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|Jul-15-15|| ||mruknowwho: This is entertaining. I love games with strange, unpredictable moves.|
|Jul-15-15|| ||dunican: So could someone explain, in general terms, what's the point of this exchange line? It seems so counter-intuitive, especially with not taking 9..Bxe4.|
|Jul-15-15|| ||leow: I also wonder why not 9..Bxe4 I smell a rat but can't see it|
|Jul-15-15|| ||nullmove: 16. Nf4 was the careless move, ceding control of d4. Required was 16. Bxb4 first.|
|Jul-15-15|| ||goodevans: <nullmove: 16. Nf4 was the careless move, ceding control of d4. Required was 16. Bxb4 first.>|
... except that that falls foul of <...fxe4>. white was in a bind and <16.Nf4> was an attempt to make some room.
|Jul-15-15|| ||LivBlockade: Here's another game in this line: B Adhiban vs Nakamura, 2015|
|Jul-15-15|| ||kevin86: Black wins the queen...and the game!|
|Jul-15-15|| ||Sneaky: Woah! I never knew that 7.Nxb5 was even possible!
Oh no, this means there's one more opening variation I have to know about. Based only by this game, learning how to play the White side of this doesn't look like a whole lot of fun.
Curse these players coming up with new ideas.
|Nov-12-16|| ||MariusDaniel: Very nice game!|
|Mar-02-19|| ||devere: It seems that the problem should be for Black's 20th move, not White's.|
|Mar-02-19|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: Agree with <devere>. At least have an excuse for not coming even remotely close to solving this one.|
|Mar-02-19|| ||NBZ: I treated it as a defence puzzle. 20. gxf3 Rxf3+ was just too scary to contemplate, so I settled for 20. Nxf8 planning to meet 20. ... fxg2 with 21. Rg1.|
|Mar-02-19|| ||al wazir: You don't often see positions like that outside of correspondence matches. I didn't even try to solve it. As it was misstated, I'm glad I didn't waste my time.|
But what a brawl!
|Mar-02-19|| ||devere: < NBZ: I treated it as a defence puzzle. 20. gxf3 Rxf3+ was just too scary to contemplate, so I settled for 20. Nxf8 planning to meet c with 21. Rg1>|
According to SF 20. Nxf8 is indeed best, but after 20. ... fxg2 21.Re1 is essential, so as to allow for ...Qf6+ 22.Kg1. After 21.Re1 White has a very difficult position to try to hold, so this is not really a good defence puzzle.
|Mar-02-19|| ||scormus: my first reaction when I saw W to play was, how on earth is W supposed to win from here?|
Then I noticed she didn't. Is there a missed win, or even a draw? I wondered about 20 gxf3 but didn't like the look of ... Rxf3+. So I thought the same as <NBZ> 20 Nxf8 is the only playable move. Even so, it's a mess
|Mar-02-19|| ||Whitehat1963: WOW! It must be Sunday. Where’s Meet the Press?|
|Mar-02-19|| ||Pawn Slayer: Great. Spent an hour looking for the missed win for white, but could find nothing better than Nxf8 with some drawing chances in a clearly inferior position. Then I found that there wasn't a missed win, so the puzzle was a bit misleading.|
|Mar-02-19|| ||drollere: Nxf8. wins the exchange, removes the threat of discovered check, simplifies the position. that's a threefer.|
|Mar-02-19|| ||whiteshark: <Pawn Slayer: .. so the puzzle was a bit misleading.> That's a bit understated.|
c h e s s g a m e s . c o m
has ruined my life - but at least 5 minutes of this Saturday.
|Mar-02-19|| ||agb2002: White has a rook for a knight and two pawns.|
Black threatens fxe2+, fxg2+ and Qxe2+.
White has gxf3 and Nxf8.
The obvious move is 20.gxf3 but is met with 20... Rxf3+ 21.Kxf3 Ne5+ with attack.
The alternative 20.Nxf8 seems to result in an unclear ending after 20... fxe2 21.Qxe2 Qxe2+ 22.Kxe2 Kxf8.
I don't know. I'd probably play 20.Nxf8.
|Mar-02-19|| ||mel gibson: White to play and lose? -
I don't get it.
|Mar-02-19|| ||spazzky: computer likes Nxf8, but the problem stays a half move too soon|
1) -0.77 (26 ply) 20.Nxf8 fxg2 21.Re1 Bxe1+ 22.Qxe1 Nd4 23.Rd1 g1=B+ 24.Kxg1 Nxe2+ 25.Kf1 Nd5 26.Qxe2 Qxe2+ 27.Kxe2 Nc3+ 28.Kd2 Nxd1 29.Kxd1 Kxf8 30.Kd2 Be4 31.Kc3 Bd3 32.Bd2 Kf7 33.Kd4 Ke6 34.Bc3 g6 35.Bd2 Kf5 36.Be3 Ke6
|Mar-02-19|| ||lost in space: I have no clue how white should win or draw this with best play from both sides.|
|Mar-02-19|| ||morfishine: Huh??
Problem or Spoiler?
|Mar-02-19|| ||Cheapo by the Dozen: I'm glad I quit on this "puzzle" fairly quickly.|
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