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Dortmund Moves Prediction Contest

<Main Focus>: Predicting how many moves in a game for each pairing. tournament page:
Dortmund Sparkassen Chess Meeting (2014)

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Last Tournament Results: Tata Steel 2014

<Karposian> Tat14:BonusRnk(1) + StdMv/Bonus(1)

<juan31> Tat14:StdMvRnk(1t) + StdMv/Bonus(2) + 1stRanker(2t)

<SwitchingQuylthulg> Tat14:StdMvRnk(1t) + 1stRanker(2t)

<Golden Executive> Tat14:StdMvRnk(3) + 1stRanker(1)

<WinKing> Tat14:StdMvRnk(2) + StdMv/Bonus(3) + 1stRanker(3t)

<Penguincw> Tat14:BonusRnk(2)

<chessmoron> Tat14:BonusRnk(3)

<NakoSonorense> Tat14:1stRanker(3t)


[player]-[player] [result] [# of MOVES]

==4 Different Scoring Methods==

Standard Moves Ranker (1st place-Over[3pts], 1st place-Under [7pts], Exact [10pts])

Bonus Ranker (3rd place-Over[1pts],2nd place-Over[2pts],3rd place-Under [5pts], 2nd place-Under [6pts]

Standard Moves/Bonus Ranker [Add all to together]

1st place Ranker [how many 1st place you have in Standard Moves Ranker]

For example:

<Note: Participants 3, 4, and 5 are predicated on nobody scoring an exact as Participant 2 did. If someone hits an exact, the closest score under and over will score the points for second place.>

Actual Game: [player]-[player] 0-1 45

Participant 1: [player]-[player] 1/2 45
Participant 2: [player]-[player] 0-1 45
Participant 3: [player]-[player] 0-1 44
Participant 4: [player]-[player] 0-1 43
Participant 5: [player]-[player] 0-1 46

Participant 1: No points even though 45 is correct. Results must be correct. If Result is wrong and moves # is get no points whatsoever

Participant 2: 10 pts rewarded for correct Result/moves #

Participant 3: 7 pts rewarded for closest under (1st-Under) to 45 moves

Participant 4: 6 pts rewarded for the 2nd closest under (2nd-Under) to 45 moves.

Participant 5: 3 pts rewarded closest OVER(1st-OVER) to 45 moves.

Again, the description of Participant 3, 4, and 5 are based on there being no exact prediction as made by Participant 2.

<IF> there is an exact or an under closest, the highest scoring over participant will be 2nd over. The second closest over will be 3rd over. The <ONLY> time there will be a first over is if there is no exact or under winner.

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Moves Prediction Contest

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  SwitchingQuylthulg: Round 7:

Leko - Caruana 1/2 35
Ponomariov - Kramnik 1/2 36
Meier - Naiditsch 1/2 40
Adams - Baramidze 1/2 36

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  SwitchingQuylthulg: Round 7 games have started.
Jul-20-14  Penguincw: K LIVE UPDATE K

Round 7:

Adams - Baramidze 2.18 31
Leko - Caruana 1/2-1/2 31
Meier - Naiditsch 0.75 26
Ponomariov - Kramnik 0.45 27

According to

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  lostemperor: Yes, I have one correct prediction: Adams - Baramidze 1-0 in 43 moves


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  WinKing: Welcome to the HOF <PinnedPiece>! I think you have a couple of golds coming your way - congratulations! Let's wait for the official confirmation though & then the party can begin. :)
Jul-20-14  chessmoron: K Dortmund 2014: <Round 7> Result K

<Adams-Baramidze, 1-0 in 43 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: [['lostemperor', '1-0', '43']]
Under, 7 points: []
2nd Under, 6 points: [['Robin01', '1-0', '42']]
3rd Under, 5 points: [['OhioChessFan', '1-0', '40']]
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []


<Leko-Caruana, 1/2-1/2 in 31 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['Golden Executive', '1/2-1/2', '25']]

2nd Under, 6 points: [['Pengunicw', '1/2-1/2', '15']]

3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['Robin01', '1/2-1/2', '32']]
3rd Over, 1 point1: [['Karposian', '1/2-1/2', '33']]


<Meier-Naidistch, 1-0 in 65 moves.>--No one got it!


<Ponomariov-Kramnik, 1-0 in 56 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['juan31', '1-0', '44']]
2nd Under, 6 points: []
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []

Jul-20-14  chessmoron: FINAL Round Summary:

Perfect # moves predictions for this round goes to:


Highest scores in the Bonus Ranker: 8 points: <Robin01>


Moves Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID, Over, Under, Exact

K 35, PinnedPiece, 0, 5, 0
N 28, WinKing, 0, 4, 0
B 27, lostemperor, 1, 2, 1
24, OhioChessFan, 0, 2, 1
24, Robin01, 0, 2, 1
21, Karposian, 0, 3, 0
17, chessmoron, 0, 1, 1
17, Golden Executive, 1, 2, 0
14, juan31, 0, 2, 0
14, wordfunph, 0, 2, 0
3, SwitchingQuylthulg, 1, 0, 0
0, Penguincw, 0, 0, 0


Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID, 3-Over, 2-Over, 3-Under, 2-Under

K 46, SwitchingQuylthulg, 1, 0, 3, 5
{N] 39, lostemperor, 1, 2, 2, 4
B 32, Penguincw, 1, 1, 1, 4
30, OhioChessFan, 1, 0, 1, 4
23, juan31, 2, 3, 3, 0
22, PinnedPiece, 0, 0, 2, 2
20, Golden Executive, 3, 0, 1, 2
19, Robin01, 1, 1, 2, 1
19, WinKing, 0, 1, 1, 2
16, chessmoron, 0, 2, 0, 2
16, Karposian, 1, 2, 1, 1
7, wordfunph, 1, 0, 0, 1


Moves+Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID

K 66, lostemperor
N 57, PinnedPiece
B 54, OhioChessFan
49, SwitchingQuylthulg
47, WinKing
43, Robin01
37, Golden Executive
37, juan31
37, Karposian
33, chessmoron
32, Penguincw
21, wordfunph


Moves Ranker (# of 1st place UNDER/OVER) - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID

K 5, PinnedPiece
N 4, lostemperor
N 4, WinKing
B 3, Karposian
B 3, Golden Executive
B 3, OhioChessFan
B 3, Robin01
2, chessmoron
2, juan31
2, wordfunph
1, SwitchingQuylthulg
0, Penguincw

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  juan31: Thank you to chessmoron, OhioChessFan, Penguincw, for the contest and congratulation for the winers.
Jul-20-14  chessmoron: K <WINNER'S CORNER> K

KKN <PinnedPiece> Dor14:StdMvRnk(1)+ StdMv/Bonus(2) + 1stRanker(1)

KNNB <lostemperor> Dor14:StdMvRnk(3)+ BonusRnk(2) + StdMv/Bonus(1) + 1stRanker(2t)

K <SwitchingQuylthulg> Dor14:BonusRnk(1)

NN <WinKing> Dor14:StdMvRnk(2)+ 1stRanker(2t)

BB <OhioChessFan> Dor14:StdMv/Bonus(3) + 1stRanker(3t)

B <Golden Executive> Dor14:1stRanker(3t)

B <Karposian> Dor14:1stRanker(3t)

B <Penguincw> Dor14:BonusRnk(3)

B <Robin01> Dor14:1stRanker(3t)

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  OhioChessFan: K Final Recap K

The sports world is stunned as <PinnedPiece> has burst through the doors of the Hall of Fame with not one, but two gold medals! He added one silver to his haul. He has 15 seconds for his induction speech, Okay, time's up. Already Hall of Famers <Switchamacallit> and <lostemperor> added a gold medal each to their collections. <lost> had two silvers and a bronze also.

Other medal winners were <WinKing> with 2 silvers, <OhioChessFan> with two bronzes, and <penguincw!> <Karpoian> <Golden Exectutive> and <Robin01> with a bronze each. Thanks to everyone for playing, and to <chessmoron> and <penguincw> and <WinKing> for scoring

Jul-20-14  Penguincw: What a tournament! Thanks to <chessmoron> and <OCF> for hosting, and also thanks for help from <WinKing>. As for the winners, special congratz to <PinnedPiece> for getting the double crown. Entering this tournament, he was the only participant to not have won a gold medal in this contest.

Also, I'm a bit surprised that I came away with a bronze despite being shutout in 2 categories, but I'll take it. :)

By the way, any plans for next tournament? Bilbao is probably best, taking place in September.

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  PinnedPiece: <two golds> . Wow, I don't what to say, so I'll just say:

I don't know what to say.

By the way, I missed the first round, and got a shutout in the final round, so for anyone who cruises through here, wondering what it takes to be a happy camper.....let me tell you this:

I don't know what to say.

Except I certainly appreciate the fine work of the multiple hosts, and am happy to share a few of the honors with them.


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  Karposian: <PinnedPiece> What a fantastic performance. Congratulations and welcome to the glorious <Hall of Fame>!!

Thanks to <OCF> for hosting and <chessmoron>, <WinKing> and <penguincw> for keeping track of the scores. Congrats to all the medal winners!

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  WinKing: Thanks to <chessmoron> & <OhioChessFan> for running & hosting the contest.

Congratulations to all of the medal winners! Special kudos to <PinnedPiece> the newest member in the HOF. It was a long time in coming but I'm sure it was worth the wait breaking the barrier with not one but two golds! :)

Another wild finish in this contest. You weren't sure how it was going to turn out going into the last round. I love this contest - very unpredictable.

Jul-20-14  Penguincw: BTW: I know this was a long time ago, but here are the contests that neither chessmoron and/or OCF medalled in.

chessmoron: Corus 2010, Norway 2013, Norway 2014
OCF: Linares 2009, Tal Memorial 2009, Bazna 2011, Dortmund 2011, Bilbao 2011, Dortmund 2012, Tata Steel 2014, Norway 2014 <Common>: Norway 2014

I've been pretty interested on YouRang's profile on how he categorizes the gold medal winners. So, I decided to do the same for this contest:


* Quadruple Crown: <Penguincw> (LCC 11)

* Triple Crowns: <OhioChessFan> (Tat11+Cand13+Nor 13), <Robin01> (PSpr 10+Dor 11+Tat 12), <lostemperor> (Bilb12+Nor 14*), <wordfunph> (Tal13*+WCC 14), <just a kid> (Dor09), <NakoSonorense> (Bilb11*), <SwitchingQuylthulg> (Baz11*), <WinKing> (Dor12*)

* Double Crowns: <chessmoron> (Cor09+Dor11+Tal11+LCC11+Dor12), <imag> (Cor09+Lin09), <wordfunph> (Tal11+Dor13), <chanco> (Cor10), <DCP23> (Lin09), <jameskobe> (PSpr09), <Karposian> (Tat14), <OhioChessFan> (Dor11), <PinnedPiece> (Dor14), <SloVice> (Bilb11), <SwitchingQuylthulg> (Tat 13), <Where is my mind> (Tal 09), <WinKing> (Biel12), <Winter> (Lin10)

*The user was a silver shy of a quadruple crown.


* Moves Ranker: 4K <chessmoron>; 3K <OhioChessFan>, <Robin01>, <SwitchingQuylthulg>, <wordfunph>; 2K <imag>, <lostemperor>

* Bonus Ranker: 5K <chessmoron>; 3K <Golden Executive>; 2K <lostemperor>, <OhioChessFan>, <SloVice>, <SwichingQuylthulg>, <WinKing>, <wordfunph>

* Moves+Bonus: 4K <chessmoron>, <OhioChessFan>; 3K <lostemperor>, <NakoSonorense>, <Robin01>, <wordfunph>

* 1st Ranker: 8K <chessmoron>; 5K <wordfunph>; 4K <OhioChessFan>; 3K <lostemperor>, <Robin01>, <WinKing>; 2K <imag>, <NakoSonorense>, <Penguincw>, <SloVice>, <SwitchingQuylthulg>, <twinlark>

Jul-20-14  Penguincw: (continued)


* 2009 (5 tournaments): 4K <imag>; 3K <chessmoron>, <just a kid>; 2K <DCP23>, <jameskobe>, <Ragh>, <Where is my mind>

* 2010 (3 tournaments): 3K <Robin01>; 2K <chanco>, <chessmoron>, <lostemperor>, <Winter>

* 2011 (6 tournaments): 9K <chessmoron>; 4K <Penguincw>; 3K <NakoSonorense>, <OhioChessFan>, <Robin01>, <SwitchingQuylthulg>; 2K <SloVice>, <wordfunph>

* 2012 (4 tournaments): 6K <WinKing>; 5K <chessmoron>; 3K <lostemperor>, <Robin01>; 2K <Golden Executive>

* 2013 (5 tournaments): 8K <OhioChessFan>; 5K <wordfunph>; 2K <SwitchingQuylthulg>, <twinlark>

* 2014 (4 tournaments): 4K <lostemperor>; 3K <SwitchingQuylthulg>, <wordfunph>; 2K <Karposian>, <PinnedPiece>

Jul-20-14  Penguincw: (continued AGAIN (these posts are LONG))


* Baz (1 year): 3K <SwitchingQuylthulg>

* Biel (1 year): 2K <WinKing>

* Bilb (2 years): 3K <lostemperor>, <NakoSonorense>; 2K <chessmoron>, <SloVice>

* Dor (5 years): 4K <chessmoron>; 3K <just a kid>, <Robin01>, <WinKing>, <wordfunph>; 2K <OhioChessFan>, <PinnedPiece>

* Lin (2 years): 2K <DCP23>, <imag>, <Winter>

* LCC (1 year): 4K <Penguincw>; 2K <chessmoron>

* Nor (2 years): 3K <lostemperor>, <OhioChessFan>

* PSpr (2 years): 3K <Robin01>; 2K <jameskobe>

* Tal (3 years): 3K <chessmoron>, <wordfunph>; 2K <Where is my mind>, <wordfunph>

* WCC (2 years): 3K <OhioChessFan>, <wordfunph>; 2K <chessmoron>

* Wij (6 years): 4K <chessmoron>, <OhioChessFan>; 3K <Robin01>; 2K <chanco>, <Golden Executive>, <imag>, <NakoSonorense>, <SwitchingQuylthulg>

Notes: In order for one to appear here, they must have won at least 2 crowns in a particular category. However, I do have a record of all the one crown winners. Also, in order to find all this data, I actually went back in <OCF>'s chessforum to look at previous contest winners. Unfortunately, the data only goes back to 2009, and is therefore different then as listed on chessmoron's profile. If you spot any errors, please notify me, and I'll look into it (don't worry <WinKing>, take your time with it). Thanks. :)

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  WinKing: <If you spot any errors, please notify me, and I'll look into it (don't worry <WinKing>, take your time with it). Thanks. :)>

This is over my pay grade <Penguincw>. I think I'll let you handle this one. ;)

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  SwitchingQuylthulg: Thanks to <chessmoron> and <OhioChessFan> (and their helpers <WinKing> and <Penguincw>), and congratulations to all medalists!
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  lostemperor: Thanks chessmoron, OhioChessFan and those who helped out for another fun and fierce contest!
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  WinKing: HOF medal count for all three contests has been updated. See my forum for details.
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  Golden Executive: A lot of fun as usual.Thanks to the crew (<OCF>,<CM>,<WK> & <PG>) and congratulations to the winners.See you gals and guys the next time!
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  wordfunph: <OCF> <chessmoron> thanks.

hurrah to all winners!

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  eternaloptimist: Hi <Ohio>, how's it going? Btw I was checking out some random chess websites earlier today & I noticed something interesting on the home page of this website of a chess club in Ennis, Ireland.: They mentioned the same chesscafe article on the benefits of chess that u pointed out to me in my forum! I think that it's a good article & apparently the Irishman that pointed it out does also but <Deus Ex Alekhina> apparently disagrees. Btw did u ever read his kibitz in my forum? It's quite interesting. o.0 It will raise an eyebrow to say the least!
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