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|Apr-12-06|| ||ahmadov: Does anyone know how the Trompowsky opening is played?|
|Apr-12-06|| ||Parriotblue: 1.d4; Nf6, 2.Bg5 its the moves of the Trompowsky opening.|
|Apr-13-06|| ||ahmadov: <Parriotblue> Thanks a lot. You must be a master of this opening. You probably play it frequently.|
|Apr-13-06|| ||JustAFish: I've been playing the Trompowky opening a lot recently and have found it to be a lot of fun.|
The main line goes 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 Ne4 3. Bf4 ... followed by white playing f3 (ejecting the knight) and e4. White gets great development and a massive pawn center at the slight expense of a drafty king. Black can fight back with ... c5 and pick apart white's center if white plays passively.
The main question now, for me, is what to do when black does NOT play 2 ... Ne4. If black plays ...g6 or ...d5, I usually take the knight and furiously attack black's exposed king hoping to get some other concessions in the process. The doubled pawns actually provide some protection to the castled black king, so the objective is to keep black from castling for as long as possible. If black plays 2 ...e6 I have the option of transposing into a queen's gambit declined/Nimzo-indian type formation or going full on Trompowsky with e4, which leads to interesting two edged games.
I haven't yet read a book on this opening, but intend to in the future. For now, I'm exploring the possibilities on my own.
|Jun-22-06|| ||Whitehat1963: Is this the longest name in the database?|
|May-16-07|| ||Themofro: <Whitehat1963> From the lateest cg.com newsletter:|
Longest name: <Count Grigory Alexandrovich Kushelev-Bezborodko>, with 47 letters. However, his name is inflated somewhat with the title of "count", so arguably it should only "count" for 41 letters, in which case the winner would be none other than <Lionel Adalbert Bagration Felix Kieseritsky> with 43 letters.
Honorable mentions: Below is a list of other players who have names as big as their games.
<Dr. Jana Malypetrova Hartston Miles Bellin
Mikhail Aleksandrovich Bonch-Osmolovsky
Pierre Charles Fournier de Saint Amant
Octavio Figueira Trompowsky de Almeida
Conrad Waldemar Vitzthum von Eckstaedt>
|May-16-07|| ||Benzol: <Themofro> Surely the 'Mighty Baron' deserves a mention
Baron Tassilo Heydebrand und der Lasa|
|May-16-07|| ||Maatalkko: <Benzol> I'm not sure that his "name is as big as his game", since he had a pretty good game goin on.|
|May-17-07|| ||Benzol: <Maatalkko> Quite so!|
|May-19-07|| ||Themofro: <Benzol> Yes i guess he does. That was the list in the latest cg.com newletter, so i can't claim credit for it. I don't think cg.com was really serious with it's names as big as their games phrase, was just trying to be amusing. It is worth noting though that other players on the list also were quite good. |
Lionel Kieseritsky was world number 1 for 23 months according to http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Play..., people just always remember him for the immortal game and nothing else, sadly.
Saint Amant was number 2 behind Staunton for quite a while according to chessmetrics again, http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Play... not a bad place to be.
and us course der Lasa was another of the early greats in the 19th century, just posted his chessmetrics profile on his home page if you want to look at it there.
|Nov-05-07|| ||Karpova: More on the Trompowsky opening:
|Nov-30-09|| ||Infohunter: <BaranDuin: The name Trompowsky sounds very Russian.
Did he have ancestors who came from there>
<ahmadov: <BaranDuin> I think Trompowsky is Jew because of the "w" in his surname. Russians usually use "v" in such cases.>
You can't tell for certain by the spelling. Russian is written in the Cyrillic alphabet, so every language that uses the Roman alphabet has a slightly different "take" on how a Russian name ought to be spelled in transliteration. For example, we English-speakers typically follow the French example in rendering the name of "Alekhine"; in German, however, his name is spelled "Aljechin".
As for Trompowsky, the spelling is consistent with a German transliteration; English would have placed a 'v' where the 'w' goes. For that matter, so would Portuguese or Spanish, as the letter 'w' is seen as alien by those languages.
|Nov-30-09|| ||vonKrolock: the link to the brasilbase article with photo etc is now http://www.brasilbase.pro.br/jtromp...|
also online <"Uma Pequena Homenagem">, a 'litle tribute', in Portuguese, by J. Chaves http://www.xadrezdemestre.kit.net/T...
<Trompowsky> From Polish aristocracy, it seems: In the XIX-th Century first half, a <von Trompowsky> was in Rio de Janeiro as representative of Poland (under Russian rule). His daughter Ana Elizabeth became the matriarch of the T. Leitão de Almeida and Figueira T. de Almeida families.
|Nov-30-09|| ||DarthStapler: "was was born", eh?|
|Nov-30-09|| ||WhiteRook48: 2 Bg5 is my favorite move on the board|
|Nov-30-09|| ||waustad: <darth>I know it is easy to comment. Sadly, it is so easy to make that sort of error. If you write a lot you know. After making many of those sorts of errors, I try to restrain myself. Getting the second edition of a book back from the copy editor is a humbling experience.|
|May-28-10|| ||rich187113: I play the Trompowsky attack a lot, but I find the Raptor variation to be the best which is 1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5 Ne4 3.h4.|
|Dec-13-10|| ||Antiochus: O XADREZ|
Com a lira de um píndaro grego,
Xadrez, eu quisera cantar-te!
Por ser jogo, ser ciência e ser arte,
Apaixonas ao sábio e ao lábrego.
É a Dama a Rainha do jogo,
E as torres seu forte baluarte.
Os Bispos invocam a Marte,
Esgriminando suas lanças de fogo!
Abertura...os Peões...o Gambito...
O Roque...a Trampa...um grito
Cheque ao Rei, que...foge ao combate!
Cavalos saltam como os de pólo,
Há uma troca: peças ao solo,
E outra vez anuncia: CHEQUE-MATE.
E de Octavio Figueira Trompowsky de Almeida
|Sep-14-11|| ||wordfunph: <Apr-12-06 ahmadov: Does anyone know how the Trompowsky opening is played?>|
Trompowsky 1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5
<The Trompowski is closely related to the Veresov and again White's main strategical idea is to downgrade Black's pawn structure by the exchange ♗ to ♘ and then solidify the center with the pawn triangle c3, d4, e3, which simultaneously diminishes the value of Black's bishops while enhancing that of the knights which, of course, show to their best in closed positions.>
taken from the book Trompowski Opening and the Torre Attack by Robert Bellin..
|Sep-15-12|| ||Antiochus: Life and games:
|Nov-30-12|| ||brankat: He of the Trompovsky Opening (attack)!
|Nov-30-12|| ||grasser: Why do I feel scammed?|
|Nov-30-13|| ||Gottschalk: His brother, Armando, had a very succesful militar career
|Jun-18-14|| ||zanzibar: Why is it known as the Trompovsky Opening and not the Figueira Opening?|
Wait, I can answer that - because the Portuguese/Brazilian naming convention is different from the Spanish naming convention.
But beware - the matronymic is usually the first surname, followed by the patronymic, but it can be reversed.
And in addressing a person, the last surname is used - but for purposes of sorting, it's the first surname that gets used.
Is it really possible to accommodate all these different conventions in one database?
|Nov-22-14|| ||greed and death: <vonKrolock: the link to the brasilbase article with photo etc is now http://www.brasilbase.pro.br/jtromp...
also online <"Uma Pequena Homenagem">, a 'litle tribute', in Portuguese, by J. Chaves http://www.xadrezdemestre.kit.net/T...|
<Trompowsky> From Polish aristocracy, it seems: In the XIX-th Century first half, a <von Trompowsky> was in Rio de Janeiro as representative of Poland (under Russian rule). His daughter Ana Elizabeth became the matriarch of the T. Leitão de Almeida and Figueira T. de Almeida families.>
The other possible explanation relates to the fact that a lot of Polish emigrants settled in Brazil in the late-1800's/early 1900's. Trompowsky could have been the children of one of these emigrants (who likely married a local Brazilian, based in the name).
However, AFAIK, most of the Polish emigrants settled in the northern part of Brasil, and the bio says Trompowsky was born in Rio. Given that Rio was still Brasil's capital at the time of his birth, I'd say the story that he was descended from an ambassador was much more likely.
As an aside, if I remember my history claases correctly, the number of Polish emigrants to Brasil was so great that in the 1920's (following a resurgence of Polish nationalism due to Poland's new independence) that Polish settlers in the North of Brasil at one time considered breaking away and forming their own (Polish-speaking) country, which triggered some repressions from the Brasilian government.
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