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Jan-11-07
 | | OhioChessFan: Here's the World's Players. I love all but 3, and don't want to miss a single one: Chessgames Challenge |
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Jan-11-07
 | | Tabanus: Wow! Five pages to read, suddenly but not unexpected. Congratulations, all. This has been a dear hobby the last months, and I'd like to thank you all for this experience. I've learned a lot from more experienced players than me, and also from others, in several ways. I will not mention any names. <benjinathan> Ice malarky, ah, thanks. I agree with you that the time control benefited us more than GM Arno. It was not "unfair", but I think he underestimated the time it took us to put together all the engine and centaur analyses. We made more analyses in one day than he could have done in a week, and put them together by help of the forum system. So GM Nickel, if you read this, I think you never really had a chance with the black pieces! Possibly already 7...g6 was an error? I agree that we exploited this move very well by f4-f5, a4-a5, Qd2, Bb6, and h3 and Kh2. |
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Jan-11-07 | | Hidden Skillz: great work everybody involved in this game!! thanks for this opportunity Arno, too! |
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Jan-11-07 | | Starf1re: where can i read GMANs analysis of the game? |
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Jan-11-07 | | Artar1: As we congratulate each other, I would like to extend a very special thanks and give sincere recognition to the contributions made by Boomie! We did it man! Thanks and let's mix it up with Yury! We couldn't have done it without your help and excellent analysis! |
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Jan-11-07 | | whiteshark: Another bottle of Champaigne for <OhioChessFan>, please ! I caught 7 trolls and sometimes I put even my special <rookfile> into ignore but only overnight. I didn't sleep better, though. Crazy things... |
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Jan-11-07 | | Thorsson: I doubt very much that 7...g6 was an error. I think (for who can be certain?) that Black gets a lost game (or as near as dammit) if he gives up the pawn. |
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Jan-11-07 | | kkkkimura: You are still the man Arno! I can't beat anyone let alone a computer. It took hundreds if not thousands of us and our computers to beat you. The learning experience was amazing. Great job world on working together! |
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Jan-11-07
 | | tamar: I think we were a bit lucky that GM Nickel opted for 16...exf5 and 17...Qd7. After those moves, our super engines could always see a way to maintain initiative, and our human analysts could steer us from cashing in too early. A fantastic feeling to win in any case. |
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Jan-11-07
 | | Tabanus: <Thorsson> Where was the error, do you think? Or did we just outplay him? Well, you have answered this above. A series of aggressive moves with white. |
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Jan-11-07 | | TommyC: Well done, world.
I wrote up a brief (very brief) report about the game on my chess club's blog here: http://streathambrixtonchess.blogsp... If you think there is anything I should have added, please let me know in the comments there. Cheers. |
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Jan-11-07 | | Karpova: Thanks to <chessgames.com> for hosting this match - you did a great job and prevented misuse so that this agme didn't become another Kasparov vs The World, 1999 I already thanked GM Nickel on his page.
To save space I'll try to mention everybody just once. The MVP is clearly <Thorsson> like the subtle 28.h3 29.Kh2 showed - two great moves!
<Tomlinsky> was the first one to come up with 18.Qd2 and the <monad trap> after 19.Bb6 will not be forgotten (his website was also nice).
<Honza Cervenka> did a good job as usual. Many thanks to those ones who put up the forum system and <twinlark> organizing it (with strong analyst <Domdaniel> helping out for a while). There were many others like <Open Defence>, <YouRang>, <jepflast>, <themadhair>, <Nightranger>, <stevens>, <OhioChessFan>, <Eyal>, etc. <RandomVisitor> dedicated his brutally strong computers with the latest Rybka versions to the game and his forum. <Artar1> analysed a lot and also created the <Leviathan>. There were many analysts working hard to secure our victory: <Boomie>, <Noctiferus>, <isemeria>, <KnightLunatic>, <kwgurge>, <Wassily>, <Willem Wallekes>, <Tabanus>, <GufeldStudent> and others! <chesstoplay> brought the scholarship for strong analysts to live and <Dionyseus> won after <Thorsson> declined. This wouldn't be complete without mentioning the inimitable <RookFile> who had great influence in the beginning (like the 10.a4-manoeuver). Hopefully, I didn't forget anyone. But I also want to thank all the other contributers who supported the World during this struggle and to those who voted for good moves and demonstrated their love for this game! This success wouldn't have been possible without them and their willingness to change their votes when better alternatives were available. The only losers are those ones who tried to sabotage the challenge and to make mischief. They insulted the members of The World, posted fake analysis to cause confusion and they even had their supporters. But they failed miserably and are a disgrace to the team, <chessgames.com> and GM Arno Nickel! But this shouldn't take away attention from this great moment in the history of chess: The World beats a Grandmaster for the first time!
The game itself is a true beauty and it's always a pleasure to look at it! It's a great honour to read this sentence when looking at this page: <Welcome, Karpova! You are a member of team WHITE.> |
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Jan-11-07 | | Dionyseus: Grats to us! Would be interesting to hear what Kasparov thinks about this game, considering that he has previously played a game against the World. |
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Jan-11-07
 | | Tabanus: Since noone else has mentioned him, I would add <whiteshark> to the lists. His posts have not been many, but they have been important. Finally I'd like to thank Chessgames.com. |
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Jan-11-07 | | Karpova: <Tabanus> I agree with you about <whiteshark>! |
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Jan-11-07 | | Sark: I really like to win without computer help. Is this victory really ours? |
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Jan-11-07 | | azaris: <Edited highlights, part 1> 18. Qd2! Rfe8 19. Bb6 (<19...Nd5 20. Bd4 gxf5 21. Rf3 f4 22. Nxd5 Bxd5 23. Rxf4 Bxb3 24. Rf3 f6 25. Rg3+ Kf7 26. Qh6 >) |
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Jan-11-07 | | azaris: <Edited highlights, part 2> 29. Kh2 Qb5?! 30. fxg6 fxg6 31. Qg5 (<best, for if 31...Re2 32. Rf7 Rcc2
33. Kh1! and now 33...Rxg2?? 34. Qd8+ mates>) |
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Jan-11-07
 | | kwgurge: <Sark> < I really like to win without computer help. Is this victory really ours?> YES IT IS. And those of us who lived through it, know that is is and we don't have to explain ourselves to anyone. |
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Jan-11-07 | | Nibiru: hear, hear |
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Jan-11-07 | | azaris: <Edited highlights, part 3> 32. Bd8 (<Finally the trapped bishop is liberated.>) 32...Re6 33. Bf6 (<Trading off the best defender of the black monarch.>) 33...Rf8 34. Bxg7 Rxf3 35. Rxf3 Kxg7 36. b4! (<It was also possible to play for a win in the rook ending after 36. Qd8 Qe8 37. Qxe8 Rxe8 38. Rb3, but this way was much much easier.>) |
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Jan-11-07 | | Thorsson: <tamar: I think we were a bit lucky that GM Nickel opted for 16...exf5 and 17...Qd7. After those moves, our super engines could always see a way to maintain initiative, and our human analysts could steer us from cashing in too early.> I was surprised by 16...exf5, but it is hard to find anything good for Black. I think more and more that the Lutz/Kritz 15...Bc6 may have started the rot by removing a defender of e6/f5. |
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Jan-11-07 | | azaris: <Edited highlights, part 4> 39. b5 axb5 40. a6 Re1 41. Qb7+ 1-0 (<After 41...Qxb7 42. axb7 Re8 43. Rb3 Rb8 44. Rxb5 the computers don't see it but to a human observer this game is clearly over. The black rook is too passive and the black king one tempo too far away.>) |
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Jan-11-07 | | MrPatzer: Remember all the people who were saying we were doomed because we didn't play 1.d4? Seems so long ago... |
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Jan-11-07 | | Hugin: Thanks to all for this match and particular GM Nickel for being so sporty to face a world team!! Your the first GM to lose such match but i doubt no other team have been so strong..ps you will not be the last to lose games against a strong world team.... |
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