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| Apr-30-05 | | Elrathia Kingi: Is there any advantage of Nd2 over Nc3 in the opening? |
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| Apr-30-05 | | Karpova: nd2 allows c3 strengthening d4 |
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| Jul-24-05 | | notyetagm: Kasparov said that 3 ♘d2 is sufficient to win but 3 ♘c3 is the best move. |
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Jul-24-05
 | | OhioChessFan: Wow, what a game. Chessbase is having an audio show about it tomorrow. |
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| Jul-25-05 | | aragorn69: <chessgames.com> Where are the other games of the Spielmann-Stoltz match (won by Speilmann +3 –2 =1), which - by the way - seems to have happened in 1930 not 1931... |
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| Jul-25-05 | | aragorn69: Ponomariov's favorite game.
Edward Winter gives some interesting contextual information and analysis in C.N. 3845 and 3848 at http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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| Sep-05-05 | | Zyqwux: This is a very interesting game.
Stoltz, one of Sweden's leading players, was brilliant but erratic. His famous game features a speculative queen sacrifice against an avid attacker. 11. Nf4
Spielmann, as usual, plunges ahead. Safer is 11. exf6 followed by g3 and Kg2, a maneuver called "castling by hand." 13. exf3
A surprising queen sacrifice.
19. Bc7
It's not clear that Black has enough compensation for the queen on 19. Bc5! Bg2 20. Bf1. 20. Be5
Also inadequate is 20. Qxf3 Nxd4 21. Qf4 Re4! 22. Qg5+ Kf7. 21. Rxe5
Black has only two minor pieces for the queen but the threat of Rae8 is deadly. If 22. a3 Re1+ wins. 23. Bf5
No better is 23. Qxb7+ Re7 24. Qxa8 Ng4! 25. Rf1 Nxf2! 26. Rxf2 Re1. Or 23. Bf1 Bxf2+! 24. Kxf2 Ne4+ is also decisive. 26. h4
Despite his extra material, there is no defense. If 26. Rf1 Bh3! 27. Qc6 Bxf2+ 28. Rxf2 Re1 mates. 28. Kg5 White Resigns. If 29. Rd1 Rd2 mate. |
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| Sep-05-05 | | Juan De Pisto: poor old Spielmann, the white king was really under bishop fire.
anyway, viva Spielmann! i bet he enjoyed this great game. |
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Oct-08-11
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <aragorn69: <chessgames.com> Where are the other games of the Spielmann-Stoltz match (won by Speilmann +3 –2 =1), which - by the way - seems to have happened in 1930 not 1931...> This Russian website also lists <1930> as the date for this Match: http://knigitut.net/17/8.htm |
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Oct-08-11
| | jessicafischerqueen: Another source listing this Match occurring in <1930>, not 1931 <Page 98 of the 5/2005 New in Chess has the following exchange with Ruslan Ponomariov: ‘What is the best chess game you ever saw?’
‘Spielmann-Stoltz, Stockholm 1930, 5th game of the match.’> Edward Winter CN 3845
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...
You'll notice that <Ponomariov> is referring to this game, so this would be <game 5> of the match. |
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Oct-08-11
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Spielmann> later wrote that he reckoned the game may have been lost at the moment he won <Stoltz's> queen: <"A game that seems like a tale from long-forgotten times, reminiscent of the immortal game Anderssen-Kieseritzky. But where did I actually made the decisive mistake? Was my game after winning the Queen already lost? These questions I still can not answer completely and we see again how unfathomably deep and mysterious chess has remained in spite of all progress. "> -Rudolf Spielmann
Deutsche Schachzeitung
December 1930
375-377 |
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Oct-08-11
| | jessicafischerqueen: “According to Stoltz this was the first time he played the French Defence in a tournament [sic] game.” -Eero Book
Schackmästaren Gösta Stoltz
(Stockholm, 1947)
CN 3848
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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Nov-28-11
| | jessicafischerqueen: <aragorn69: <chessgames.com> Where are the other games of the Spielmann-Stoltz match (won by Speilmann +3 –2 =1), which - by the way - seems to have happened in 1930 not 1931...> It is <Stoltz>, not <Spielmann> who won this match. 4524. Spielmann v Stoltz (C.N. 3845)
<We are grateful to Mr Anderberg for a correction to C.N. 3845: <<<Stoltz won the 1930 match against Spielmann,>>> with a score of +2 –1 =3. Our correspondent quotes page 358 of the December 1930 Deutsche Schachzeitung, and we add the following from page 266 of the Swedish magazine Schackvärlden, November 1930: ‘Stoltz besegrade Spielmann med 3½ p. mot 2½’. It is curious that some later secondary sources gave Spielmann as the winner, by +3 –2 =1. See, for instance, page 342 of the Dizionario enciclopedico degli scacchi by A. Chicco and G. Porreca (Milan, 1971).> http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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Nov-28-11
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Spielmann v Stoltz 1930> Round by round:
Game 1 (12 November): Spielmann v Stoltz ½-½
Game 2 (13 November): Stoltz v Spielmann 1-0
Game 3 (14 November): Spielmann v Stoltz 1-0
Game 4 (16 November): Stoltz v Spielmann ½-½
Game 5 (17 November): Spielmann v Stoltz 0-1
Game 6 (18 November): Stoltz v Spielmann ½-½. |
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| Dec-13-13 | | The17thPawn: Really impressive game and tremendously gutsy choices by Stoltz in this game. I usually saw him getting the worst of some other Super GM's brilliancy in my many chess books. Nice to see he could give as good as he got. |
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Dec-13-13
 | | Phony Benoni: <"Stoltz's startling surrender of the Queen reminds us of 'The Lady or the Tiger?". No one will ever know if Stoltz sacrificed his queen, or merely lost it!"> Reinfeld & Chernev, "Fireside Book of Chess", p.333. |
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| Dec-13-13 | | horncabbage: Gosta winned! |
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| Dec-13-13 | | paavoh: How beautiful is the Black Knight protecting d5 pawn and g8 square for possible Queen checks. Talk about economy in defence... |
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| Dec-13-13 | | morfishine: I don't know whats more notewothy: Stoltz win in this game, or Stoltz winning the match. With all due respect to Stoltz, and notwithstanding Spielmann's comments on this game, clearly White miscalculated and pretty much made a mess of things ***** |
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| Dec-13-13 | | waustad: Your pun reminded me of the tenor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B... |
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| Dec-13-13 | | fishcat: Seems pretty unlikely Black stumbled into the queen trap. 17. Qc1 or Qb3 hold more of the advantage; likewise 20. Qa4 or Qb3. They look rather computerish... Can't really say Fritzy, and Stockfishy makes them sound suspicious. 19. Bc5 was mentioned above by <Zyqwux>, quoting an article perhaps? <23. Bf1 Bxf2+! 24. Kxf2 Ne4+ is also decisive.> 23. Bf1 Bxf2+ 24. Kxf2 Ng4+ 25. Kg1 f2# is more decisive. Bf1 is better on move 22 with Stockfish reporting an evenish game -- White gives back the queen, ending up with a rook for a knight and a more connected pawn structure. |
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| Dec-13-13 | | kevin86: Black gives queen...and later rook,for a lethal attack on the king. |
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| Feb-03-16 | | jerseybob: <Phony Benoni: Reinfeld & Chernev, "Fireside Book of Chess", p.333.> That book also pinpoints 17.g3? as white's losing move- since from that point the KR never breaks free - and says 17.gf! would win. |
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Sep-17-22
 | | GrahamClayton: 10...0-0 gave Spielmann a chance to play the Greek Gift sacrifice against Dekker in 1934: Spielmann vs C Dekker, 1934 |
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Sep-15-24
 | | Honza Cervenka: <jerseybob><<Phony Benoni: Reinfeld & Chernev, "Fireside Book of Chess", p.333.> That book also pinpoints 17.g3? as white's losing move- since from that point the KR never breaks free - and says 17.gf! would win.> 17.g3 was hardly an optimal choice of white, calm and quiet 17.Qc1! would have been much better but it was not a losing move, and frankly speaking I see no big difference after 17.gxf3 Bh3+ 18.Kg1 (18.Ke2 Rhe8+ 19.Nxe8 Rxe8+ 20.Be4 axb6 is not so clear, as black gets four minor pieces against Queen and Rook, and the poisition of white King is still quite unsecure). 20.Be5 was a mistake, 20.Qb3 would have been better, and instead of 22.Qb3, which appears to be the losing move, white could still play 22.Bf1 Re1 23.Qxe1 Bxe1 24.Rxe1 Bxf1 25.Kxf1, which is hardly lost for white. |
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