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| Aug-01-11 | | drnooo: also you will notice that in their first eight encounters Alekhine was only one game ahead, for all practical purposes they played even. After that, after the Heil Hitlers began was where the chasm comes. But I am sure that this is just a coincidence. |
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Aug-01-11
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: It seems as if Alekhine (Alekhine!) was already in serious trouble after 10.Bc5. Amazing what Keres could do against even the best. |
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| Aug-01-11 | | ChitownChesster: Wow, what a pretty combination! I don't know much about chess history, but what drnooo is alluding to sounds pretty accurate in terms of the "spirit of the times." It was a very turbulent period in history and Keres was probably in an entirely different situation than Alekhine. |
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| Aug-01-11 | | Gregor Samsa Mendel: Although Alekhine's game looks bad from early on, it seems that <mulde> is correct in saying that if Alekhine had found 20...Bh3, the game would have been equal, at least in my quick patzerish assessment. |
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| Aug-01-11 | | sevenseaman: I want to acquire a book on my favorite area 'The Art of Sacrifice' - Spielmann or Shamkovich? Which one or both? |
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| Aug-01-11 | | sfm: I wonder what Keres had planned on 20.-,Bh3, the most obvious move in the position. Since Alekhine didn't play it, and Keres allowed it, there must be something, or at least something that looked like something. Anyone with a silicon brain? |
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Aug-01-11
 | | perfidious: <sevenseaman: I want to acquire a book on my favorite area 'The Art of Sacrifice' - Spielmann or Shamkovich?
Which one or both?>
Vladimir Vukovic's book would also be well worth your time. <chancho: ....but then again we all have a tendency to lie on occassion.> As a poker player, guess I know where I fit in!
<drnooo> Whilst Keres has never been one of my favourite players, he rates at the top with me when it comes to character. One question I ask those who would judge Keres or Alekhine for all that might have gone when they were in the Occupied Territories: who knows what they themselves might have done, faced with such draconian conditions in everyday living? There's plenty of evidence that Alekhine was far from the most moral person, quite apart from any question as to the degree to which he was complicit in the Pariser Zeitung pieces which appeared under his byline. Keres? Never seen or heard a bad word about him as a man or grandmaster. The worst thing I ever saw appear under his name regarded his views on the young Fischer, stating that he believed the future champion lacked objectivity regarding his opponents, as well as his own play. |
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| Aug-01-11 | | sfm: Maybe 20.-,Bh3 21.Nd4, e.g. -,Lxg2 22.Re1. Complicated. -,c5 is stupid, as White is clearly better after 23.Ne5, but how about -,Kb8 |
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| Aug-01-11 | | Artsemthon: 23.Qxd7+ and now 23...Rxd7 24.Re8+ Rd8 25.Rxd8# (either rook), or 23...Kb8 24.Qxd8+ Ka7 25.Qxf6 and White has won two rooks and a bishop. |
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Aug-01-11
 | | piltdown man: He should have been world champion. |
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| Aug-01-11 | | Once: It's our old friend - the weak back rank. How many times have we seen rapid mating combinations as a result of a king being trapped by his own pawns? |
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| Aug-01-11 | | morfishine: <23.Qxd7+> Oops, No more drinks for you Doctor... |
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Aug-01-11
 | | scormus: back rank defeat, no longer a stigma. I now feel honoured to be in such company |
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| Aug-01-11 | | sevenseaman: I used to call it 'Maths from Moscow' on a/c of the calculation involved but now I call it 'The Polka Dance' because it demands a lot of toughness and stamina, else it can tire one out. Misratdin Mehdi Oglu Iskandarov-Karen H, Grigoryan, Moscow, 2011. 
click for larger view w in 10, max against best defense. |
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| Aug-01-11 | | sevenseaman: <scormus> <back rank defeat, no longer a stigma. I now feel honoured to be in such company> Stigma it may not be. But what a patzer move is 22...Qb4? If a person like me happened to make it you'll hound me in my dreams too. Alekhine...he must have bee snoring in his chair. |
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Aug-01-11
 | | chrisowen: Blacks had little answer to queen takes bishop,
Steinitz might have had severe reprimand pure kedgeree it distinguising level defence for Mr Keres well played on Maestro <sevenseasman> trace PK similar route obvious great nh6 |
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| Aug-01-11 | | agb2002: White has a knight and a pawn for a bishop.
Black would probably consider 23... Rd6.
The black castle is poorly defended, in particular, the back rank and the pinned bishop. This suggests 23.Qxd7+: A) 23... Rxd7 24.Re8+ and mate next.
B) 23... Kb8 24.Qxd8+ Ka7 25.Qxf6, quite a massacre. |
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| Aug-01-11 | | zb2cr: Amazing that Alekhine overlooked this. 23. Qxd7+ wins as many have pointed out. And to <drnoo>: Check the date. War had not yet broken out in 1937. The stress you imagine either player to be under was not perhaps as great as you were thinking. |
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| Aug-01-11 | | Patriot: 23.Qxd7+ Rxd7 24.Re8+ Rd8 25.Rxd8# was easy to calculate. Or 23.Qxd7+ Kb8 24.Qxd8+ Ka7 25.Qxf6 Qxc4+ 26.Kb1. Even the best player's in the world blunder sometimes. Usually they make subtle mistakes but isn't this part of the excitement of watching human players compete? Does anyone get a thrill out of watching computers play against each other? Not me. Just wondering... |
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| Aug-01-11 | | Ferro: Calculs terrorifics for Alekhine |
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| Aug-01-11 | | Ferro: "Terrifying calculations for Alekhine" |
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| Aug-01-11 | | bvwp: Have always respected Max Euwe's response to invasion by Nazis. He went on teaching; he would not play in their chess tournaments. |
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| Aug-01-11 | | sevenseaman: <Have always respected Max Euwe's response to invasion by Nazis. He went on teaching; he would not play in their chess tournaments.> Isn't it tragic that an intellectual pursuit like chess has had to deal with the politics of its time. One could say, so have had the pure sciences like chemistry and physics; but then Chess is just a game, a matter of mere brownie points! |
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Aug-01-11
 | | LIFE Master AJ: 23.QxB/d7+! |
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| Aug-01-11 | | kevin86: The queen sac results in a quickmate. It was time for Alekhine to resign and for the bar to close. |
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