| European Club Cup (2017) |
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The 33rd European Chess Club Cup was a 7-round Swiss system team tournament held in the Avantgarde Hotel, Göynük, Antalya Province, Turkey, 8-14 October 2017. Time control: 90 minutes for 40 moves, then 30 more minutes till the end of the game, with a 30-second increment per move from move 1. Standings were determined by match points (2-1-0). Each match was played on six boards, and each team could have two reserve players. There were 36 teams and 255 players. Alkaloid (Macedonia) were the defending champions, while Globus (Russia) were the top seeds. Tournament director: Ozgur Solakoglu. Chief arbiter: Tugan Unal. Globus won with a score of 12/14 (+5 =2 -0), one point ahead of Alkaloid, Odlar Yurdu (Azerbaijan) and AVE Nový Bor (Czech Republic). Odlar Yurdu led by a point before the last round, but lost 2.5-3.5 in their final match against Nový Bor. Official site: http://euroclubcup2017.tsf.org.tr/
Chess-Results: http://chess-results.com/tnr302878....
OlimpBase: http://www.olimpbase.org/2017c/2017...
Chess.com: https://www.chess.com/news/view/glo...
ChessBase: https://en.chessbase.com/post/europ...
Chess24: https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-t...
TWIC: https://theweekinchess.com/chessnew... Previous: European Club Cup (2016). Next: European Club Cup (2018). Women's section: European Club Cup (Women) (2017)
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Year | Event/Locale | Opening |
| 1. H Steingrimsson vs Mamedyarov |
| 0-1 | 26 | 2017 | European Club Cup | C41 Philidor Defense |
| 2. Karjakin vs O Johannesson |
 | 1-0 | 25 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B48 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation |
| 3. S Bjornsson vs Giri |
 | 0-1 | 36 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B90 Sicilian, Najdorf |
| 4. Nepomniachtchi vs D Kjartansson |
| 1-0 | 20 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A18 English, Mikenas-Carls |
| 5. J Hardarson vs A Korobov |
| 0-1 | 24 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D43 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav |
| 6. Khismatullin vs J Halldorsson |
| 1-0 | 13 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A11 English, Caro-Kann Defensive System |
| 7. Ding Liren vs L Lodici |
| ½-½ | 29 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D35 Queen's Gambit Declined |
| 8. A Bertagnolli vs D Andreikin |
| 0-1 | 29 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B06 Robatsch |
| 9. Y Yu vs N Paltrinieri |
| 1-0 | 39 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A96 Dutch, Classical Variation |
| 10. A Barp vs Jakovenko |
| 0-1 | 50 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D93 Grunfeld, with Bf4 & e3 |
| 11. Kryvoruchko vs R Marsili |
| 1-0 | 41 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B36 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto |
| 12. F Seresin vs F Pancevski |
| 1-0 | 26 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A85 Dutch, with c4 & Nc3 |
| 13. O Sepp vs M Matlakov |
| 0-1 | 40 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A35 English, Symmetrical |
| 14. V Fedoseev vs E Ronka |
| 1-0 | 27 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A48 King's Indian |
| 15. T Kokkila vs Vitiugov |
| 0-1 | 64 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B28 Sicilian, O'Kelly Variation |
| 16. M Rodshtein vs H Koskinen |
| 1-0 | 37 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav |
| 17. H Salo vs I Khairullin |
| 0-1 | 58 | 2017 | European Club Cup | E47 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3 O-O 5.Bd3 |
| 18. A Goganov vs M Alava |
| 1-0 | 24 | 2017 | European Club Cup | E71 King's Indian, Makagonov System (5.h3) |
| 19. Harikrishna vs A Tari |
| 1-0 | 41 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B11 Caro-Kann, Two Knights, 3...Bg4 |
| 20. J Christiansen vs Navara |
| 0-1 | 39 | 2017 | European Club Cup | A09 Reti Opening |
| 21. M Ragger vs B Kvisvik |
| 1-0 | 41 | 2017 | European Club Cup | D02 Queen's Pawn Game |
| 22. O B Vea vs Sasikiran |
| 0-1 | 40 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B20 Sicilian |
| 23. V Laznicka vs A Bryn |
| 1-0 | 44 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B12 Caro-Kann Defense |
| 24. M Danielsen vs M Bartel |
| 0-1 | 17 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4 |
| 25. D Abbas vs E Inarkiev |
| 0-1 | 31 | 2017 | European Club Cup | B31 Sicilian, Rossolimo Variation |
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| Oct-06-17 | | Sularus: rooting for karjak and grischuk :) |
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| Oct-06-17 | | jphamlore: This seems to me to be the web site with the most information, including who the teams are and their players: http://euroclubcup2017.tsf.org.tr/ |
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| Oct-06-17 | | cplyakap: Kramnik's last chance for qualifying candidates via #2 Rating spot. Now his average rating in 2017 is 2803,91. The average of Wesley so is 2806,41. (According to Martin Bennedik.) Multiply both of them with 12 and Kramnik's total rating points in 2017 is 33647, So's 33677. The difference between them are 30 rating points. If there is equality, total rated games is the tiebreak. So's played 72 rated games since January 2017. Kramnik has played only 44. Thus, Kramnik should accumulate minimum 15,5 rating points (Because there are only two months to finish 2017, November and December ratings lists. The generel difference between their total ratings are 30, divide it with 2, 15.) to pass So and qualify the Candidates 2018. |
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| Oct-06-17 | | SometimesGood: Yes, Vlad needs at least +7. Then he may find something else to top up, as he said. The strategy is simple. Put him on white with sufficiently good "clients" |
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| Oct-06-17 | | studentt: Kramnik doesn't need to do that and he can't get +7 in this strong event. He could get a nomination. |
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| Oct-06-17 | | cplyakap: He could get but it might be changable and not guaranteed. Qualifying via rating spot is more conceivable at this point, he has a chance accumulate more rating points anyway. It is difficult but isn't impossible. |
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| Oct-06-17 | | jphamlore: I really think, as in the 2013-14 cycle, that the wildcard will be awarded to the winner of the Russian Superfinal in December, if that winner has a sufficiently high rating. That is why Kramnik is making such an effort that seems likely to fall short to qualify on his own by rating. Svidler could somehow make Candidates yet again. |
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 | | Sally Simpson: Hi jphamlore,
On the last two candidates they have announced the wildcard in early November. Svidler (2014 candidates)
https://www.chess.com/news/view/svi... Arnonian (2016 Candidates)
https://chess24.com/en/read/news/ar... This time with such a close race for the final candidates spots they might hold back or name someone who has no chance via the G.P. or rating. That could be Svidler, though he has had a wildcard before. That may figure in the final choice. |
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| Oct-06-17 | | jphamlore: <Sally Simpson> Good observation about previous cycles. The Russians have a problem that the old Kramnik is not the Kramnik of old. The Russian Superfinal greatly overlaps the London Chess Classic, so that Ian Nepomniachtchi could not have played in the Superfinal. This alone is making me reconsider my theory. |
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| Oct-06-17 | | BOSTER: Candidates 2018 will be much stronger than previous. |
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| Oct-06-17 | | not not: Giri should get this wildcard. He was the only undefeated one in the last Candidates. Why Holland dont pay for him to join the rest? |
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| Oct-07-17 | | PhilFeeley: 1. Why is England not better represented? (no Scotland or Ireland either) 2. Where is Gelfand (not playing for Israel)?
3. No Spanish (or Portuguese) team? Spain has a large number of chess players. 4. No Vallejo Pons, van Wely, MVL or Adams or (insert missing here). Do they not play this thing? |
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| Oct-07-17 | | jphamlore: I would assume MVL is spending all of his time preparing for the Palma de Mallorca FIDE Grand Prix, because finishing first or second in that event will be the difference between his going to the next level or otherwise waiting until he is 29 to even play in his first Candidates tournament. Is Globus the travel company? |
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| Oct-07-17 | | PhilFeeley: Globus must win this. Their top six are among the strongest in the world. No other team has such strength. |
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| Oct-07-17 | | waustad: Maybe having the European Club Cup in what is usually called Asia might have something to do with who goes. Many places are not represented at all. With 2 English and 3 Irish teams, the British Isles are represented, though not by the top players. |
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Oct-07-17
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Phil,
it's a Chess Club event. Edinburgh sent a team last year. Most of the players here will have to pay their own expenses. The super-duper players will have either an appearance fee paid for by their club or be sponsored in some other way. Entrance fee is paid for by the club's federation and each player also has to ante up a 100 Euros. There is prize money for the winners but it's not too much compared with other chess events. 8.000 Euros for the winning team. (usually divided amongst the winning team but see below.) 500 Euros for the player with the best board score. The Globus team:
Kramnik, Mamedyarov, Giri, Karjakin, Nepo, Grischuk, Khismatullin and Korobov, I was at the team briefing of Globus in Moscow airport. Kramnik told the other players if Globus wins he is keeping all the 8,000 Euros for himself. Giri objected so Kramnik punched him in the eye. This kind of action is not conducive to team spirit but Glubus are still expected to win. |
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| Oct-07-17 | | whiteshark: No German team either (Baden-Oos, Werder Bremen etc).
As chessbase.de puts it:
"The European Club Cup has always been a rather unloved child for the German Bundesliga teams. The OSG Baden-Baden did in the past some attempts to win this competition, but always failed. <Since each player can be matched at the same time in every federation, the Bundesliga teams always compete with teams from other federations for a playful line-up.> Apparently, Baden-Baden has become somewhat tired and renounced in the bidder's contest." http://de.chessbase.com/post/in-kue... |
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Oct-07-17
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Whiteshark,
There are a few German players representing other clubss. Dieter Nisipeanu (Csm Baia Mare, Montenegro)
Dennis Wagner (Nice Alekhine, France)
Jan Sprenger (LSG Leiden, The Netherlands)
Constantin Vogel (Benildus Chess Club, Ireland)
But you are correct, no German club. Ireland have entered three clubs. Good luck Boys. |
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| Oct-07-17 | | waustad: No Austrian team and the French team has only one French player. One problem for the German Bundesliga is that many of the players also play for other teams in other leagues. |
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| Oct-07-17 | | jphamlore: Padova is playing with a greatly reduced lineup from what they can usually field. Just last year they were able to hire MVL and Aronian, but both have great reasons to not be playing this year. Other players not playing who played last year are Richard Rapport and Li Chao. The standard of play in this event in the past seems very uneven, even for the super GMs, with various experimentations. |
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| Oct-07-17 | | Everett: Btw, is mamedyarov in for the candidates? |
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| Oct-07-17 | | jphamlore: For Mamedyarov to not make Candidates via Grand Prix, it seems to me MVL would need to finish in the top 2 without being tied for 2nd place for 140 points, and Radjabov would have to be in at worst a tie for 2nd with only one other player for 125 points: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIDE_... |
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| Oct-08-17 | | PhilFeeley: I just looked at the tournament page and didn't see a live games link. I find that hard to believe. Maybe later today (it's Oct. 8 where I am)? Meanwhile there's always chessbomb if they have it. |
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| Oct-08-17 | | PhilFeeley: Team pairings are up:
http://chess-results.com/tnr302878.... |
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