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Tata Steel Moves Prediction Contest

<Main Focus>: Predicting how many moves in a game for each pairing. tournament page:
Tata Steel (2016)

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[player]-[player] [result] [# of MOVES]

==4 Different Scoring Methods==

Standard Moves Ranker (1st place-Over[3pts], 1st place-Under [7pts], Exact [10pts])

Bonus Ranker (3rd place-Over[1pts],2nd place-Over[2pts],3rd place-Under [5pts], 2nd place-Under [6pts]

Standard Moves/Bonus Ranker [Add all to together]

1st place Ranker [how many 1st place you have in Standard Moves Ranker]

For example:

<Note: Participants 3, 4, and 5 are predicated on nobody scoring an exact as Participant 2 did. If someone hits an exact, the closest score under and over will score the points for second place.>

Actual Game: [player]-[player] 0-1 45

Participant 1: [player]-[player] 1/2 45
Participant 2: [player]-[player] 0-1 45
Participant 3: [player]-[player] 0-1 44
Participant 4: [player]-[player] 0-1 43
Participant 5: [player]-[player] 0-1 46

Participant 1: No points even though 45 is correct. Results must be correct. If Result is wrong and moves # is get no points whatsoever

Participant 2: 10 pts rewarded for correct Result/moves #

Participant 3: 7 pts rewarded for closest under (1st-Under) to 45 moves

Participant 4: 6 pts rewarded for the 2nd closest under (2nd-Under) to 45 moves.

Participant 5: 3 pts rewarded closest OVER(1st-OVER) to 45 moves.

Again, the description of Participant 3, 4, and 5 are based on there being no exact prediction as made by Participant 2.

<IF> there is an exact or an under closest, the highest scoring over participant will be 2nd over. The second closest over will be 3rd over. The <ONLY> time there will be a first over is if there is no exact or under winner.

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Moves Prediction Contest

Kibitzer's Corner
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: Round 13:

Mamedyarov - Karjakin 1/2 39
Van Wely - Wei 1/2 36
Tomashevsky - Caruana 1/2 30
Eljanov - Navara 1/2 34
Carlsen - Ding 1/2 41
Adams - So 1/2 34
Giri - Hou 1/2 34

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  WinKing: Round 13

Mamedyarov - Karjakin 1/2 38
Van Wely - Wei 1/2 32
Tomashevsky - Caruana 1/2 33
Eljanov - Navara 1/2 35
Carlsen - Ding 1/2 40
Adams - So 1/2 32
Giri - Hou 1/2 38

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  SwitchingQuylthulg: Round 13 games have started.
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  OhioChessFan: Thanks Switch Glad I picked early or would have missed by a minute
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  WinKing: I have posted all of our picks in my forum for those who want to see where you stand...or someone else. ;)
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  Golden Executive: Great idea to increase the drama of the final round <WinKing>.
Jan-31-16  chessmoron: ♔ Tata Steel 2016: <FINAL Round> Result ♔

<Adams-So, 1/2-1/2 in 33 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: [['wordfunph', '1/2-1/2', '33']]
Under, 7 points: []
2nd Under, 6 points: [['WinKing', '1/2-1/2', '32']]
3rd Under, 5 points: [['Karposian', '1/2-1/2', '31']]

Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['SwitchingQuylthulg', '1/2-1/2', '34']]

3rd Over, 1 point1: [['Robin01', '1/2-1/2', '36']]


<Carlsen-Ding, 1/2-1/2 in 99 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['Fiona Macleod', '1/2-1/2', '56']]

2nd Under, 6 points: [['chessmoron', '1/2-1/2', '41'], ['SwitchingQuylthulg', '1/2-1/2', '41']]

3rd Under, 5 points: [['WinKing', '1/2-1/2', '40'], ['juan31', '1/2-1/2', '40']]

Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []


<Eljanov-Navara, 1-0 in 36 moves.>--No one got it!


<Giri-Hou, 1/2-1/2 in 95 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['Fiona Macleod', '1/2-1/2', '55']]

2nd Under, 6 points: [['chessmoron', '1/2-1/2', '42']]

3rd Under, 5 points: [['juan31', '1/2-1/2', '39']]
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []


<Mamedyarov-Karjakin, 1/2-1/2 in 31 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['Golden Executive', '1/2-1/2', '30']]

2nd Under, 6 points: [['Penguincw', '1/2-1/2', '25'], ['lostemperor', '1/2-1/2', '25']]

3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['Karposian', '1/2-1/2', '33'], ['wordfunph', '1/2-1/2', '33'], ['Robin01', '1/2-1/2', '33']]

3rd Over, 1 point1: [['alfamikewhiskey', '1/2-1/2', '34']]


<Tomashevksy-Caruana, 1-0 in 63 moves.>--No one got it! (I'm looking at you <SwitchingQuylthulg>!?


<van Wely-Wei, 1/2-1/2 in 31 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['Karposian', '1/2-1/2', '30'], ['Golden Executive', '1/2-1/2', '30']]

2nd Under, 6 points: [['OhioChessFan', '1/2-1/2', '29']]

3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['WinKing', '1/2-1/2', '32']]
3rd Over, 1 point1: [['wordfunph', '1/2-1/2', '33']]

Jan-31-16  chessmoron: FINAL Round Summary:

Perfect # moves predictions for this round goes to:


Highest scores in the Bonus Ranker: 13 points: <WinKing>


Moves Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID, Over, Under, Exact

♔ 87, SwitchingQuylthulg, 1, 12, 0
♘ 71, OhioChessFan, 2, 5, 3
♗ 69, Penguincw, 0, 7, 2
63, Karposian, 4, 3, 3
62, juan31, 1, 7, 1
58, wordfunph, 1, 5, 2
55, lostemperor, 0, 5, 2
48, Golden Executive, 2, 6, 0
40, alfamikewhiskey, 4, 4, 0
38, Fiona Macleod, 1, 5, 0
30, chessmoron, 1, 1, 2
26, Robin01, 3, 1, 1
24, WinKing, 0, 2, 1


Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID, 3-Over, 2-Over, 3-Under, 2-Under

♔ 129, WinKing, 4, 7, 9, 11
♘ 116, OhioChessFan, 5, 7, 5, 12
♗ 93, chessmoron, 7, 4, 6, 8
86, Golden Executive, 7, 2, 3, 10
84, Karposian, 3, 10, 5, 6
76, juan31, 5, 11, 5, 4
70, SwitchingQuylthulg, 1, 2, 7, 5
64, lostemperor, 6, 4, 4, 5
58, Fiona Macleod, 3, 7, 1, 6
57, Penguincw, 4, 5, 5, 3
42, Robin01, 3, 8, 1, 3
36, wordfunph, 6, 6, 0, 3
30, alfamikewhiskey, 3, 6, 3, 0


Moves+Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID

♔ 187, OhioChessFan
♘ 157, SwitchingQuylthulg
♗ 153, WinKing
147, Karposian
138, juan31
134, Golden Executive
126, Penguincw
123, chessmoron
119, lostemperor
96, Fiona Macleod
94, wordfunph
70, alfamikewhiskey
68, Robin01


Moves Ranker (# of 1st place UNDER/OVER) - Through <FINAL Round>


♔ 13, SwitchingQuylthulg
♘ 10, Karposian
♘ 10, OhioChessFan
♗ 9 juan31
♗ 9, Penguincw
8, alfamikewhiskey
8, Golden Executive
8, wordfunph
7, lostemperor
6, Fiona Macleod
5, Robin01
4, chessmoron
3, WinKing

Jan-31-16  chessmoron: ♙ <WINNER'S CORNER>

♔♔♘ <SwitchingQuylthulg> Tata16:StdMvRnk(1) + StdMv/Bonus(2) + 1stRanker(1)

♔♘♘♘ <OhioChessFan> Tata16:StdMvRnk(2) + BonusRnk(2) + StdMv/Bonus(1) + 1stRanker(2t)

♔♗ <WinKing> Tata16:BonusRnk(1) + StdMv/Bonus(3)

♗♗ <Penguincw> Tata16:StdMvRnk(3) + 1stRanker(3t)

<Karposian> Tata16:1stRanker(2t)

<chessmoron> Tata16:SBonusRnk(3)

<juan31> Tata16:1stRanker(3t)

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  OhioChessFan: ** Final Recap **

3 Hall of Famers took all the gold medals this contest. <Switch> rode his unbelievable Round 12 performance to a Double Gold Crown in Moves and #1 Rankers. <WinKing> held on in a close contest to take the Bonus Ranker. <OhioChessFan> took the Bonus+Ranker crown.

In a surprisingly close vote, <Karposian> vs <Penguincw> barely beat out <OhioChessFan> vs. <ChessgamesBookie> for best feud in a vote among the journalists. Accepting his award, <Penguincw> said "While I don't mind sharing this award with <Corrosion>, you really have to notice that 67.82% of the words in this feud were my words, and only 32.8% were his, so obviously, I'm the superior feuder, blah blah blah. And this really is a historic award, as this is the first time someone's won Best Feud while having been in the lead in Moves Ranker. Furthermore, if you look at our last award for Best Feud, in that one, I had 70.24% of the words and he only had 29.7%, and that shows the tendency of me to be the person who is really capturing the attention of the journalists who vote for this award, blah blah blah. I would thank <OhioChessFan> and <chessmoron> for running this contest that got my face out in front of the journalists, but with my feuding talent, that would have happened anyway, blah blah blah. And did I mention that I was voted Most Helpful in the recent Caissars, blah blah blah? Anyway, it's nice to be recognized for my superior talent and skill and blah blah blah. Blah blah blah, blah blah blah. Blah." Accepting his award, <Karposian> said "Thank you."

Thanks to everyone for playing.

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  Chessgames Bookie: blah, blah, blah.
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  Karposian: <OCF: Accepting his award, <Penguincw> said "While I don't mind sharing this award with <Corrosion>, you really have to notice that 67.82% of the words in this feud were my words, and only 32.8% were his, so obviously, I'm the superior feuder, blah blah blah...>


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  Karposian: Thanks <OCF> and <chessmoron> for another great contest. It was a tough contest, and I'm happy to have obtained a silver medal. Congrats to all the winners, and a special salute goes to <OCF> for his "Penguincw's acceptance speech". LOL, Can't stop laughing.
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  Golden Executive: Thanks to the whole crew (<chessmoron>, <OhioChessFan>, <WinKing> and <Penguincw>) for the contest. A lot of fun as usual.

Congratulations to all the medal winners and see you guys and gals next time.

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  Penguincw: I usually don't include probabilities in the final speech I give after each contest. I might include them in any rebuttals with <arposianK>, to actually prove a point instead of just babbling like an idiot.

< OCF: ... While I don't mind sharing this award with <Corrosion> >

What do you mean "don't mind sharing". Of course I mine. It's been contaminated by him.

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  juan31: <Thanks to chessmoron, OhioChessFan, Winking> Congratulations to winners of medals. Gracias
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  Penguincw: Anyway:

Thanks to <OhioChessFan> and <chessmoron> for the contest, <WinKing> for keeping score (oh wait, nvm, I take that back) and <Chessgames Bookie> for making this contest more interesting.

Congrats to <SwitchingQuylthulg> for having a huge R12 performance to steal the gold in Moves and First Ranker (and also a silver in Total Ranker). This is his 4th multi-crown.

Congrats to <WK> for winning a gold in Bonus Ranker despite being last in Moves and First Ranker. He also won a bronze to remain ahead of <cm> for most runner-up medals, now up to 40.

Congrats to <OCF> who hung on to win 4 medals: a gold and 3 silver (should've been a gold, 2 silver and a bronze, but <WK> withdrew 4 points from my name).

Congrats to all the other medalists as well.

As for <Karposian>, congrats to you for passing me on the HOF.

Oh wait, still didn't happen. This is the 4th time he said he would pass me on the HOF, but the 4th time he's failed. But he did <approach> me:


<Penguincw> 6♔,7♘,12♗

<imag> 6♔,3♘,4♗

<Karposian> 6♔,2♘,5♗


<Penguincw> 6♔,7♘,14♗

<Karposian> 6♔,3♘,5♗


<chessmoron>, are you going to host the Candidates?

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  Karposian: <Penguincw: HOF>

Well, I've surpassed <imag>. That means you're next :)

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  WinKing: Thanks to <chessmoron> for running this extremely challenging contest & thanks to <OhioChessFan> for hosting & providing us all with a running commentary!

Congrats to all of the medal winners! A fine performance turned in by <SwitchingQuylthulg> to grab a couple of golds in both Moves Ranker categories & another fine performance by <OhioChessFan> to pick up the gold in the Moves & Bonus Ranker category. A highly spirited affair with plenty of ups & downs. Looking forward to seeing all of you in the next challenge.

Feb-01-16  chessmoron: Next up: Candidates Tournament in March.
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  OhioChessFan: Thanks <chessmaroon> I was hoping for that.
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: Thanks to <chessmoron> and <OhioChessFan>, and congratulations to all medalists!
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  wordfunph: <chessmoron> <OhioChessFan> gracias, cheers to all topnotchers!
Feb-01-16  chessmoron: Thanks to you guys for the best rounds of predictions for any tournament I've done. A round applause to you guys.
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  Golden Executive: <chessmoron: Next up: Candidates Tournament in March.> Great!
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