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Magnus Carlsen vs Ding Liren
Gashimov Memorial (2018), Shamkir AZE, rd 9, Apr-29
Four Knights Game: Spanish. Rubinstein Variation Accepted (C48)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Apr-28-18
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  B33 player: DJ Bai vs Ding Liren, 2017 is powerful,too.
Apr-28-18
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  B33 player: Ding Liren vs Aronian, 2013
Apr-28-18
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  B33 player: Come on,Ding!Carlsen vs Ding Liren, 2017
Apr-28-18
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  offramp: It's the first time I've seen a game drawn before any of the moves have been broadcast.
Apr-28-18  Steve.Patzer: It must be a protest not to post the moves?
Apr-28-18
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  offramp: Daniel Freeman is currently in a business meeting.

He is in talks with Tom Hardy and Bob Willis about opening a shoe shop.

Apr-28-18
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  chancho: Samuel Shankland said in his interview with Maurice Ashley that if someone wanted a quick draw they played the Four Knights.

Well....

Apr-28-18
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  perfidious: It takes two to agree to a draw, and the one drawback of the Rubinstein is that White has 5.Nxd4 exd4 6.e5, which either leads to strong attacking chances if the pawn on offer is incautiously accepted, or the game heads straight for the peaceful ending of the type reached here.
Apr-28-18
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Perfidious:

As I never had a chance to comment on this thriller whilst it was still in play, thought I'd pre-empt a question if someone happens to read:

"...leads to strong attacking chances if the pawn on offer is incautiously accepted."

The pawn on offer is here with Black to play:


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If Black should nick a pawn with 7...cxd2+ before taking on f6 then White gets a ferocious attack as in:

Posch vs Dorrer, 1957

This is a good excuse to show that game because it has only two short comments (by the same poster) and the finish is definitely a Monday POTD material.

White to play.


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Apr-28-18
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  chancho: Double check and mate...
Apr-28-18
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  Sally Simpson: Correct!
Apr-28-18
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  keypusher: <ss/chancho> That would bring a smile to any Monday.
Apr-28-18
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  AylerKupp: <<OhioChessFan> I predict a Four Knights.>

Good call. But the game made me long for <whiteshark>'s "thrilling Petrov".

Apr-28-18
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  AylerKupp: <<Stonehenge> Following Cortlever vs Szabo, 1946.>

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

Apr-28-18
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  FSR: Geez. At least Carlsen could have played 5.Bc4 to give the spectators a little excitement before a draw was reached. A Liang vs Y Zherebukh, 2018 But I did make some money by placing the maximum possible bet on a draw in the ChessBookie Game.
Apr-28-18
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  FSR: Another game where Black grabbed the pawn with 7...cxd2+ is J Shipman vs Weber, 1985. Weber got grilled.
Apr-28-18  DansChessLounge: I wish Ding Liren would have played more ambitiously! It's like he was alright with Carlsen making an easy draw SMH! For analysis of the game check out the video --> https://youtu.be/HfFPfFD_1bc
Apr-28-18
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  Count Wedgemore: <DansChessLounge: I wish Ding Liren would have played more ambitiously! It's like he was alright with Carlsen making an easy draw>

I think this post by <AylerKupp> on the Gashimov Tournament page may explain Ding Liren's unambitious play in this game. He wanted to secure sole 2nd place in order to gain more prize money:

<AylerKupp: Let's see. If Carlsen and Ding Liren draw, Carlsen with 6.0 points is assured of first place and € 30,000 and Ding Liren with 5.5 points is assured of second place and € 20,000. If Ding Liren goes all out (with Black!) and tries to win but loses, with 5.0 points he might tie with as many as 4 other players;>

Apr-28-18
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  Penguincw: And well, neither side pushed for a win, but I can't blame them.
Apr-28-18
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  morfishine: Go ahead, speculate all you want, its totally unverifiable, so its perfectly useless and is = zero

Good Day

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Apr-28-18  Justin796: Chess is fixed.
Apr-28-18  ozmikey: Good to see that fighting chess is not dead.
Apr-28-18  csmath: This game is not worth any analysis. The only question I have is whether this was prearranged. Probably not but it does look that way. Junk chess.
Apr-29-18  Viktorerro: Wow, exciting chess.

The two protagonist' chess pieces were like seasoned dancers, their moves are dancing in unison, to the tune of Ravel's BOLERO.

NA BOLA mga Hunghang. Hehehehehe.

May-01-18  justwatcher: Very nice to look at but it has been obviously and previously agreed upon to be a draw!
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