| 12th Norway Chess (2024) |
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Stavanger, Norway (27 May 2024-7 June 2024)
Scoring
1 2 3 4 5 6 Score Place/Prize
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1 Carlsen │•• ••│1½ 1 │0 1½│3 1½│3 1½│1½ 3 │ 17½ │ 1st NOK 700,000 │
2 Nakamura │1 1½│•• ••│3 1 │1½ 1 │1½ 1 │3 1 │ 15½ │ 2nd NOK 350,000 │
3 Praggnanandhaa │3 1 │0 1½│•• ••│1½ 1 │3 1 │1 1½│ 14½ │ 3rd NOK 200,000 │
4 Firouzja │0 1 │1 1½│1 1½│•• ••│1½ 1½│3 1½│ 13½ │ 4th NOK 170,000 │
5 Caruana │0 1 │1 1½│0 1½│1 1 │•• ••│3 1½│ 11½ │ 5th NOK 150,000 │
6 Ding │1 0 │0 1½│1½ 1 │0 1 │0 1 │•• ••│ 7 │ 6th NOK 120,000 │
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Format: Double Round Robin with Armageddon.
Game Results
1 2 3 4 5 6 W D L
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1 Carlsen │•• ••│½1 ½0│0 ½1│1 ½1│1 ½1│½½ 1 │ 7 7 2 │
2 Nakamura │½0 ½1│•• ••│1 ½0│½1 ½0│½1 ½0│1 ½0│ 5 8 5 │
3 Praggnanandhaa │1 ½0│0 ½1│•• ••│½1 ½0│1 ½0│½0 ½1│ 5 7 5 │
4 Firouzja │0 ½0│½0 ½1│½0 ½1│•• ••│½1 ½½│1 ½1│ 5 9 4 │
5 Caruana │0 ½0│½0 ½1│0 ½1│½0 ½½│•• ••│1 ½½│ 3 9 5 │
6 Ding │½½ 0 │0 ½1│½1 ½0│0 ½0│0 ½½│•• ••│ 2 8 6 │
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Introduction
If the first game (Classical time control) is drawn, a second game will be played (Armageddon time control). The player with White will continue with White in the Armageddon game. If the Armageddon game is drawn, Black wins. Scoring
Players will get the following points per round:
Win in the classical game: 3 points
Draw in the classical game & win in the Armageddon: 1½ points
Draw in the classical game & loss in the Armageddon: 1 point
Loss in the classical game: 0 points
Time Controls
Classical Game: 120m (+30 seconds/move starting at move 41).
Armageddon Game: White has 10 minutes and Black has 7 minutes (+1 second/move starting from at 41).
Official Site
https://norwaychess.no/en/
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| Result | Moves |
Year | Event/Locale | Opening |
| 1. Ding Liren vs Carlsen |
  | ½-½ | 14 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | E06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3 |
| 2. Caruana vs Nakamura |
| ½-½ | 30 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | C55 Two Knights Defense |
| 3. Ding Liren vs Carlsen |
| ½-½ | 65 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | A20 English |
| 4. R Praggnanandhaa vs Firouzja |
| ½-½ | 44 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | E04 Catalan, Open, 5.Nf3 |
| 5. R Praggnanandhaa vs Firouzja |
| 1-0 | 38 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | D02 Queen's Pawn Game |
| 6. Caruana vs Nakamura |
| 0-1 | 38 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | B56 Sicilian |
| 7. Carlsen vs Nakamura |
| ½-½ | 35 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | C70 Ruy Lopez |
| 8. Carlsen vs Nakamura |
| 1-0 | 50 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | C70 Ruy Lopez |
| 9. Ding Liren vs R Praggnanandhaa |
| 1-0 | 54 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | A15 English |
| 10. Firouzja vs Caruana |
| 1-0 | 46 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | A06 Reti Opening |
| 11. Firouzja vs Caruana |
| ½-½ | 32 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | D02 Queen's Pawn Game |
| 12. Ding Liren vs R Praggnanandhaa |
| ½-½ | 31 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | A20 English |
| 13. R Praggnanandhaa vs Carlsen |
| 1-0 | 37 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | B42 Sicilian, Kan |
| 14. Nakamura vs Firouzja |
| ½-½ | 32 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | D33 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tarrasch |
| 15. Nakamura vs Firouzja |
| 1-0 | 40 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | D12 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav |
| 16. Caruana vs Ding Liren |
| 1-0 | 31 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | C50 Giuoco Piano |
| 17. Caruana vs Carlsen |
| 0-1 | 66 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | C50 Giuoco Piano |
| 18. Nakamura vs R Praggnanandhaa |
| 1-0 | 86 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | E46 Nimzo-Indian |
| 19. Firouzja vs Ding Liren |
| 1-0 | 34 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | D02 Queen's Pawn Game |
| 20. Firouzja vs R Praggnanandhaa |
| 1-0 | 60 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | E11 Bogo-Indian Defense |
| 21. Firouzja vs R Praggnanandhaa |
| ½-½ | 34 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | D25 Queen's Gambit Accepted |
| 22. Ding Liren vs Nakamura |
| 0-1 | 54 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | D06 Queen's Gambit Declined |
| 23. Carlsen vs Firouzja |
| 1-0 | 82 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | C67 Ruy Lopez |
| 24. R Praggnanandhaa vs Caruana |
| 1-0 | 77 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | E06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3 |
| 25. Nakamura vs Caruana |
| ½-½ | 30 | 2024 | 12th Norway Chess | E45 Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3, Bronstein (Byrne) Variation |
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Jun-05-24
 | | jnpope: Working on a set of cross-tables for when this odd-format tournament is finished:
Game Collection: Norway Chess 2024 |
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Jun-05-24
| | jnpope: Inspired by another odd-format event:
London (1883) |
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| Jun-05-24 | | 1300patzer: Thank you jnpope for the London 1883 link, it's a fascinating read. The rules had draws being replayed up to the third try; was that policy adopted elsewhere? Also, it seems 2-player time clocks made their debut there. |
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Jun-05-24
 | | Sally Simpson: London 1883.
We actually has a Thomas Bright Wilson chess clock in the Edinburgh Club http://www.chessmaniac.com/wp-conte... (do not know if it works or not - it is locked away.) Never knew it was an idea of Blackburne's. That is two things I have learned this week. The other being who was the first player to suggest the 50 move rule. It was Ruy López de Segura in his book 'Libro de la invención liberal y Arte del juego del Axedrez ' We have a copy of that as well - again that too is locked away. (The club have been trying for years to get me locked away but I have a good lawyer.) |
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| Jun-06-24 | | Rdb: 1)Scandinavia most commonly refers to Denmark, Norway, and Sweden 2)The term "Scandinavia" can sometimes also refer to the Scandinavian Peninsula, which excludes Denmark but includes a part of northern Finland 3)In English usage, Scandinavia is sometimes used as a synonym for Nordic countries. Iceland and the Faroe Islands are sometimes included in Scandinavia for their ethnolinguistic relations with Sweden, Norway and Denmark. While Finland differs from other Nordic countries in this respect, some authors call it Scandinavian due to its economic and cultural similarities. 4)Nordic countries include :
The sovereign states of Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden.
The autonomous territories of the Faroe Islands and Greenland (Denmark)
The autonomous region of Åland (Finland) |
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| Jun-06-24 | | fabelhaft: Looks promising today, with Firouzja vs. Carlsen, where Firo can fight for first if he wins and Carlsen won’t be altogether happy with a draw since there is also Naka vs Ding, where Naka may take over the lead with a win. Also Caruana vs Pragg, where Caruana might want to save his tournament a bit with a win. |
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Jun-06-24
 | | Atterdag: Hi, < ex0duz>
I hesitate to respond to your pretty long post, since this is a forum for mutual use. In case you want further discussion, please shift to my forum. It is a genuine pleasure for me to be contradicted in such a sober and well-argumented way as you have exercised, and for that I thank you. <Well. If Ding doesn't deserve it, who does? Someone has to be champion. Would you agree that he deserves it the most according to the rules which he had no controls over?> There seems to be a slight but important difference in the semantics of the word “deserve”. When it was written that DL “fully deserved” to be the WC, I interpreted it as an acknowledgement of his overall merits. That they logically and lead to the culmination of becoming the champ. That would – IMO – be the case for Caruana and Nepomniachtchi, who both had qualified and played matches with Carlsen – AND won several high-grade tournaments prior to the Candidates in question. That was not the case for DL – IMO and according to the mentioned record documented by <fabelhaft>. As I wrote, DL won the title <fair and square> according to the rules and that is, of course, good enough for acknowledging that particular acknowledgement. Not, however, to fulfil my criteria for the word <deserved>. I am sure you disagree, but that’s how I see it. <Like you claim nepo played better in the tournament before the last game, but does that really matter? … etc.> Objectively not, of course. You kick in an open door with your argumentation. One eternal thing can be said of chess: the result is always what it is: an objective, indusputable fact. But, hence my first notions, my remarks were not about that but about the addition of the extra laud, “fully deserved”, which implicates a higher justice in the achievement. That was – IMO – not the case in that match. But yes, as also said, DL kept his cool, when Nepo didn’t and so he won. <Same with everything else. Maybe Ding got lucky to qualify, and thus you think he didn't deserve being champ. But do you also think that anyone else deserved it more? I doubt it. So you are really just complaining about the rules and that even though he deserves it the most of all players, because of the way he won, he is not a real legitimate champion. I think that and claiming he didnt or doesn't deserve to be the WC are different things.> This continues the same discrepancy in interpreting the word “deserve”. I need not repeat that I fully acknowledge DL’s possession of the title and the legitimacy in the process of winning it.
I think I have stated numerous times that the Candidates that Nepo won, the match that DL won, both were a result of the mess, Carlsen left behind when he resigned from the title at the worst possible moment in the process. Neither Nepo nor Ding Liren are evidently to blame for that – goes without saying. As for the rest of your post, I agree with most of it. It seems that I have to (once again) emphasize, though, that my intention was/is by no means to belittle less degrade the person Ding Liren or his merits as a strong chessplayer. I just want to proportionate his importance and place as a WC and GM in the chess world, when it is claimed that they are a result of a higher order & justice. |
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Jun-06-24
 | | MissScarlett: <It’s just the worst version of me: Ding Liren on his struggles> https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/othe... |
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Jun-06-24
| | Atterdag: Thanks for this great link. It fills me with sadness and compassion to read about the calamities, Ding Liren endures these times. I noticed he now specifically adds the word "mental" to his condition, which excludes physical aspects. |
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Jun-06-24
 | | perfidious: Ding's candour is admirable. Above all, I hope he regains his balance in life. The 64 squares will take care of themselves. |
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Jun-06-24
| | Sally Simpson: Re The Ding Interview above.
Yes very sad reading.
He says regarding the World Title match;
“Still many months to go..After I get back to China I will start to prepare a little bit.” A little bit! It is early days yet but plan A appears to be avoid any prep of Gukesh. We may be in for a treat of obscure openings and variations. |
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Jun-06-24
| | Atterdag: After round 9:
Carlsen 16 - Nakamura 14.5 - Pragg 13 - Firouzja 12 - Caruana 10.5 - Ding Liren 6. |
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Jun-06-24
| | jnpope: Updated scoring and results tables:
Game Collection: Norway Chess 2024
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Jun-07-24
| | Sally Simpson: All the classical games in rounds 7, 8, 9 and 10 were drawn. It took a while for them to realise that losing a classical game and awarding a rival 3pts and getting nothing in return was not the way to go. I'm up for an Armageddon shoot out after a drawn game. But the scoring needs tampering with. Winner of the classical game gets 1pt. if drawn the winner of the Armageddon gets the ½ point, the loser nothing. It appears Carlsen won it. |
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Jun-07-24
| | perfidious: Looks that way; had Nakamura won the classical game, with Carlsen failing to do so, Naka would have finished no worse than first ex aequo. |
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Jun-07-24
| | jnpope: Event complete at 51 games played. Standings, etc., have been added to the event bio box above. |
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| Jun-07-24 | | JustAnotherMaster: when the rubber hits the Road MC hits them on the head. |
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| Jun-08-24 | | 1300patzer: A quick(!) calculation counting classical results the usual way and tossing the Armaggedon points gives (please correct me if I erred:) Carlsen, Nakamura 6
Pragg 5.5
Firouzja 5
Caruana 4.5
Ding 3
Nice result for Pragg, with classical wins over Carlsen and Caruana; he's played himself solidly into the elite ranks over the past year. Firouzja would have scored higher had he not blundered in several even endgames. No doubt a disappointing tournament for Caruana. Someone mentioned that Ding had long covid. If true, and given the Chinese government's concealment and sanitization of pandemic statistics, Ding may be unable to mention anything about it. He may even be unable to avoid competition until he recovers, because of political pressure. That's pure speculation on my part. |
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| Jun-08-24 | | nok: So all the hullabaloo which obscured the standings during the tournament was unnecessary. We'd have the same results with good ole 1-0 scores and a most wins tb. |
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Jun-08-24
| | jnpope: This also appears to be true with the women's tournament. It appears this scoring format offers nothing more than some bonus Armageddon games to amuse the fans. |
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| Jun-08-24 | | SkySports: <Sally Simpson: Correct offramp, Denmark has uprooted itself and wandered south to a warmer climate. Last seen heading for the Mediterranean possibly to sit next to Malta.>
And what about Iceland? |
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| Jun-08-24 | | SkySports: <nok: So all the hullabaloo which obscured the standings during the tournament was unnecessary. We'd have the same results with good ole 1-0 scores and a most wins tb.> It doesn't seem so to me. Carlsen and Naka would have played tie-break games (as it now happens in all the major tornaments in case of tie); with the current format Carlsen won without it. |
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Jun-08-24
| | jnpope: <SkySports>, if you accept nok's premise of a "a most wins tb" then he's correct, the standings would have seen no difference. This Classical/Armageddon 3, 1.5, 1, 0, point scoring system resulted in the same results as a Classical event with a most wins tie-break. Under that rule (i.e. nok's premise) there wouldn't have been a need for a play-off between Carlsen and Nakamura (Carlsen had three wins and Naka two), which I believe begs the question as to why have this bizarre format and oddball scoring system? Perhaps next year the format could simply be Classical games only, a most wins first tie-break, followed by a four game Armageddon mini-match play-off as a final tie-break if necessary. |
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| Jun-08-24 | | Olavi: With different rules they would have followed a different tournament strategy. |
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Jun-08-24
| | perfidious: Yes, very clearly.
As an ancient saying runs:
<If the dog hadn't stopped to take a s***, he'd have caught the rabbit> |
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