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Mar-04-24
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  jnpope: Thanks. It just struck me as being finished in an uncommon state when I built the cross-table.
Mar-04-24  BarakSaltz: In the following 1895 Vienna tournament, several pseudonyms were used. http://www.edochess.ca/tournaments/...

"Tidsskrift for Skak" 1895 p.136 gives "St. Louis" as Max Judd, "Dr. Reminet" as Dr. Meitner, and "Philidor" as having droppped out.

"Allgemeine Sport-Zeitung" 03.03.1895 p.199 gives "Philidor" as Holzwarth.

Mar-04-24
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  perfidious: Note (mostly to <zed>, but to anyone who can help:

If my tired old brain has not completely failed me, someone posted recently of a possible contact who might have back numbers of <Chess Horizons> for sale.

Mar-04-24
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  Tabanus: Karpov - Timman Candidates Final (1990), to complete this cycle.
Mar-04-24  stone free or die: Hi <perf> -

Yes, I think I posted something about <Chess Horizons> not too long back. Not about volumes for sale though, but about contacts who might help locate back issues.

The main name that comes to mind is <George Mirijanian>

George Mirijanian

longtime member of <Wachusett Chess Club>

https://www.worcestermag.com/story/...

I don't have a premium account but a search on <stone free Mirijanian> should find the contact info.

I also think <Chris Chase> is someone else to contact - he who wrote the last <Boston Globe> chess column.

And contacting whoever is handling either the <Metrowest> or <Boylston> CC's might be helpful too:

info_requests@metrowestchess.org
https://boylstonchess.org/board (Andrew Hoy - current president(?))

Let's not forget the current MACA itself:

http://www.masschess.org/contact/co...

Mar-04-24
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  perfidious: <zed>, knew both of them well in the bad old days.

Ta!

Mar-04-24  stone free or die: Figured as much...

Other areas in the country have gotten their old issues archived and online - it would be great to see the same done for <Chess Horizons>.

Mar-04-24  stone free or die: <<Tabanus:> Karpov - Timman Candidates Final (1990), to complete this cycle.>

At the risk of sounding a little bit part of the cheerleader squad - congratulations.

I know you've worked long and hard on all the aspects of this complicated cycle - and your writeups look top-notch (at least at first glance!).

Mar-05-24  WilhelmThe2nd: Heilpern - Taubenhaus (1887)

Apparently, throughout its publishing history, the title of the magazine 'Tygodnik Illustrowany' was sometimes spelled without the second 'l' in 'Illustrowany'. One of the years this happened was 1887. I have used that spelling below but when I submitted the first seven games of the match I used the two-'l' spelling (which is the same spelling under which it appears at the library websites I consulted).

<Match. Mr. Jan Taubenhaus, a Varsovian who now lives in Paris and is considered one of the strongest chessplayers there, is currently staying in our city. Mr. Taubenhaus has engaged in a match (pojedynku) with Mr. Jakob Heilpern, an engineer who won one of the prizes at the Warsaw chess tournament a few years ago, on the condition that the winner will be the first to win five games. The first and third games were won by Mr. Heilpern; the second and fourth were drawn.> (from the chess column of 'Tygodnik Ilustrowany', Aug. 15(27), 1887, no page number)

<Match. The further course of the struggle between Mr. Heilpern and Mr. Taubenhaus until last Sunday was as follows: The fifth game was won by Mr. Taubenhaus; the sixth was won by Mr. Heilpern; the seventh was drawn; Mr. Taubenhaus lost the eighth as a result of exceeding the time limit for reflection (on average 15 moves per hour). By Sunday, Mr. Heilpern had won 4 games, Mr. Taubenhaus 1 and 3 were drawn. On Sunday, Mr. Taubenhaus won a second game, and that was the end of the fight due to Mr. T.'s departure for Paris.> (from the chess column of 'Tygodnik Ilustrowany', Aug. 29(Sept. 10), 1887, no page number)

Note at the end of the 9th game:<After this game, Mr. Taubenhaus, forced by circumstances to leave Warsaw for Paris, having won two and lost four and drawn three, considered himself defeated as victory went to the first to win five games.> (from the chess column of 'Tygodnik Ilustrowany', Nov. 7(19), 1887, no page number; misspelling of Taubenhaus's name corrected)

Mar-05-24
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  Tabanus: <z> Thanks. That inspires me to start on the next cycle! With seven eighththfinals again etc.
Mar-05-24
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  Tabanus: Yusupov - Dolmatov Candidates Eighthfinal (1991).

A little more time-consuming this cycle, as the games have to be picked out (one by one I suppose) from Candidates Match (1991).

Mar-05-24  stone free or die: I'm still "butterfly-ing" around in the late 1800's Viennese chess scene, but somehow found myself back in the USA....

RE: Dr. Samuel Gold

A prolific Hungarian problemist (and physician), who was the first, and only, chess instructor for Carl Schlechter. Gold was also a long time editor of various chess columns in the Viennese press (starting in <Der Osten (1864)> and finishing with <Allgemeine Sport-Zietung (1892)> before relocating to NY, USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samue...

* * * * *

OK, a couple of items to discuss -

First, Olimpu Urcan (as he was known in 2006) did a profile of him (mostly as composer) here:

https://web.archive.org/web/2007082...

It contains an illustration of Gold, credited to the <NY Sun (1893-12-25)>.

Now, I found the issue at LOC, but it doesn't seem to have any such illustration:

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/...

The main chess column is the weekly Sunday article (Dec 24), but it's not there either.

Just to confirm, one can also search the clippings at <O'Keefe>:

https://www.chessarch.com/excavatio...

So - where did Urcan/06 find his illustration?

.

Mar-05-24  stone free or die: (Aside - having to call Urcan / Di Luppi feels the same to me as having to call Tweeter / X. Did we ever figure out the reason for the rebranding?)
Mar-05-24  stone free or die: Back on target...

<RE: Dr. Samuel Gold>

Having determined him as a significant chess figure, we need a bio page on <CG>, imo.

I think we should be able to do this even if we don't have a game in hand. A similar situation arose with Miron Haseltine.

Dr. Gold, being a problemist, could have a problem used as a placeholder - but I don't think <CG> has any such examples.

The plethora of published problems by Gold makes finding any games by him difficult enough, but he never seemed to participate in any of the Viennese competitions (as far as I know, I could be wrong).

So, the following find is important, if only because it allows us to set up a page for him on <CG>:

<
[Event "casual"]
[Site "Vienna AUT"]
[Date "1888.04.??"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Lendeh, K."]
[Black "Gold, Dr. Samuel"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C25n"]
[EventDate "1888.04.??"]
[Source "Wiener Mode N8 (1888-04-15) p25_325"]
[Source_url "https://books.google.com/books?id=Y0_0_cizXq- QC&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&pg=RA7-PA29"]
[Notes_1 "White's name is difficult to determine with 100% certainty"]
[Notes_2 "No commentary in source about game context, date taken from publication date"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.f4 exf4 4.d4 Qh4+ 5.Ke2 d6 6.Nd5 Bg4+ 7.Nf3 O-O-O 8.c3 Nf6 9.Kd3 Nxe4 10.Kxe4 Qh5 11.Nxf4 Re8+ 12.Kd3 Qf5+ 13.Kc4 d5+ 14.Kb3 Na5+ 15.Ka4 Qd7+ 16.Bb5 a6 17.Bxd7+ Bxd7+ 18.Kxa5 Bb5 19.Nxd5 Re6 {Black announced mate-in-two.} 0-1

>

If anyone else would be so kind as to offer their take on White's name(*), I'd be appreciative. Similarly for anyone shepherding the game and player onto <CG>.

(*) E.g. the last letter of the name could be an "n", but the curling at the bottom suggests "h" instead.

Here's the link without <CG> editing: https://books.google.com/books?id=Y...

Mar-06-24
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  jnpope: I downloaded the PDF and high-lighted/copied the text and pasted it into a text-editor. The Google Books OCRed text suggests "K. Lendey".

But I think the "d" is either the "ck" ligature or a lower case "a" (comparing with the "d" in Gold suggests that it's a different letter).

<...the curling at the bottom suggests "h" instead>

It could also be a "y" per Google (see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frakt...).

But as my Fraktur is usually pathetic I will quickly defer to any of our native Fraktur reading friends.

Mar-06-24
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  jnpope: Once we have sorted out that name I can add the game.
Mar-06-24  BarakSaltz: Lehner was a frequent name in Vienna chess literature back then, but I would not immediately vouch for it being the name of Gold's opponent in your "Wiener Mode" reference.

The 1887 "Wiener Schachzeitung" has a Muzio Gambit game where Dr. Gold beat Kochanowsky.

Mar-06-24  stone free or die: Well, <BarakSaltz> points out a Dr. Gold game where the opponent is clearly identified - perhaps that's a better game to be first.

Seems like I need to update my WSZ index page, as does <Chess Archeology> as well - since we both previously thought the "neue" WSZ run began on Jan 1888.

<BarakSaltz>'s game can be found here:

https://books.google.com/books?id=v... (G-11 bottom of page)

which shows the nWSZ run beginning on Jul 1, 1887!

Mar-06-24  stone free or die: So the WSZ (1887) was edited by Gold and Berger.

The WSZ (1888-onwards) series was originally edited by Fahndrich, Halprin and Marco.

Similar name, but the later decided to do a reset, and be more closely associated with the Wiener Schach-Club.

Mar-06-24  BarakSaltz: Like Dr. Gold, Max Bezzel was more known for problem composition than for play, but also played.

The following game between Dr. Henri/Heinrich von Pessl and Max Bezzel has quite modern opening play: von Pessl vs M Bezzel, 1857

Mar-06-24
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  jnpope: <z>, watcha talkin' 'bout Willis? I never thought anything about WSZ starting in 1888, so "both" is apparently just you.

The CA site is only guilty of having no entry for a WSZ 1887/1888, so I'll be adding it today.

The Marco, et al., run started in 1898, a decade later. Are you conflating the two?

Mar-06-24  stone free or die: Yes, I did conflate the dates, in fact I gave the wrong date for the Marco series. Sorry about that.

But both our indexes appreciate getting a previous missed entry added, which is better way to say it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9...

Mar-06-24  stone free or die: Of course, the entire overview is plainly documented on the wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiene...

.

Mar-06-24
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  jnpope: Ok, I've updated the CA website with the 1887-1888 WSZ.

I also added the lone "Wiener Zeitung" 1889 issue from the ANNO website. Does anyone know the story regarding this publication?
https://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/...
Mar-06-24
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  jnpope: Ok, I've added the Gold game:

S Gold vs L R von Kochanowski, 1887

Along with two additional Baron von Kochanowski games:

L R von Kochanowski vs H Friedjung, 1893
L R von Kochanowski vs M von Schellerer, 1897

I started pages for Samuel Gold and Ladislaus Felix von Kochanowski. I have no idea if Gold became a US citizen (I'm guessing he did, but I don't have any data in front of me at the moment).

I have no information on Heinrich Friedjung or Max von Schellerer.

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