Simon Winawer vs Siegbert Tarrasch (1892)

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Simon Winawer vs Siegbert Tarrasch
7th DSB Congress, Dresden (1892), Dresden GER, rd 15, Jul-28
King's Gambit: Accepted. Bishop's Gambit (C33) · 0-1

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Given 7 times; par: 67 [what's this?]

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Sep-11-02		Honza Cervenka: Winawer sacrificed his bishop for two pawns and promising strong attack but Tarrasch defended his position excellently and won through a counter-attack.

Sep-11-02		Honza Cervenka: 39...Nf5 with next 40...Ne3 won at once.

Sep-11-02		Honza Cervenka: If 30.e5 then 30...Bg5 and 31...Nf4. After 30.d5 Tarrasch was prepared to play 30...cxd5 31.Nxd5 Rxd5 32.exd5 Nf4 33.Rg4 Qf5 with attack of black.

Apr-06-07		fred lennox: Rhis game shows Tarrasch's defensive skills. 12.h5 looks like a good move as it restricts blacks queen for some time. The advanced h pawn becomes a downfall with resourceful play.

Mar-24-14		Poulsen: This was Tarrasch last win in the tournament - he cruised into victory with 2 short draws in the last 2 rounds against players he would normally beat with relative ease. Maybe he wanted to play it safe after being put under some pressure in this game. Also the first rounds had given him a somewhat shaky start - including the 4th round loss to Albin. His performance here in Dresden was, according to Chessmetrics, not as good as his performances in Breslau 1889 and Manchester 1890, but that would change had he won the last 2 games as well. It is not unlikely, that he was in fact stronger than Lasker at this point in time - but hey, what can one do other than win tournaments?

Mar-24-14		perfidious: <Poulsen....It is not unlikely, that he was in fact stronger than Lasker at this point in time....> Entirely possible.

Jul-09-25		PaulPetrovitj: Re: perfidious - yes, Tarrasch was indeed very strong in his prime. Having studied Nimzowitsch's books, I had a rather critical view of T's chess abilities. But a comment by GM Stahlberg in an old Swedish magazine made me rethink my view, and after some study of T's games, agree. Stahlberg analysed games from earlier masters, and after showing one of T's masterpieces, he commented that against a Tarrasch of that period, Nimzowitsch would have found it hard to prove the strength of his views. Lasker was careful to postpone a WC-match against Tarrasch until the latter was past his prime.

Jul-09-25		keypusher: <Lasker was careful to postpone a WC-match against Tarrasch until the latter was past his prime.> Nonsense that needs to die. They had a match scheduled in in 1903 which Tarrasch canceled. Tarrasch certainly didn't think he was past his prime in 1908, and in fact he was the same age that Lasker was when he won St. Petersburg 1914. Lasker finished well ahead of Tarrasch in the (few) tournaments they both participated in. Huebner, who did a book on the 1894 Steinitz-Lasker match, noted that Lasker's play was on a higher level than that of either Tarrasch or Chigorin in their match the year before. Chigorin vs Tarrasch, 1893 (kibitz #11)

Jul-10-25		sudoplatov: It's amusing how many previous games Stockfish quotes in the notes. Lots of theory in this line.

Jul-12-25		PaulPetrovitj: OK, keypusher, you may well have a point there. I have the greatest respect for Lasker's strength, and in his Manual I have always found his account of positional play very illuminating.

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