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| Aug-06-12 | | chui28: ha black is 1 move from mate XD |
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| May-17-17 | | Ian McGarrett: If instead of 18... Kg6, Black plays Kh5 then 19.Rf5+ Bxf5, (the capture is forced since 19... Kg6 transposes to the game and 19... Kh4 is met with 20. Bg5+ Kh5, 21. Nf4++) 20.Ng3+ Kh4, 21.Bg5+ Kg4, 22.Be2+ followed by mate. |
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| Sep-02-17 | | ChessHigherCat: That was a million times easier than yesterday's! It literally took me 5 minutes because the first move is pretty obvious and almost all the rest are forced: Kxg7 15. Qxh6+ Kxh6 16. Ne6+ Kg6 17. Rf6+ Kh5 18. Ndf4+ Kh4 19. g3# |
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| Sep-02-17 | | ChessHigherCat: Having looked at the game, I noticed that if Siegbert hadn't played ta'rashly he would have probably found my quicker variant.
Oh well, I bet the Sunday puzzle will be a ego-deflator! |
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| Sep-02-17 | | Arconax: Then it should have taken you only a minute := |
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| Sep-02-17 | | ChessHigherCat: <Arconax: Then it should have taken you only a minute :=> That's amazing, how did you know it would have taken me precisely one million minutes to solve yesterday's puzzle? But seriously, hardly any of the strong players got yesterday's puzzle and hardly any of them will miss this one. |
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| Sep-02-17 | | nalinw: <ChessHigherCat> Kxg7 15. Qxh6+ Kxh6 16. Ne6+ Kg6 17. Rf6+ Kh5 18. Ndf4+ Kh4 19. g3# Isn't 18. Rh6 mating directly?
If Black plays 16. ... Kh5 - like in the game - White has to work harder - and the problem is not so easy after all :-) |
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| Sep-02-17 | | Arconax: <ChessHigherCat> Where can I find yesterday's puzzle? I'm not a very strong player so I probably won't stand a chance, but you got me curious. At least I want to give it a try. But yes, this one wasn't too difficult. |
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| Sep-02-17 | | ChessHigherCat: <Nalinw: If Black plays 16. ... Kh5 - like in the game - White has to work harder - and the problem is not so easy after all :-)> That variant took me all of a minute:
16...Kh5 17. Nf6+ Kh4 18. g3+ Kh3 19. Nf4#
You have to admit it's a hell of a lot easier than yesterday's, don't you? |
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| Sep-02-17 | | ChessHigherCat: Arconax: A Blees vs F Vallejo Pons, 1997 22... black to move and good luck! |
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| Sep-02-17 | | Arconax: <ChessH.Cat> Thx, I'll have a look! |
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| Sep-02-17 | | Whitehat1963: Yeah, no. Didn't come close to finding my way through that rat's nest! |
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| Sep-02-17 | | NBZ: <ChessHigherCat> 16. ... Kh5 17. Nf6+ Kg6! (not Kh4) and I don't see an easy way for White to win. I puzzled over 16. ... Kh5 for a long time - the game continuation is quite genius and I didn't see it at all. In the end I ended up with 17. Rf6, threatening Rh6#, and now: A] 17. ... Bxe6 18. Rh6+ Kg4 19. Nf6#
B] 17. ... Ng6 18. Ng7+ Kh4 19. g3+ Kh3 20. Nf4# Sadly I just saw a third option for Black: C] 17. ... Qxe6! |
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| Sep-02-17 | | diagonalley: didn't even notice that tarrasch was giving rook odds!! |
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| Sep-02-17 | | Altairvega: 15. Qh6+ Kh6 gives the possibility of a venomous discovered check 16. Ne6+ Kg6 or rather better for Black Kh5 17. Rf6 and 18. Rh6+ |
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| Sep-02-17 | | ChessHigherCat: <NBZ> Qxe6 is a bit of wet blanket! I think I've finally nailed it:
14...Kxg7 15. Qxh6+ Kxh6 16. Nxf7+ Kg7 17. Bh6+ Kg6 ( Kg8 18. Nf6#) 18. Rf6+ Kh5 19. Nf4+ Kh4 20. g3# |
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| Sep-02-17 | | Altairvega: I followed Yarrash to the move 16. I overlooked that Rf6 Rh6 nay hindered by Blacks 17..Ng6. Then 18 Nef4+ NxN 19 NxN+ and white wins also in this line |
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| Sep-02-17 | | ChessHigherCat: Just to cover Kh5, too: Kxh6 16. Nxf7+ Kh5 17. Nf4+ Kh4 18. g3# Well, thanks to the prodding of <NBZ> and <nalinw> I realized it's not as simple as it looks and maybe Tarrasch's solution looks a little cuter but I'll make do with my home-grown. |
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| Sep-02-17 | | AlicesKnight: I saw 15.Qh6+ Kxh6; 16.Ne6+ as the break, and then went wrong in the chase. The final position, with the minor pieces working in concert, is attractive. |
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| Sep-02-17 | | morfishine: I saw this somewhere: <15.Qxh6+> and one can almost hear the hunting dogs baying in the distance... Gotta love the multi-faceted <19.Rf6+> which besides checking the Black King, (1) fixes Black's f-pawn in place & (2) forces the Black King to <f6> where White's minors finish him off Lovely
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| Sep-02-17 | | gofer: What a treat! A queen sac on a <Saturday>... <15 Qxh6+ Kxh6 > (Kg8/Kh8 16 Qxh7#) <16 Ne6+ Kh5> (Kg6 17 Rf6+ Kh5 18 Rh6#) <17 Ndf4+ Kg5/Kh6> (Kh4 18 g3#!) <18 Ne2+!!! ...> White lines up a beautiful mate with 2N+B, but black doesn't have to walk into it, but there are other mates in the offing in black refuses to play ball. 18 ... Kg6
19 Rf6+!!!! Kxf6
20 Bg5+ Kg6
21 N2f4#
click for larger viewCombinations like this don't come along very often. Truly Beautiful. <18 ... Kh5>
<19 Rf6! ...>
The mating net is complete and there are so many mates on offer that black looks to be doomed (i.e. Moving Ra8, Rf8, Pa7, Pb7, Pc7, Ph7, Bc5 anywhere allows 20 Rh6#/Rxh6#). So that just leaves the defences up to poor old Ne5 and Bg4, because the alternative of returning the queen sac with another queen sac would be a bitter pill to swallow; Qxe6?! 19 ... Bxe6/Bf3/Bf3
20 Rh6+ Kg4
21 h3#
19 ... Bxe2/Bh3
20 Rh6+ Kg4
21 Bxe2+/Be2+ Nf3
22 Bxf3#
If the bishop stays where it is the Ne4 has no option, but to block Rh6# 19 ... Ng6
20 Ng7+ Kh4
21 g3+ Kh3
22 Ng1+ Bxg1
23 Bf1#
So, black has no choice but to give up its queen after all! <19 ... Qxe6>
<20 Bxe6 ...>
click for larger viewAt this point Romberg must have had a sense of <Deja Vu> all the same
problems exist (Rh6# and Ng3#), but his queen is no longer on the board!!!
Worse than that is it is even clearer now that all bishop moves lose
very quickly and only Nd5 has any chance to save the day. 20 ... Bxe2 21 Rh6#
20 ... Any other bishop move 21 Rh6+ Kg4 22 h3#
<20 ... Ng6 >
<21 Bxg4+ Kxg4> <22 h3+ Kh4>
<23 Kh2! ...>
click for larger viewOkay, still lots of options for black, but all of them seem to be losing... ~~~
What a pleasure that was, even if Romberg didn't play the best defence !!!! |
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| Sep-02-17 | | newzild: Saw the first few moves - but not as far as the stunning finish. |
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| Sep-02-17 | | clement41: Gosh I even set up the position on my board except with the black queen on d8, mistakenly, and thus could not force any win^^ |
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| Sep-02-17 | | ChessHigherCat: And just to cover Kg6 in the 16. Nxf7+ variant (which is much more complex, granted): Kxg7 15. Qxh6+ Kxh6 16. Nxf7+ Kg6 17. Rf6+ Kg7 18. Bh6+ Kg8 19. Nxe5 Rxf6 20. Nxf6+ Kh8 21. Nxe8 Rxe8 (dxe5?? Bg7#) 22. Nf7+ Kg8 23. Rf1 Bd1 24. Nxd6+ Kh8 25. Nxe8 Bd4 26. Rf8# |
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| Sep-02-17 | | skemup: 15. Qxh6 Kxh6 16.Nxf7++ Kg6 (the longest variation) 17.Rf6+ Kg7 18.Bh6+ Kg8 19.Rg6+ Kxf7 20.Rg7+ Ke6 21.Bg5 with Nf4++ to follow.Does it work? |
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