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Biel 2017 Moves Prediction Contest

<Main Focus>: Predicting how many moves in a game for each pairing. tournament page:
Biel (2017)

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[player]-[player] [result] [# of MOVES]

==4 Different Scoring Methods==

Standard Moves Ranker (1st place-Over[3pts], 1st place-Under [7pts], Exact [10pts])

Bonus Ranker (3rd place-Over[1pts],2nd place-Over[2pts],3rd place-Under [5pts], 2nd place-Under [6pts]

Standard Moves/Bonus Ranker [Add all to together]

1st place Ranker [how many 1st place you have in Standard Moves Ranker]

For example:

<Note: Participants 3, 4, and 5 are predicated on nobody scoring an exact as Participant 2 did. If someone hits an exact, the closest score under and over will score the points for second place.>

Actual Game: [player]-[player] 0-1 45

Participant 1: [player]-[player] 1/2 45
Participant 2: [player]-[player] 0-1 45
Participant 3: [player]-[player] 0-1 44
Participant 4: [player]-[player] 0-1 43
Participant 5: [player]-[player] 0-1 46

Participant 1: No points even though 45 is correct. Results must be correct. If Result is wrong and moves # is get no points whatsoever

Participant 2: 10 pts rewarded for correct Result/moves #

Participant 3: 7 pts rewarded for closest under (1st-Under) to 45 moves

Participant 4: 6 pts rewarded for the 2nd closest under (2nd-Under) to 45 moves.

Participant 5: 3 pts rewarded closest OVER(1st-OVER) to 45 moves.

Again, the description of Participant 3, 4, and 5 are based on there being no exact prediction as made by Participant 2.

<IF> there is an exact or an under closest, the highest scoring over participant will be 2nd over. The second closest over will be 3rd over. The <ONLY> time there will be a first over is if there is no exact or under winner. Bold strategy

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Moves Prediction Contest

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  OhioChessFan: Round 9 games have started.
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  OhioChessFan: I know I'm in a minority, but I do prefer this contest to the Games Prediction Contest. As one example why, a gold medal for picking a grand total of 2 decisive games out of 45? Yawn.
Aug-11-17  chessmoron: ♔ Sinquefield 2017: <FINAL Round> Result ♔

<Carlsen-Aronian, 1-0 in 52 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['Robin01', '1-0', '42']]
2nd Under, 6 points: []
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []


<MVL-Nepo, 1-0 in 52 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['OhioChessFan', '1-0', '42']]

2nd Under, 6 points: [['juan32', '1-0', '41'], ['bubuli55', '1-0', '41']]

3rd Under, 5 points: [['chessmoron', '1-0', '40'], ['Golden Executive', '1-0', '40']]

Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['offramp', '1-0', '58']]
3rd Over, 1 point1: []


<Nakamura-Karjakin, 1/2-1/2 in 34 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['OhioChessFan', '1/2-1/2', '31'], ['SwitchingQuylthulg', '1/2-1/2', '31']]

2nd Under, 6 points: []
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['Robin01', '1/2-1/2', '35']]

3rd Over, 1 point1: [['alfamikewhiskey', '1/2-1/2', '36']]


<So-Anand, 1/2-1/2 in 33 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['SwitchingQuylthulg', '1/2-1/2', '30'], ['WinKing', '1/2-1/2', '30']]

2nd Under, 6 points: []
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['Golden Executive', '1/2-1/2', '35']]

3rd Over, 1 point1: [['chessmoron', '1/2-1/2', '38']]


<Svidler-Caruana, 1-0 in 44 moves.>--No one got it!

Aug-11-17  chessmoron: FINAL Round Summary:

Perfect # moves predictions for this round goes to:


Highest scores in the Bonus Ranker: 7 points: <Golden Executive>


Moves Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID, Over, Under, Exact

♔ 52, WinKing, 0, 6, 1
♘ 44, wordfunph, 3, 5, 0
♗ 41, SwitchingQuylthulg, 1, 4, 1
29, Robin01, 5, 2, 0
27, alfamikewhiskey, 1, 2, 1
27, chessmoron, 0, 1, 2
19, offramp, 4, 1, 0
14, OhioChessFan, 0, 2, 0
13, Golden Executive, 2, 1, 0
13, juan31, 1, 0, 1
10, Penguincw, 1, 1, 0
7, bubuli55, 0, 1, 0
0, juniper anole, 0, 0, 0


Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID, 3-Over, 2-Over, 3-Under, 2-Under

♔ 67, Golden Executive, 4, 2, 7, 4
♘ 41, WinKing, 1, 3, 2, 4
♗ 33, chessmoron, 3, 2, 4, 1
32, juan31, 7, 1, 1, 3
26, bubuli55, 1, 1, 1, 3
26, Robin01, 3, 4, 3, 0
24, alfamikewhiskey, 2, 8, 0, 1
23, Penguincw, 4, 1, 1, 2
22, wordfunph, 0, 5, 0, 2
21, OhioChessFan, 3, 1, 2, 1
18, offramp, 4, 2, 2, 0
12, SwitchingQuylthulg, 0, 0, 0, 2
1, juniper anole, 1, 0, 0, 0


Moves+Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID

♔ 93, WinKing
♘ 80, Golden Executive
♗ 66, wordfunph
60, chessmoron
55, Robin01
53, SwitchingQuylthulg
51, alfamikewhiskey
45, juan31
37, offramp
35, OhioChessFan
33, bubuli55
33, Penguincw
1, juniper anole


Moves Ranker (# of 1st place UNDER/OVER) - Through <FINAL Round>


♔ 8, wordfunph
♘ 7, Robin01
♘ 7, WinKing
♗ 6, SwitchingQuylthulg
5, offramp
4, alfamikewhiskey
3, chessmoron
3, Golden Executive
2, juan31
2, OhioChessFan
2, Penguincw
1, bubuli55
0, juniper anole

Aug-11-17  chessmoron: ♙<WINNER'S CORNER>

♔♔♘♘ <WinKing> Sinq17:StdMvRnk(1) + BonusRnk(2) + StdMv/Bonus(1) + 1stRanker(2t)

♔♘♗ <wordfunph> Sinq17:StdMvRnk(2) + StdMv/Bonus(3) + 1stRanker(1)

♔♘ <Golden Executive> Sinq17:BonusRnk(1) + StdMv/Bonus(2)

♗♗ <SwitchingQuylthulg> Sinq17:StdMvRnk(3) + 1stRanker(3)

<Robin01> Sinq17:1stRanker(2t)

<chessmoron> Sinq17:BonusRnk(3)

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  alfamikewhiskey: Thanks for running the contest and congrats to the winners!
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  juan31: Thank you <chessmoron and OhioChessFan> for the contest, congratulations to all.
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  wordfunph: <chessmoron and OhioChessFan> i appreciate all your effort, thanks a bunch!

<all winners> cheers!

Aug-11-17  chessmoron: <In other news, <OhioChessFan> earned The Dreaded <chessmoron> Glare for missing that round.>

What's funny is that until you mentioned it, I was not even aware that you didn't post your prediction for round 8. :D

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  WinKing: Thanks for all the hard work <chessmoron> running three contests in a row. Time for you to take in a little R&R. Thanks <Ohio Chess Fan> for recapping the rounds & hosting the event.

Congratulations to all of the medalists! Special grats to <Golden Executive> & <wordfunph> each picking up a gold medal! I felt like I was up against a 'tag team' trying to win my medals. You guys made me work a little harder this time around. ;)

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  OhioChessFan: ** Final Recap **

<WinKing> held on to take 2 gold medals. <GE> had a firm hold of the Bonus Ranker gold and never let up. <wordfunph> held off a late charge by several others to take the #1 Ranker gold. <OhioChessFan> is breathing easy after finally hitting a #1 to get the 0's off the scoreboard, and also finding out that <chessmoron> isn't ready to dunk him.

Thanks to everyone for playing, to the starters, and to <chessmoron> for scoring. It was a lot of work to hit those 3 tournaments in quick succession and it's much appreciated.

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  offramp: Well done to the winners, and thank you to Chessmoron and OhioChessFan for their efforts and calculations!
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  lostemperor: Missed this one guys. Congrats to the winners!
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  Penguincw: < OhioChessFan: I know I'm in a minority, but I do prefer this contest to the Games Prediction Contest. As one example why, a gold medal for picking a grand total of 2 decisive games out of 45? Yawn. >

I think I like this contest better too. Maybe because it's I've earned more medals here, but I do like the smaller numbers (feels like a community here). Each contest is however, unique in its own way.

The contest over at <GE>, well, it might be cheesy to do so, but even if you have a bad tournament, you're still in medal contention. This contest, if you've had a bad tournament, tough luck. But it happens.

But since I actively participate in all 3 contests, obviously I like them all. I may have preferences, but I'm sure that's normal.

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  Penguincw: Thanks <chessmoron> for hosting another great tournament, and thanks to <OCF> for making it possible. Congrats to the winners, hope to see you next time.

Normally I would ask when's the next one, but I think you should take a well deserved break now. So I'll ask later.

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  bubuli55: Congrats to the winners! And thanks OhioChessFan and chessmoron for running the show. I was up against a formidable field. I hope to do better next time.
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  Golden Executive: Thanks <chessmoron> and <OCF> for the show!

Congratulations to all the winners and particularly to <WinKing> on his double-crown and on this:

$$$$<Gold Leaderboard (10 Golds or more to qualify)>$$$$$

(Updated - Aug. 13, 2017)

1t. - SwitchingQuylthulg - 26G's-cm, 10G's-GE, 9G's-le, 1G-TLS <(46 Golds)>

1t. - WinKing - 32G's-cm, 11G's-GE, 2G's-le 1G-TLS <(46 Golds)>

User: WinKing

Wow, well, now we all know who are the guys to beat next time ;)

See you all at the next contest!

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  WinKing: I have just taken the time to update chessmoron's HOF. I started from the beginning of OCF's forum the 2009 Corus tournament & went through all of the contests to make sure nothing was missed. Took about 12 hours but I did find a few things that were missing. I have posted it in my forum. Now if we can just get <lostemperor> to up date his HOF we will be all set. <Golden Executive>'s HOF is meticulous no work needed there.
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  WinKing: Here is your history OCF. I did one for everybody. If anyone wants to see theirs just let me know.

♔17♘15♗28 <OhioChessFan>


1 - 1 - 4 = 6

Cor09:StdMvRnk(2t) + StdMv/Bonus(3) + 1stRanker(1t)//

Dor09:StdMvRnk(3) + 1stRanker(3t)//



1 - 3 - 3 = 7


Lin10:StdMvRnk(3)+ 1stRanker(3t)//

Pearl10:StdMvRnk(3) + BonusRnk(2) + StdMv/Bonus(2) + 1stRanker(2t)//


3 - 0 - 4 = 7

Tat11:StdMvRnk(1) + BonusRnk(3) + StdMv/Bonus(1) + 1stRanker(1)//


Tal11: BonusRnk(3)//



0 - 1 - 3 = 4


Biel12:BonusRnk(3t) + 1stRanker(3t)//



8 - 1 - 3 = 12


Cand13:StdMvRnk(1) + StdMv/Bonus(1) + 1stRanker(1t)//

Nor13:StdMvRnk(1) + BonusRnk(3) + StdMv/Bonus(1) + 1stRanker(1)//

Tal13:StdMv/Bonus(3t) + 1stRanker(3t)//

Dor13:BonusRnk(1) + StdMv/Bonus(1)//


0 - 1 - 2 = 3

Dor14:StdMv/Bonus(3) + 1stRanker(3t)//



2 - 1 - 3 = 6

Tat15:StdMvRnk(3) + 1stRanker(3)//


LCC15:StdMvRnk(1) + StdMv/Bonus(2) + 1stRanker(1t)//


2 - 4 - 2 = 8

Tata16:StdMvRnk(2) + BonusRnk(2) + StdMv/Bonus(1) + 1stRanker(2t)//

Cand16:StdMvRnk(2) + StdMv/Bonus(3t) + 1stRanker(1)//



0 - 3 - 4 = 7

Gash17:StdMvRnk(2) + StdMv/Bonus(3) + 1stRanker(2)//

Dor17:BonusRnk(3) + StdMv/Bonus(3t)//

Biel17:StdMv/Bonus(3) + 1stRanker(2t)


60 medals - 17 Golds, 15 Silvers, 28 Bronze

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  OhioChessFan: Wow, that is awesome. I wouldn't begin to have the patience to do all that work.
Aug-15-17  Big Pawn: <ohio>, let me know what you think of that book on critical thinking.
Aug-15-17  Nina Myers: <critical thinking.> Give it a try, Big Pawn!
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  OhioChessFan: <BP> still working on it. Don't want to draw a premature conclusion, but I have a strong suspicion the author is a Eurolib and should read his own book.
Aug-19-17  Big Pawn: Laaaaaaaawd have mercy. Not just a lib but a "Eurolib". Well, we all know what that means.

Still, it may be a good exercise in critical thinking to have to deal with all these thoughts that you naturally want to reject (for good reason), and learn how to deal with them sans emotion.

Looking forward to your review.

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