.) |
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Sep-01-13 | | Ulhumbrus: Kramnik has found something: the N heads for c5. However on 15...b5 16 Nc5 bxc4 17 Bxf6 gxf6 18 Nxd7 axb3 19 axb3 Bc3! 20 Rac1 (One way for White to lose is 20 Ra4 Ra7 21 Rc4 Ra7xd7 22 Rxd7 Rxd7 23 Rxc3 Rd1+ 24 Ne1 Rxe1 mate) 20...Ra7 21 Nc5 a5 may lead to no more than a draw. |
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Sep-01-13 | | Gypsy: <14.Na4> b5 15.Bxf6 gxf6 16.Nc5... and, less forcing now, say 16...Ra7 17.Be2... or 17.NxB 18.R7xN 19.RxR RxR 20.Be2... White end up with good play. |
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Sep-01-13 | | Gypsy: <or 17.NxB 18.R7xN 19.RxR RxR 20.Be2...> Yuck, this has tactical holes at the end. But 17.Be2 (or 17.Bf1) seems strategically preferable anyway. (Seems to me, White is complicating -- for the win.) |
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Sep-01-13
 | | Domdaniel: 15...b5 played. We shall see how it turns out... |
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Sep-01-13 | | PinnedPiece: My goodness they are far along for 19 moves in modern super grandmaster chess. I think Kramnik worked much of this sequence out before Bxc4. |
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Sep-01-13 | | Ulhumbrus: 18...Bc3 instead of the intermediate 18...cxb3 may be a mistake because now 19...cxb3 can be answered with 20 Rxb3 and Black's KB is short of squares if it is tied to the defence of the f6 pawn |
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Sep-01-13 | | Ulhumbrus: After 20 ...cb 21 ab a5 may draw. Perhaps Andreikin wants more after 22 Nxb4 Bxb4 but on 23 Ne4 both the f6 and c4 pawns are attacked |
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Sep-01-13 | | Ulhumbrus: The game appears to head for a draw |
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Sep-01-13 | | Sihlous: You would have to try pretty hard to lose this for either side now. |
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Sep-01-13
 | | Domdaniel: It's a draw now, no? |
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Sep-01-13 | | Gypsy: A couple of in-between moves (18...Bc3 and 21...Nb4(!)) and seems more than fine. |
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Sep-01-13
 | | Domdaniel: Yep, they've agreed a draw. |
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Sep-01-13 | | Gypsy: <Domdaniel: It's a draw now, no?> Yup. |
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Sep-01-13 | | Ulhumbrus: <Sihlous: You would have to try pretty hard to lose this for either side now.> Here is one way to try: 27...Rb4 28 Rc6 Rxb3 29 Rxa6 Rb1 mate |
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Sep-01-13 | | technical draw: This is like the never ending tournament. So what happens now? |
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Sep-01-13 | | waustad: <td>Probably they draw tomorrow and Kramnik wins it all. Should Andreikin win tomorrow, they go to tiebreaks. In any case it will soon be over. Should they go to tiebreaks, they will begin 3 hours earlier on Tuesday. |
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Sep-01-13 | | technical draw: Thanks, <waustaud>. |
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Sep-01-13 | | whiteshark: If it ends tomorrow I'm fine with it. |
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Sep-01-13 | | csmath: This is one strange game on the side of Kramnik but it is nice he is trying to be creative. |
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Sep-01-13 | | visayanbraindoctor: Something seems to have gone wrong for Kramnik in the opening once again. I just saw him in the Tromso World Cup video and he looked unhappy over his opening play in this game. |
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Sep-01-13 | | csmath: Well, obviously he has given an easy draw to Andreikin without Andreikin doing anything. Even the forced sequence was quite obvious for Andreikin. Lately Kramnik tries to play tactics more often than what he was doing few years back. This could be influence of chess engines or he just feels like it. Now these are already two games he was doing that but went unpunished. |
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