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Nov-22-06
 | | OhioChessFan: So. How about 28...anything
29. b4 anything
30. h4? |
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Nov-22-06
 | | Tabanus: <Karpova> Qd3, I guess you mean "28.Qd3" |
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| Nov-22-06 | | Thorsson: <OhioChessFan: I escaped the salt mine just in time to see the move played. Sorry I couldn't do a summary. I will head home and write one up anyway for posteriority's sake.> There's something <fundament>ally wrong about writing for your posterior. |
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Nov-22-06
 | | Domdaniel: <Ohio> - <I will head home and write one up anyway for posteriority's sake.>
Can I bum a copy of that when it's done? |
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Nov-22-06
| | Tabanus: Isn't posteriority left over to <Nightranger>? |
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| Nov-22-06 | | azaris: <So. How about 28...anything
29. b4 anything
30. h4?>
After 30...anything! there is 31.anything anything 32.only move anything!! and it looks like a draw. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | Karpova: <Tabanus: <Karpova> Qd3, I guess you mean "28.Qd3"> What are you talking about? I was just quoting. |
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Nov-22-06
| | Tabanus: <Karpova> Yes, sorry. I missed that ;) |
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| Nov-22-06 | | RookFile: <Brent Baccala: <RookFile> And I've been looking for programmers. You've been holding out on me.> I plead the 5th on C++. Too many years of my life were spent worrying about arcane nonsense. C# or Java is the <way>!!! |
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Nov-22-06
| | Domdaniel: <RV> - <I would like to take a look at the reasons for Qd3 and see what people thought they were getting.> Joking aside, I believe it would be a close tie between <because I'm an idiot> and <because everyone else is an idiot>. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | RookFile: <Thorsson: Actually the move with the most votes won.> Thorsson understands completely. h3 is ok, it has multiple transpositional possibilities. We still have a very reasonable position. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | Thorsson: <GufeldStudent> I think you fail to understand our dear friend TD. He probably didn't even vote for Qd3. Or he did it ten times. Imagine him with a big red nose in the middle of his face (I hope you don't suffer from Coulrophobia). |
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Nov-22-06
| | Tabanus: If now 28...Qb5, will there be a 29.Qd3 debate? |
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| Nov-22-06 | | RookFile: No, I'm convinced that white's best option is Kh2 and Rh1, followed by h4. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | twinlark: <Karpova> Those summaries are great value. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | djmercury: ok, let's give some homework, my two cents: 28. h3 Bg7 29. Kh2 Qb5 30. fxg6 fxg6 31. R1f2 (I think the immediate Qg5 doesn't work, because we loose control of c2 and e2 with black having the opportunity to gain more than a decent counterplay, someone can proove me wrong?) Re4 32. Qg5 Rf8 33. Rxf8 Bxf8 and here both Qd8 and Rc2 are possible, do we have enough to go for a win? Don't know. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | Willem Wallekers: Willem Wallekers: Hi all, have you noticed that after 28 ... Bg7 29. Kh2 black is in <zugzwang>? If he tries something on the Q-side, like Qb5 or Rc4, then we act on the other side with Qg5 or fxg6. But if he plays Re4, then Qd3 is probably safe, a later Rc2 allowing Qa8+. As I said before, it's not the final word, but what do you think? |
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| Nov-22-06 | | GufeldStudent: Well, that is true. He didn't vote for Qd3. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | Artar1: <Elixir of Life and whiteshark:> I believe RookFile's recommendation of 29.Rc3 stops Black's activity cold and gives White a small advantage. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | RookFile: Well, zugzwang means that any move of his weakens his position, and he's forced into doing it. Is that really true? |
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| Nov-22-06 | | benjinathan: I think 28.h3 was a solid move. At worst it is a waiting move that may well preserve our position until we get a better handle on what he is doing. There seems quite a good chance that all of the moves that were under consideration before will still be available after his move. That being said, I have not a clue what he will play next and I am excited to see it. My guess is bh7, but the fact that I think it will be that virtually guarantees it will be something else. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | Thorsson: <GufeldStudent: Well, that is true. He didn't vote for Qd3.> Well fxg6 then. He probably voted for 0-1. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | whiteshark: <<monad>:
<Our game after <move 28.h3 * after R.V.'s 27 ply line> and continued in the most likely line, seems flawless. Play through it on my domain, <web address on my forum>.>Starting from 34. Rxf8+ (end of RV-line) my 16 ply move-by-move quick-check follow your line until 44. Qxd5 suggesting then 44... Re6. I think it's a technical won position (QR-endgame) anyway.
Well, GMAN will be looking for earlier tricky-trappy moves. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | twinlark: <RookFile: Well, zugzwang means that any move of his weakens his position, and he's forced into doing it. Is that really true?> I thought it was the position would hold if it weren't for the compulsion <zwang> under the rules to move <zug>. Any move weakens <and> directly loses the game. I wondered in an earlier analysis (Ra3 I think it was) whether zugzwang was really an either/or thing like this, or more like a continuum like you're possibly implying...that is any move that's made necessarily weakens rather than loses the game. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | Willem Wallekers: <RookFile: Well, zugzwang means that any move of his weakens his position, and he's forced into doing it. Is that really true?> Well, I don't see a move that doesn't at least weaken part of his position,
either Q-side or K-side (or draws back his development). |
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