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Nov-10-08 | | Marmot PFL: Wild game, but not entirely sound. |
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Nov-10-08 | | patzer2: <Every tactical sac is a sham sac or pseudo sac if you see deep enough;)> That's an amusing philosophical proposition. The only problem with this statement is that there are no computers or humans yet able to see "deep enough." For example, that's why gambits are still classified under the category of real or true sacrifices. Of course if one assumes God is omniscient and plays Chess, and that sham sacrifices are those made without any risk of loss to the player, then one could conclude that "all of God's Chess sacrifices are sham sacrifices." |
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Nov-10-08 | | Eyal: <Marmot PFL: Wild game, but not entirely sound.> This seems to be an apt description for most of 19th century chess... |
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Nov-10-08 | | Patriot: It is amazing how complicated things can get when you miss the key move Qxd7+!. I spent a little time on 19.Bxf6 and even more on 19.Nd6+ but thought 19.Bxf6 was much easier. 19...Rxf6 (19...gxf6 or 19...Qxf6 20.Qxd7#) 20.Qxd7+ Kf8 21.Qd3 stops the back rank threat. 19.Nd6+ seemed much more complex and uncertain, though I spent some time trying to work out the details and didn't like what I saw. It is definitely Monday! |
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Nov-10-08 | | SufferingBruin: <patzer2> That was a helluva post. Wait, I'd like to change my wording here... |
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Nov-10-08 | | YetAnotherAmateur: There were 3 obvious candidates (Qxd7+, Bxf6, Nd6+). 19. Nd6+ Ke7
20. Nc8+ Rfxc8 (Raxc8 21. Qxd7#, or Ke8 21. Qe5+ Kd8 22. Qe7+ and the f rook is toast)
21. Qxd7+ Kf8 ultimately goes nowhere.
Bxf6 looks promising, but Patriot's analysis is at least as good as anything I could come up with. Which leaves of course the puzzle solution. |
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Nov-10-08 | | onesax: At first I was busy looking at 19. Nd6+ Ke7 20. Qxd7+ Kxd7 (the N is pinned) 21. Ne4+, picking up a piece for your troubles ... I then thought "wow, thats a little involved for a monday", then went back and counted the material and realised that White needed the mate. After that, the solution fell into place very easily, all I had to do was reverse my move order :) |
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Nov-10-08 | | YouRang: Even though it's just a mate-in-2, it didn't come to me automatically. I wanted to play Nd6+ first, but finally convinced myself that it led nowhere. Then I looked at 19.Qxd7+, and I still had to pause to let my visualization skills (such as they are) convince me that I had all the squares covered by the knight and bishop (now that the black knight was not blocking my bishop). For some reason, I'm often slow to recognize mates that depend heavily on a knight. |
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Nov-10-08 | | kevin86: At first,I looked to an immediate 19 ♘d6+,but the king could escape to e7. Then I saw that a queen sac would open a bishop diagonal to block the king's exit-so that was the answer. |
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Nov-10-08 | | piercenator: I thought 19. Nd6+ Ke7 20. Re1#, but I entirely forgot about the queen... |
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Nov-10-08 | | gambitfan: pretty obvious !!
much more than last monday's puzzle ! |
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Nov-10-08 | | gambitfan: My first reaction was of course to try 19 ♘d6+ which is almost "perfect"... "almost" : black ♔ still has a square to escape : e7. black ♔ can escape to e7 because black ♘f6 "cuts" the action of white ♗g5... How can we get rid of this annoying black ♘f6 ?
Through a sacrifice of deviation : 19 ♕xd7! ♘x♕d7 20 ♘d6+++ mate Another rule-of-the-thumb : on Mondays just scrifice your Queen and see what happens ! ;-) |
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Nov-10-08 | | patzer2: Black gets caught in an opening trap.
The first mistake was 10...Nf2+? allowing 11. Rxf2 , since 10...cxd5 = would have held nicely. The decisive blunder was 11...Qxf2??, as 12. Bxf7+!! initiates a decisive surprise attack to overwhelm the now helplessly exposed Black King. |
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Nov-10-08 | | MaxxLange: Why on Earth did Black not play 17...0-0? Am I missing something? Both sides should have lost. |
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Nov-10-08 | | Once: Let's try a little experiment. Turn off our Monday-goggles and see if we could have spotted the combination OTB. We'll role play reality for a change. So we don't think "it's a monday, let's look for queen sacrifices". Instead, let's look for moves that we might actually consider in some draughty church hall sitting on uncomfortable plastic chairs. We have black's king in the centre, but we are a rook down. And that means we must attack. The d1 rook would love to attack via e1, but that pesky black queen is in the way. Bxf6 doesn't seem to go anywhere. Ditto queen moves (for now). And that just leaves Nd6+. Hmm - this is more interesting. The knight not only gives check, it also covers the f7 escape square. Black has only one move Ke7. Can we hit the king again? No, not really. Re1 still does not work. But wouldn't it be great if the Nf6 was off the board? Then the Bg5 would cover the black escape squares near the king. How can we get rid of the Nf6? Bxf6 doesn't work, because Rxf6 gives the king another flight square that we cannot cover. How else can we get rid of the knight? It is only then that we think about the queen sacrifice. This deflects the knight, so the Bg5 can combine with Nd6 to give mate. A quick blunder check ... can black wriggle out? Nope, both moves are forced. Done. |
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Nov-10-08 | | johnlspouge: < <YouRang> wrote: For some reason, I'm often slow to recognize mates that depend heavily on a knight.> You and me both, brother.
I found that looking specifically at the color of flight squares, finding the square(s) where a N covers them, and then calculating the (parity of the) number of moves required by a N to get to the square(s), sometimes gives useful hints for N mates. It sounds complicated, but it eventually becomes another good habit. |
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Nov-10-08 | | VooDooMoves: <MaxxLange> Black couldn't play 17. O-O because he had already moved his king, capturing the bishop that captured the f-pawn. Then moved king back to e8. |
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Nov-10-08 | | wweiss: 9...d5 was a shoddy move as it allows white to counter attack by leaving the e4 pawn undefended. It would have been better to omit this move entirely and go straight to 9...Nf2+ when black either wins the rook after 10. Rxf2 Qxf2 or mates with the smothered mate pattern after 10. Kg1 Nh3 etc. |
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Nov-10-08 | | MaxxLange: <VooDooMoves> That would explain that! Thanks, I somehow forgot about that |
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Nov-10-08 | | Eyal: <9...d5 was a shoddy move as it allows white to counter attack by leaving the e4 pawn undefended. It would have been better to omit this move entirely and go straight to 9...Nf2+ when black either wins the rook after 10. Rxf2 Qxf2 or mates with the smothered mate pattern after 10. Kg1 Nh3 etc.> White has a big advantage after 9...Nf2+ 10.Rxf2 Qxf2 11.Qxd6 Nd7 12.b4! (preventing Qc5); the best for Black on the 9th move was probably simply to castle. Btw, there's no smothered mate after 9...Nf2+ 10.Kg1 because g1 is protected by both rook and knight, but of course 10...Nxd1+ would be good enough... |
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Nov-10-08 | | dzechiel: <Once: Let's try a little experiment. Turn off our Monday-goggles...> I think it was Averbakh who wrote that when he looked at each position in his games, he first looked for a way to sacrifice his queen. I don't know if that is typical of your average grandmaster, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was. That may be one of the traits that separates the elite from the mediocre. |
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Nov-10-08 | | SufferingBruin: <Once> that was nicely done. Thanks. |
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Nov-10-08 | | benjinathan: <Let's try a little experiment. Turn off our Monday-goggles and see if we could have spotted the combination OTB. We'll role play reality for a change.> My reality: Look at board. See Qxb7... take!
Surely he jests you say: ah, alas no. yesterday I played four games; lost them all. In two I just lost pieces through one ply oversight; in one I played a suboptimal move (after 20 seconds of thought in a critical position) which (in gong over the game after) was a sure winning position (absent another one ply oversight) and in the fourth I actually told my opponenet my winning move,when I thought it was no longer available, except that it was still avalable and he defended. I will try <once>'s method for a change. |
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Nov-10-08 | | Zenchess: <wweiss> 9...d5 was not bad; it was 10...Nf2?? that was the losing move. Black could have recaptured the Bishop on move 10, and I don't see how White can both guard the f2 square and work up an attack against the King. He's down a piece. |
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Nov-10-08
 | | Phony Benoni: I also saw this game first in Chernev's <1000 Best Short Games of Chess>. He pointed out the oddity that, starting with 14.Bg5, White threatens mate-in-one five moves in row without delivering a check. Finally, on 19.Qxd7+, Chernev wrote "Enough of this cat-and-mosue stuff!" It reminds me of the old Goodrich Blimp advertsing campaign, if anyone else remembers that. |
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