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TOURNAMENT STANDINGS
(SPECIAL SCORING IN EFFECT: 3 POINTS PER WIN; 1 POINT PER DRAW)
8th Edmonton International Tournament
Lazaro Bruzon Batista23(+7 -0 =2)[games]
Nigel Short17(+5 -2 =2)[games]
Richard Wang14(+3 -1 =5)[games]
Eric Hansen14(+4 -3 =2)[games]
Victor Mikhalevski11(+2 -2 =5)[games]
Rodney Oscar Perez Garcia11(+2 -2 =5)[games]
Edward Porper10(+2 -3 =4)[games]
Maxim Doroshenko8(+2 -5 =2)[games]
Dale R Haessel6(+1 -5 =3)[games]
Robert Gardner4(+0 -5 =4)[games]

Chessgames.com Chess Event Description
8th Edmonton International (2013)

Crosstables(1, 4) (a special 3-1-0 scoring system was employed for this tournament to award prizes):

#  Player                 Old Perf New  High   Results     Total  Total (modified) 
1  Lazaro Bruzon Batista 2734 2789 2758 2758 X111=1111=      8       23 
2  Nigel Short           2650 2621 2646 2689 0X=11011=1      6       17
3  Richard Wang          2450 2599 2484 2484 0=X====111      5½      14
4  Eric Hansen           2598 2538 2587 2612 00=X1=1011      5       14
5  Rodney Perez Garcia   2442 2511 2464 2464 =0=0X==1=1      4½      11
6  Victor Mikhalevski    2602 2493 2583 2664 01===X=01=      4½      11
7  Edward Porper         2502 2460 2494 2556 00=0==X11=      4       10
8  Maxim Doroshenko      2482 2373 2462 2462 0001010X==      3        8
9  Dale R Haessel        2283 2351 2292 2332 0=00=00=X1      2½       6
10 Robert Gardner        2295 2305 2294 2387 =0000===0X      2        4
For the 1st time in this tournament history's series, Nigel Short returned to defend his Edmonton International (2012) championship title. The tournament took place at Alberta from June through July.

Next: 9th Edmonton International (2014) (Cuban GM Lazaro Bruzon Bautista instead chose to compete at the 49th Capablanca Memorial (2014) next summer, rather than defending his title here).

Websites: (1) https://ratings.fide.com/tournament... (FIDE crosstable), (2) https://ratings.fide.com/tournament... (tournament advertisement), (3) https://www.fide.com/component/cont... (FIDE news article), (4) http://www.chess.ca/crosstable?tour... (Canadian Federation crosstable), (4) http://edmonton-international.com/H...

 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 45  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. E Porper vs Short 0-14120138th Edmonton InternationalA10 English
2. D Haessel vs L Bruzon Batista 0-14320138th Edmonton InternationalD47 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
3. Mikhalevski vs E Hansen ½-½3420138th Edmonton InternationalD72 Neo-Grunfeld, 5.cd, Main line
4. R Gardner vs R Wang 0-13420138th Edmonton InternationalD17 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
5. M Doroshenko vs R O Perez Garcia 0-13220138th Edmonton InternationalD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
6. E Porper vs Mikhalevski  ½-½2420138th Edmonton InternationalD80 Grunfeld
7. E Hansen vs M Doroshenko 0-13920138th Edmonton InternationalB12 Caro-Kann Defense
8. R Wang vs D Haessel  1-02620138th Edmonton InternationalD05 Queen's Pawn Game
9. R O Perez Garcia vs R Gardner  1-05320138th Edmonton InternationalB08 Pirc, Classical
10. Short vs L Bruzon Batista 0-12320138th Edmonton InternationalE06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3
11. R Gardner vs E Hansen 0-12720138th Edmonton InternationalE46 Nimzo-Indian
12. M Doroshenko vs E Porper 0-14620138th Edmonton InternationalE06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3
13. D Haessel vs R O Perez Garcia  ½-½2220138th Edmonton InternationalD45 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav
14. Mikhalevski vs Short 1-06720138th Edmonton InternationalB00 Uncommon King's Pawn Opening
15. L Bruzon Batista vs R Wang 1-03020138th Edmonton InternationalA04 Reti Opening
16. Mikhalevski vs M Doroshenko 0-13520138th Edmonton InternationalA11 English, Caro-Kann Defensive System
17. Short vs R Wang ½-½4520138th Edmonton InternationalB25 Sicilian, Closed
18. E Porper vs R Gardner  ½-½3120138th Edmonton InternationalE17 Queen's Indian
19. E Hansen vs D Haessel 1-02720138th Edmonton InternationalD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
20. R O Perez Garcia vs L Bruzon Batista ½-½4220138th Edmonton InternationalC15 French, Winawer
21. R Gardner vs Mikhalevski  ½-½6420138th Edmonton InternationalD91 Grunfeld, 5.Bg5
22. D Haessel vs E Porper  0-14520138th Edmonton InternationalD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
23. M Doroshenko vs Short 0-17220138th Edmonton InternationalD02 Queen's Pawn Game
24. L Bruzon Batista vs E Hansen 1-03320138th Edmonton InternationalE06 Catalan, Closed, 5.Nf3
25. R Wang vs R O Perez Garcia  ½-½3720138th Edmonton InternationalD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
 page 1 of 2; games 1-25 of 45  PGN Download
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Kibitzer's Corner
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Jun-27-13  Big Pawn: <Everett> I remember all the draws back in the 90's. The games sucked.

Rules against early drawing might be working. I didn't know about them really. I haven't been paying attention. But what is so unfair about this scoring system? It seems really good! It provides a great incentive to win!

Jun-27-13  Edmontonchessclub: <BigPawn>, I agree. My favourite tournaments have both: Rules against early drawing, and 3-1 scoring. Quite a few top-level tournaments (some that Magnus Carlsen plays in) have adopted this system.
Jun-27-13  parmetd: yea but even if a tournament is good that has nothing to do with 3-1 which is shameful for the chess world.
Jun-27-13  Edmontonchessclub: I disagree, it is not shameful, it is a positive improvement. And many others feel the same way, though they may not be in the majority.

Shameful is corruption in government, or the needless death of a child. You should reserve strong words for the proper circumstances.

Jun-27-13
Premium Chessgames Member		  HeMateMe: The 40 move draw rule, and no draw without the arbiter inspecting the position seem reasonable.

Looking at Magnus fight his way to full points in drawish looking positions tells me that it is the player's motivation to win the tournament, not the scoring rules, which is the most important factor.

Jun-27-13  achieve: <yea but even if a tournament is good that has nothing to do with 3-1 which is shameful for the chess world.

Jun-27-13 Edmontonchessclub: I disagree, it is not shameful, it is a positive improvement. And many others feel the same way, though they may not be in the majority.

Shameful is corruption in government, or the needless death of a child. You should reserve strong words for the proper circumstances.> I whole-heartedly agree. I do not by any means as a rule copy/paste entire posts, but here the exception-to-the-rule principle fully applies.

Contrastingly, political or elitist jargon tends to make use of an insider vocab where all kinds of euphemisms have replaced incidents and actions that <do merit> characterizations like "shameful", "disgraceful", "atrocious", instead of "unfortunate incident / collateral damage / worrisome developments" etc.

At the same time a PM who was forced to step down is being described in the Media in exaggerated terms that do not in any way relate to real-life horror situations that do merit such powerfully worded denunciation.

The old doublespeak ploy, Black becomes White, and vice versa.

Speaking of, still more Black wins?

Only one righteous and upstanding man has played <1. e4> sofar?

That would be quite errr.... a disgrace? ;)

Thankfully we can still use irony, sarcasm, and hyperbole to colour our descriptions and relay our feelings.

Jun-27-13  achieve: A cursory glance reveals Black wins still leading, by 9 to 6, over White, and a meager two <1. e4>s in TWENTY GAMES??

[insert epiglottal sounds indicating abhorrence]

Jun-27-13  Everett: I recognize the points on both sides of the scoring system, and I certainly don't want to antagonize anyone. I have come to a bit of a realization though, which may be obvious to others but hasn't been to me until recently though: chess is a hard game in general, and even harder to win. In fact, something extraordinary has to happen at the chessboard to defeat a good player, and I've grown to love this about chess. I've grown to appreciate stalemates and fortresses, and the ingenious attempts to circumvent these drawing traps in the middlegame. I've really come to enjoy modern chess, the striving for fresh territory, the crazy positional tactics, the chaotic harmony.

And after all that, often there is a draw, but there is really no shame in this. In fact, chess is likely the most interesting game ever created where there is often no winner.

On a related note, I have a "dream" of sorts: a player will come around who is unbeatable, great in all areas, both physical and mental. Yet he subtly allows himself to "fall" into a drawing trap every game. He is equal or better after brilliant play in every single game, but is content just to draw.

Jun-27-13  parmetd: You pretty much just summed up the problem with 3-1-0 without even trying Everett. To give more points for a win is to say a draw is a shameful - when we know draws are part of the game. 3-1-0 also increases the chances of collusion and the chances that a person who DID not win the event might actually win based off incorrect scoring (as has happened before). At any rate, life is too short to argue. I salute people that are trying to help chess. I always wonder about those who help with one hand and hurt with the other the very game they are trying to help.
Jun-27-13  dx9293: I also agree and have said many times (Biel, London, etc.) that 3-1-0 is stupid and a crime against chess.

<parmetd> is on the money: proponents of 3-1-0 *say* that they are not against draws, only against short draws, but I don't believe this. I really think it's this harmful mentality that chess needs to somehow be "entertaining" and so we "need" decisive results.

Sofia rules should be enough to stop short draws if that's what organizers REALLY want to avoid...but I think the real intention is to have as few draws as possible, period. THAT I think is wrong.

Still, I commend the Edmonton organizers for continuing to stage this nice event!

Jun-28-13  parmetd: I agree <dx9293>. Also, I think Kramnik's solution that if a game was drawn too quickly then do an exhibition... or Seirawan's solution to switch colors should suffice... Otherwise, just acknowledge that draws DO happen. I have worked London Classic twice now and the one thing the players constantly hint as *the only* problem with the event is the 3-1-0 scoring. The players can't come out directly to say such things publicly because it is their paycheck... but suffice it to say sofia rules have worked.

Regardless, I 2nd <Still, I commend the Edmonton organizers for continuing to stage this nice event!>

Jun-28-13  Edmontonchessclub: Bruzon won again!
Jun-28-13
Premium Chessgames Member		  HeMateMe: Looks like Nige won't be getting the sled this year. Does second place get a couple of cases of Molson? No small consolation, IMO.
Jun-28-13
Premium Chessgames Member		  Dionysius1: <HeMateMe> Yes, that's Gary Kasparov and Nigel Short.
Jun-28-13  Edmontonchessclub: Bruzon's live rating should be over 2700 again, with his win last night over GM Hansen.
Jun-28-13  waustad: I just clicked on it and it is still going. It is so very rare that I deal with a tournament that is West of where I live.
Jun-29-13  Edmontonchessclub: Bruzon won yet again. 5 wins and one draw so far.
Jun-29-13  twinlark: <Edmontonchessclub: Bruzon's live rating should be over 2700 again, with his win last night over GM Hansen.>

Not quite.

That win didn't fully recover the points lost because of his draw against Garcia. His subsequent win against Porper brought him up to 2699.8.

Bruzon has to defeat all 3 of his remaining opponents to reach 2700 and stay there as any draws will drag him back below 2700.

Jun-29-13  Edmontonchessclub: <Twinlark> Thanks.
Jun-30-13  Edmontonchessclub: Bruzon won again in round 7. So did Short.
Jun-30-13
Premium Chessgames Member		  HeMateMe: Who was the first winner of this event, eight years ago?
Jun-30-13  Doniez: Here you'll find the table with all the winners of previous editions http://www.edmonton-international.c.... By the way, congrats to GM Bruzon, he is now in the 2700 club again after his great performance!
Jun-30-13  Octavia: to draw a game seems to be a great achievement. If I could do that any time, I'd play in strong comps all the time & my grade would go up & up & up.

For a GM to draw against lower rated opposition is bad of course. Therefore in a comp such as this, no top player would draw if s/he could help it. Therefore the 3 - 1 system is unnecessary & insulting on top. Why tell the players how to play?

Jun-30-13  Edmontonchessclub: So the winner of the 1st Edmonton International, in 2006, was IM Peter Vavrak of Slovakia. He is now a GM.
Jun-30-13  Nicocobas: <twinlark> and <Doniez> Is Bruzón back at 2700 or not? Doesn't FIDE (or whatever the proper organization is) consider 2699.8=2700? You've got to be kidding.
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