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London Chess Classic 2016 Moves Prediction Contest

<Main Focus>: Predicting how many moves in a game for each pairing. tournament page:
London Chess Classic (2016)

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[player]-[player] [result] [# of MOVES]

==4 Different Scoring Methods==

Standard Moves Ranker (1st place-Over[3pts], 1st place-Under [7pts], Exact [10pts])

Bonus Ranker (3rd place-Over[1pts],2nd place-Over[2pts],3rd place-Under [5pts], 2nd place-Under [6pts]

Standard Moves/Bonus Ranker [Add all to together]

1st place Ranker [how many 1st place you have in Standard Moves Ranker]

For example:

<Note: Participants 3, 4, and 5 are predicated on nobody scoring an exact as Participant 2 did. If someone hits an exact, the closest score under and over will score the points for second place.>

Actual Game: [player]-[player] 0-1 45

Participant 1: [player]-[player] 1/2 45
Participant 2: [player]-[player] 0-1 45
Participant 3: [player]-[player] 0-1 44
Participant 4: [player]-[player] 0-1 43
Participant 5: [player]-[player] 0-1 46

Participant 1: No points even though 45 is correct. Results must be correct. If Result is wrong and moves # is get no points whatsoever

Participant 2: 10 pts rewarded for correct Result/moves #

Participant 3: 7 pts rewarded for closest under (1st-Under) to 45 moves

Participant 4: 6 pts rewarded for the 2nd closest under (2nd-Under) to 45 moves.

Participant 5: 3 pts rewarded closest OVER(1st-OVER) to 45 moves.

Again, the description of Participant 3, 4, and 5 are based on there being no exact prediction as made by Participant 2.

<IF> there is an exact or an under closest, the highest scoring over participant will be 2nd over. The second closest over will be 3rd over. The <ONLY> time there will be a first over is if there is no exact or under winner. Bold strategy

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OhioChessFan: Hmmm I wonder if there are any demographic differences between GB and the USA that might make it doable there and not here.
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OhioChessFan: I'd say after 25...Nxd1, the game was over. I'll cut Byrne some slack for looking at a 13 year old opponent and wondering if he might swindle a perpetual. But the next two moves, White loses a Pawn each time, so the material advantage is even greater. Before his 28th move, ...
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OhioChessFan: <Yeah, how did we ever get by with someone having to use a cell phone without being hooked to the car, or listen to a radio/CD player instead of an MP3 player. Beam me up, Scotty.> <In other news: welcome to the 21st century, <Elvis>.> Different verse of the ...
   Mar-25-17 Short vs Kasparov, 1989
OhioChessFan: Nice pun that describes the game. Great? Meh, I'll go with good, maybe even very good, too predictable/already done/obvious to be great, but surely the best of the innumerable Short puns.
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OhioChessFan: Ummmmmmmmmmmm, they were kidding.
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OhioChessFan: Amazing that Xavier lost their 2 best players and still got this far. Arizona had a ton of shots that missed by a mile and the rebound bounced 20 feet away right to them. If Xavier had lost, the fans would have been bewailing how lucky Arizona was.
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OhioChessFan: Well, they got a lot of complaints from the men here about seeing blue balls every time they posted.
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OhioChessFan: La sonate-
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OhioChessFan: <frdm> that is hardly an elementary level question. In any event, 13. b4 is considered inferior.
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OhioChessFan: White is a 2200, playing a French, and loses in 14 moves. Ouch.
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  Travis Bickle: <diceman> Drop by the windy city I'll show you how to shoot... ; P
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  diceman: Funny no one looks at it the other way.
One shot out of 3 probably killed the President. Oswald was 33% "accurate."

Oswald came close to "not" killing Kennedy.

Had JFK (or his wife) had the presence of mind to get him down in the seat, he may have made it. (don't know if the throat wound would have killed him on the way to the hospital)

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  diceman: <Travis Bickle: <diceman> Drop by the windy city I'll show you how to shoot... >

Dont worry Trav, I know "chickenhawks"
who could turn you into a screen door.

We could have beer.
(as long as they have a mop available)

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  diceman: <Travis Bickle: <diceman: Dont worry Trav, I know "chickenhawks" who could turn you into a screen door.> What are you pals mercenary's or CIA? LOL! You're full of B.S.>

What's hilarious Trav is how upside down your fruitcake is.

You support the party of gender neutrality as you pretend to be a tough guy.

Heh, heh, lil jiff supports the party you do!
(maybe Trav “shoots” to Blake poems)

You wave the red/white/blue flag of America, as you support the party of fascism, communism, Marxism.

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  OhioChessFan: Let's settle down on the personal attacks.
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  Travis Bickle: Ohio, I apologize for my rage on your forum. Would you please delete my angry posts. Thanks.
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  OhioChessFan: It doesn't bother me a whole lot so I have no lingering concerns. It's just something I prefer not to happen here.
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  diceman: At the end of the day you're all right Trav.

Who else posts Black Sabbath on a regular basis?

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  OhioChessFan: Anyone else notice there were about 25 posts total in all the forums in the past week?
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  YouRang: <OhioChessFan: Anyone else notice there were about 25 posts total in all the forums in the past week?>

I did notice that yesterday, I posted something in <pgp>'s forum early in the day, and when I checked in later that evening, I was surprised that my post was still the latest one.

I wondered if the site had gone down for most of the day. If not, then I think I may have set some kind of record!

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  Boomie: <OCF, YouRang>

Sadly, some of CG's most active posters have left due to harassment by stalkers. This is also why Susan Polgar doesn't post here anymore.

There doesn't appear to be any solution to this problem. CG could perhaps open a social section to try to separate the nonsense from the chess. But I doubt that would prevent stalkers from lurking around their targets.

In addition to stalking, another buzz kill here is the constant bickering. People don't come to a chess site to read arguments about politics and religion. Perhaps if these were learned discussions, they wouldn't be such a turn off. But alas, the level of argument roughly matches the chess ratings of the participants. Patzers polemics.

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  diceman: <Boomie:

Perhaps if these were learned discussions, they wouldn't be such a turn off.>

There cant be “learned discussions” when one side doesn't exist/never happened.

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  YouRang: <Boomie><Sadly, some of CG's most active posters have left due to harassment by stalkers. This is also why Susan Polgar doesn't post here anymore.>

Yep, that's been an ongoing struggle for some time, although its certainly not unique to Practically any online discussion forum will see this problem, so at some level, participants need grow a "thick skin", and know when to NOT respond.

<There doesn't appear to be any solution to this problem. CG could perhaps open a social section to try to separate the nonsense from the chess. But I doubt that would prevent stalkers from lurking around their targets.>

I think that the user chess forums were intended to be social sections. And did create the ignore feature to prevent certain users from posting in a specific user's forum.

However, I think that the ignore feature is poorly implemented for other reasons, and those reasons make it an unattractive option for most people to deal with this problem.

<In addition to stalking, another buzz kill here is the constant bickering. People don't come to a chess site to read arguments about politics and religion. Perhaps if these were learned discussions, they wouldn't be such a turn off. But alas, the level of argument roughly matches the chess ratings of the participants. Patzers polemics.>

I don't think the problem is the off-topic discussions, as long as those discussions are confined to user chessforums (or other forums where permitted, e.g. Rogoff). Such topics are bound to produce some disagreements and even heated exchanges. However, there are always some people who participate in those discussions, but contribute little besides insults and snide remarks. These people do tend to drag a site down.

I think that if the ignore feature were implemented better so that people would use it, then it could help identify the most offensive people, and correct & eject them.

I had made a few recommendations to in the past that I thought would help, and some were even favorably received, but none have been implemented so I don't bother them about it anymore.

Another thing that could do is provide an attractive diversion that gives people something to do besides bicker. I reminded them a while back that we haven't had a team game (either Team-vs-Team or Team-vs-GM) in a long time, but again, I received no response.

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  saffuna: < This is also why Susan Polgar doesn't post here anymore.>

That was really unfortunate. I think she left largely because one poster insisted on referring to her and addressing her as <Mrs. Truong> despite her requests to be called Susan Polgar.

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  diceman: <YouRang:

Another thing that could do is provide an attractive diversion that gives people something to do besides bicker.>

One of the problems with modern computers being so strong. Tournament discussion forums don't require chess players to “actually” converse about games/moves/positions.

If we had the internet “without” the modern chess computers. Discussions would probably be about “actual” moves, and game discussions. Instead of Magnus in pampered fishbowls, and Giri's draws.

<internet “without” the modern chess computers>

Unfortunately, one leads to the other.

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  Travis Bickle: Yo Elvis, here is the best version of 'Won't Get Fooled Again' period!

The Concert For New York (9/11) - Behind Blues Eyes/Won't Get Fooled Again (with Ringo Starr's son Zach on drums).

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  OhioChessFan: I think Susan Polgar brought a lot of the turmoil on herself. She was sort of AJ Lite, with an ego to match her admitted high level of accomplishment. She assuredly overclaimed the development of Wesley So, which is sure to get a negative reaction on this site. The Sam Sloan debacle was a real problem, and she kept making public comments and claims of innocence, and then objecting to valid responses. In the end, you kind of have to make a mental assesment of a person, positive or negative, and despite all the good she's done in the world of chess, I have to cast a negative vote.
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  chancho: Kamsky, Short, Polgar, Day, Schiller.

They used to post here.

All gone.

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  User not found: I should have added. I'll bless you gentlemen with my findings on the JFK assassination at a later date.

Hint. I believe LHO did it but <someone> else had to know too. That makes it a conspiracy.

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<Ohio> The number of forum posts has been declining sharply for years. I doubt it's a mystery- our webmaster refuses to apply any kind of consistent or acceptable standard for enforcing the <posting guidelines>. After a decade of abject failure on this front, he's on the point of running his otherwise fabulous website into the ground.

This is an opinion (from a crank), as opposed to a fact, so you can't nessa celery go by me.

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  User not found: Hi. Okay firstly let's address my accusation against you of cronyism.

Do you <really> think it's normal for a doctor, a medical professional (whatever) to be saying this to <anyone> be it real life or on the internet, below ⬇️

Domdaniel: OhioChessFan: <Am I the only one curious about the good doctor's recurring claim to have "got(ten) inside somebody's head"?> No. <I think he's correct to a large degree.> But I'm not sure what the endgame is. A greatly mitigating factor is the really intense series of threats levelled upon him.>

1) Forget who the person is. Do you think it's perfectly normal behavior from a doctor, any doctor, to be using terminology like "I'm now inside your head. This is all too easy!" (That's the exact quote) when speaking with someone either in life or on the net?

2. You say "A greatly mitigating factor is the really intense series of threats levelled upon him". Okay let's say he was "intensely threatened?". Do you think it's perfectly normal behavior from a doctor, any doctor, to be using terminology like "I'm now inside your head. This is all too easy!" (That's the exact quote) when speaking with someone either in life or on the net? Or should he have called the police if the threats were so intense? <Or> you think the doctor in question brought it upon himself (you just said it to me in the cafe!) by constantly interfering in things that are nothing <whatsoever> to do with him?

3). Look at the trouble he's caused on the So page, the Carlsen page (what he did to frogbert was despicable), the Kramnik page, basically every single flame war since the incarnation of chessgames dot com... Do you think it's perfectly normal behavior from a doctor, any doctor to behave in this manner?

4. I'm sure you're a decent fella in real life but your loyalty to a man who's quite possibly mentally ill astonishes me and not just because you're a Christian. If TheFocus, Jay-B or Rogge posted pictures of other members families in their bio I'd <publicly> tell them exactly what I thought because I know right from wrong. Sometimes I think it's my Blackadder soh (I copy his obnoxious sarcasm and only English and Norwegians seem to get it!?) that you don't understand, Elvis.

If you truly believe a doctor, any doctor should be behaving the way he does then maybe you need a doctor yourself. He's quite easily the most disliked person on this site. He has no qualities, he's twisted in the head which is of course the reason he used Keyser Soze every now and then when he needs back up in an argument that he starts. He knows full well Keyser is "odd" and uses him before discarding him until he needs him again. There's only you and Keyser who defends tpstar's actions. I understand with Keyser because he has <very serious> mental problems and I'm not being sarcastic, insulting or funny when I say that. It's a fact and you don't know what he's been getting up to.

Yes I had to go to my solicitor to show her everything. Then I contacted someone at this site for advice and both my solicitor and the person at this site said I should go to the police. I did. I can't say much more than that.

Do you know how many times tpstar has said he wants people's families to visit this site? Do you know how many "psychological evaluations" he's "conducted!?" at this site, how many people he's told they need immediate mental help?

Do you want to know what I think. Well I think that once upon a time he bought you a membership and for some reason you show loyalty to him that's far above and beyond being a friend. A friend will tell his friend. "Hey. That's wrong" when they're wrong. You've never once done that regardless of the overwhelming evidence he's definitely in need of help. If you want to help him out, if you want to be a friend, if you <really> are his friend and you don't just get involved in arguments he causes then maybe you should tell him it's him who needs the help? Everyone else can see it, well most right minded people can. People like Big pawn (I think we can both agree he's insane with those other usernames) just egg him on. People like Keyser get used. What's your excuse??

A Star Wars quotes. "I've never seen such devotion in a droid before!" #Cronyism or... You're mad.

I'm probably the only person at this site who'll admit when he's wrong. I'm not an angel but then again I'm not a doctor, I'm not a man you should be able to trust with your life, I'm not under investigation by the State licensing medical board, I'm just a normal working class bloke.

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  Keyser Soze: You were right <ocf> . This guy makes AJ like a kindergarten type..
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  User not found: I knew you'd post directly after me. Strange that. Have a great day :)
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  Keyser Soze: Oi?
Do you think this guy will fall for false narratives? You are looking for the wrong person to take your side.actually no one cares for your drama. You brought that to yourself. Follow Kevin the puzzlemaster: Not happy? Leave..
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  diceman: <jessicafischerqueen:

<Ohio> The number of forum posts has been declining sharply for years. I doubt it's a mystery->

People dont really like free speech.
Even if they say they do.

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