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| Jan-11-07 | | benjinathan: <Domdaniel> That is a great idea. I wonder if it might be helpful for him if he had the index as well, just in case he wants to do some wading. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | twinlark: Forum news. Nah just kidding, although I reckon Beer would be a superb forum to analyse 41...resigns. I'd like to congratulate everyone again, and I'd like to take this opportunity to post the following tribute from my profile, as a salute and an acknowledgement to the thousands of participants who made this unique slice of chess history possible: I'd like to congratulate <The World> team for a job superbly done. I'd like to thank Grandmaster Arno Nickel for providing us with the opportunity to play him in this format and for being such a worthy adversary. I'd also like to extend my profound and heartfelt thanks to <Domdaniel> (the Evil Wizard) and <OhioChessFan> for being such absolute pillars of support from beginning to end in their unwavering commitment in helping to set up and maintain the variation analysis workshops. Guys, the hours and energy we put into this were extraordinary, but it was worth it. I must also thank my colleagues who came to my forum on 26 September last year and said "I'll do it!" in response to my plea for forum owners to assist by setting up variation analysis workshops: <you vs yourself>, <stevens>, <Willem Wallekers>, <Wassily>. Thanks from the bottom of my heart for coming when you did, and helping to keep the organised resistance on its tottering infant legs and turn it into the strong soldier it became. <RandomVisitor>: There's been no-one more dedicated than yourself in anchoring the Team's analysis with your fabled machine. Thank you for being there for everyone for the entire duration of the game, as steady as the Rock of Gibraltar. This whole endeavour, and the victory which it produced, couldn't have succeeded without the assistance and commitment to everyone who hosted or ran a workshop forum at some stage of proceedings. I won't distinguish between you in terms of your relative contributions my friends, as this was very much a collective effort. What I can say is that <it couldn't have been done without you>: <AdrianP>, <Angus Canuck>, <Artar1>, <ChessClassics>, <Domdaniel>, <Eyal>, GulfeldStudent>, <Honza Cervenka>, <isimeria>, <JDK>, <jepflast>, <mack>, <monad>, <OhioChessFan>, <Open Defence>, <Nightranger>, <RandomVisitor>, <stevens>, <Tabanus>, <themadhair>, <Tomlinsky>, <WannaBe>, <YouRang>, <You vs Yourself>, <Wassily> and <Willem Wallekers>. Please let me know if I've missed anyone, so that I can give them the acknowledgement they have earned. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | twinlark: <continued>
Special thanks must also extend to our incomparable band of analysts who were the engine room of our win. While we all participated in analysis to some extent, it would be remiss of me not to acknowledge the contributions of <Artar1>, <Dionyseus>, <Domdaniel>, <Honza Cervenka>, <jepflast>, <Karpova>, <kwgurge>, <RandomVisitor>, <RookFile>, <Tabanus>, and <Thorsson>. A huge thank you and congratulations to all 2000 plus participants in this extraordinary game, whose commonsense and diligence ensured that we stayed on the narrow and hazardous path to victory. As for <Chessgames.com>, what can we say? Without you, your work, your behind the scenes negotiations, you continuing drive to improve this site, and your superb and unobtrusive support, none of this could have happened. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | amadeus: <Boomie: The most coveted prize in all of chess: The Dancing Rook> That's right. Congratulations everyone. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | chesstoplay: Did I read Arno Nickel's note correctly?
There is a rematch already set up for later this year!!! |
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Jan-11-07
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Jan-11-07
 | | WannaBe: Here, I'll be <twinlark> and do a forum update: To shake hand with our opponent: Arno Nickel To discuss the line 41...1-0 : Beer, Beat Bollinger, Norbert Krug, J Perrier, or J Daniels To exercise the "Devil's Adv. Forum": User: YouRang To discuss potential 1. d4 from GM Shulman: Chessgames Challenge: Y Shulman vs The World, 2007 To flame/troll/duplicate post: Robert James Fischer :-)) |
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| Jan-11-07 | | mack: One trip to Costcutter later and I'm stocked up with more booze than you could shake your first at. Whilst I've not been nearly as important to this game as many others, it has been an all-too-large part of my life for some months now. Party on! |
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| Jan-11-07 | | djmercury: It was a bit of time ago so I don't remember really well, but wasn't 19. ... Nd5 more natural than Ng4? I personally put more effort in Nd5 before Ng4 was played by Arno. Or we had also a strong plan against Nd5? |
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| Jan-11-07 | | jepflast: <Ohio: LOL, just can't pull myself away.> Yeah, I gotta make myself stop somehow. I guess that's where the champagne comes in. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | soberknight: I was one of the silent voters, but I read much of the discussion and analysis starting at move 27, when I first noticed this game. It was well played on both sides, and it seems that GM Nickel's fate was decided by one or two relatively minor mistakes. I did not understand the point of h3 and Kh2, and voted against them, but others have extolled the positional brilliance of those quiet moves. Otherwise, I tended to vote with the majority. I want to join the collective voice of people thanking GM Nickel for participating in this game. It's fun to win, of course, but I cannot claim any credit for that. The most important lessons from this game for were that correspondence chess can allow time for analysis beyond the familiar constraints of otb play, and that a team of dedicated users, with good communication and computer assistance, can play a nearly flawless game of chess. I would never have learned anything from the myriad reams of analysis without the organizing efforts of <Domdaniel>, <OhioChessFan>, and the FEN shui parlor of <YouRang>, among others. Kudos also to <Brent Baccala> for developing an endgame database, which I hope will come in handy in the anticipated game versus GM Shulman. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | twinlark: I have to thank my good friend User: JoeWms, whose support and assistance at critical moments so outweighs his seemingly modest contribution that it's not funny. Cheers Joe! You've been superb. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | GoldenKnight: <<avidfan:> Thanks to <Random Visitor, twinlark, Thorsson, Domdaniel, Honza Cervenka, Rookfile, Rookfile, Karpova et al.> for their tireless work in achieving this victory.> I cannot say it any better. What a victory! It was a privilege to be in on the thought processes of a game at such a high level. I hope that cg.com will save these pages. I will want to review all of them eventually. I have already learned a few things. I will be in on the ground floor in the next one. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | whiteshark: The last time I saw my family was months ago. I even lost my job due to extended nighttime analysis. But to be on the 'wrong side' with the last move, that is really bitter. (lol) |
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| Jan-11-07 | | Thorsson: I have a glass of Beaumes de Venise in my hand, and I raise a toast to a true gentleman, Herr Arno Nickel. It's interesting that he has picked on two moves (f4 & Qd2) that (if memory serves me well as this was before the CG vote counter) were pretty damn close and highly debated. IMO too, even though he hasn't mentioned it, critical was following up f4 with f5, a move which somehow left one Topalov fan (and how strange was that?) foaming at the mouth. Without this logical follow-up our previous good work (which IIRC began with another close call, Qg4) would have all been wasted. So to all of those who voted for this series of aggressive moves (and I regard it as essential to play aggressively as White in CC) I award the "Distinguished F-Pawn Cross" or DFC for short. Or Short, a player who has always played aggressively with White. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | JakOTheShadows: woo!!! Go WORld!! Thanks everyone especially twinlark and all those wo had forums and posted analysis . i think i learned a lot from this game.
Thanks G-Man |
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| Jan-11-07 | | GoldenKnight: I've said it once before, but it bears repeating: in this game the whole was definitely greater than the sum of its parts. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | arctic tern: Wow! We won!
And by 'we' I mean I was just along for the ride. I learned a lot in this game, thanks to all the world members and to Arno Nickel for making this an enjoyable and illuminating experience. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | benjinathan: I think the time controls is one of the most interesting issues in this game. Arno mentions it in his posts. I think he made a mistake by not taking more time. But I think that mistake arose out of an incorrect assumption, that being that the faster he went, the less time that the world would have to analyze. However, the truth was that there were so many who were willing to spend massive amounts of analysis time move after move, it could never be said that the world did not have enough time. I think he will see this if he reads these pages. I worry that the time controls were unfair. However, that concern is tempered by the fact that he virtually never used his full time allotment and only one of his extensions. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | jepflast: <Thorsson: IMO too, even though he hasn't mentioned it, critical was following up f4 with f5,> Yes! 16. f5! was one of my favorite moves. In fact, every single one of our pawn moves turned out to be very important. I learned a lot from the effectiveness of our a-pawn advance especially. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | azaris: I don't know what my memory capacity is, but the analysis of this game in its entirety certainly maxed it out. I went through some of the analysis about the early middlegame and had no recollection of the things discussed back then, despite having a disctinct memory of following intimately every move and most of the analysis on this page from the very start. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | whatthefat: Congratulations World Team! And deep thanks to GMAN. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | ltsiros: I wonder if GMAN really considers that we used computers for our analysis |
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| Jan-11-07 | | whiteshark: Looking at all our moves
1.e4
2.Nf3
3.d4
4.Nxd4
5.Bd3
6.Nb3
7.Qg4
8.Qe2
9.O-O
10.a4
11.a5
12.Be3
13.Nc3
14.f4
15.cxd3
16.f5
17.exf5
18.Qd2
19.Bb6
20.Nd4
21.Qf4
22.Nxc6
23.d4
24.Qd2
25.Rf3
26.Nxd5
27.Raf1
28.h3
29.Kh2
30.fxg6
31.Qg5
32.Bd8
33.Bf6
34.Bxg7
35.Rxf3
36.b4
37.Qd8
38.Qb6
39.b5
40.a6
41.Qb7+
I love them all and I don't want to miss a single one. |
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| Jan-11-07 | | Whitehat1963: Even though I advocated 32. Bc5!?, I'm glad The World played 32. Bd8 instead. From then on I think we were in control. We quickly forced an exchange of bishops and rooks and GMAN's pawn structure doomed him. Nevertheless, I still think it might have been interesting to see the outcome of 32. Bc5!? Qc6 33. Bb4 etc. Then again, we may have lost that way! |
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