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Jan-27-06 | | EricCartman: <Boomie> Black will win the game after 25... ♗f3 against a normal player, but since Capablanca is so superior in these kind of positions, he'd have been able to hold a draw against Yates |
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Jan-27-06 | | Boomie: <Eric> I think the position is equal after 25...Bxf3 as indicated by the "=" after the line. |
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Jul-11-06 | | ChessDude33: <Ziggurat> In "Capablanca's Best Chess Endings" Chernev says 25...Bxf3 leads to an easy draw by 25...Bxf3 26. gxf3 Rc8 27. Rd6 Kf8. Maybe Yates was playing for the win at the time. |
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Jun-02-07 | | CapablancaFan: Allowing Capa even 1 pawn ahead in the endgame is almost enough to resign immediately. |
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Jun-02-07 | | paladin at large: <EricCartman> I believe <euripides> is correct. You will find many Capablanca games that he won where he placed greater emphasis on activity for his pieces over the strength of his pawn structure. Chernev noted that for Capablanca the most important thing about his pawns was the force that they exerted (or had the potential to exert) on the enemy position. It is true that Capa also liked positions where he had fewer pawn islands than his opponent, but such a consideration was usually subordinate to finding strong play for his pieces. |
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Jun-04-07 | | micartouse: <Allowing Capa even 1 pawn ahead in the endgame is almost enough to resign immediately.> Yes, back in the day it was like that! :) But thanks to wins against Duras and Yates, the R+4P v. R+3P on one side is a well analyzed draw. Most modern GMs will almost certainly draw these positions even if they were playing Capa with Rybka's assistance. |
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Jul-24-08 | | randzo: after 35.moves it is clear draw |
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Sep-27-08 | | whiteshark: "He [Capablanca] always had the attitude of a man who considers himself above the affairs of ordinary mortals... He once appeared for a resumption after adjournment against Yates dressed in tennis flannels but to his great annoyance was kept playing until long after dark." --Max Euwe
Was it this game? |
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Sep-28-08 | | Calli: I don't know. Game played 30 Dec 1930. Can you play tennis in December in Hastings? |
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Sep-30-08 | | whiteshark: <Calli> Other candidates are: Capablanca vs Yates, 1924
Capablanca vs Yates, 1922
Capablanca vs Yates, 1919 (Hastings = unlikely) |
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Sep-30-08 | | sneaky pete: The first Christmas tournament was 1921/22. The 1919 Victory Congress was held in August. In round 1, August 11, JRC adjourned his game against Yates in a favourable position. During the next 5 rounds (and days) he won his games in one session. It's likely that on the scheduled free day, August 17, an excellent day for tennis I've been told, the adjourned game against Yates was resumed. |
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Sep-30-08 | | whiteshark: Thanks, <sneaky pete>! That suits. |
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Sep-30-08 | | Calli: I would eliminate the NY 1924 game because Euwe was not there. He played at London 1922, of course. Young Euwe also played in the "C" section at Hastings 1919, finishing 4-5th behind the forgotten W H Kirk . |
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Jun-28-09 | | esticles: The last part of this endgame is analyzed at http://wtharvey.com/endg.html |
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Jun-29-11 | | lost in space: Black missed to get a clear draw position between move 36 and 39; he just needs to play h7-h5 and there is no way to win this for white.. Never the less...nice win by Capa. |
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Aug-24-11 | | joelsontang: Yates has done so well to reduce the endgame to a Rook and 4 pawns vs Rook and 3 pawns with no pawn structure weaknesses for black. What a waste, I could have drawn the endgame myself. As a rule of thumb, from my experience, do the following: 1) push the h-pawn to h5 to be able to swap pawns if white pushes his own (trade pawns when behind in material, not pieces) - and the h5 pawn would not create weaknesses unlike pushing the f-pawn. 2) Keep out the enemy king from crossing its 3rd rank, if not 4th rank by marking the rank with the Rook. When the enemy pawns have been pushed to about 4th or fifth rank, then bring the Rook to the enemy's 1st rank and harrass the enemy's king with checks. I have never lost such an ending in my games. |
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Feb-11-18 | | Grandma Sturleigh: <<joelsontang> I have never lost such an ending in my games.> Euwe Gligoric vs Euwe, 1953 and Kasparov Piket vs Kasparov, 2000 didn't find this endgame quite so easy. |
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Apr-27-22
 | | Ziryab: Dvoretsky mentions analysis by Kopaev. Where can I find this analysis? |
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Apr-19-24 | | Mathematicar: 28.g3 is principled; the fastest way for the king to any square is from one of the main diagonals. |
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Apr-20-24
 | | perfidious: <lost in space: Black missed to get a clear draw position between move 36 and 39; he just needs to play h7-h5 and there is no way to win this for white.....> In Duras vs Capablanca, 1913, the great man got the pawn to h4 and the ending remained drawn, though it is tougher going for the defence. I had this ending twice in my career and knew what my opponent should play for; the first time he was unsuccessful and lost, but the second go round, the player knew what he was about and held. |
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Aug-02-24
 | | Sally Simpson: The tale about Capablanca turning up with his tennis racket intending to polish off Yates and then hit the courts is mentioned by Euwe (see Capablanca vs Yates, 1930 (kibitz #21)) Koltanowski also mentions it his section on 'Memories of Hastings' in his book 'En Passant.' Reading between the lines it does appear Yates hung on grimly out of spite ro gamesmanship, the game lasted well into the evening. It took a total of seven hours according to the Britbase report. This is the only time I can place Euwe, Koltanowski and a Capablanca v Yates adjourned game together. Koltanowski played in the 'Hastings Premier Reserves' https://www.saund.co.uk/britbase/pg... The doubt is, as mentioned, tennis in the UK in winter? However the 'Hastings and St Leonards Observer' Saturday 21 October 1933 carries an ad: "INDOOR TENNIS AND DANCING. Indoor tennis and dancing are the attractions at the Palace Pier. " So this game is now a good candidate. Indoor Tennis and Dancing! The tale could have been embellished with Capablanca turning up with his tap shoes on. |
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Aug-20-24
 | | kingscrusher: Amazing if this indeed the tennis referenced game - does seem like an unexpectedly long grind. |
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Aug-20-24
 | | kingscrusher: See "Dressed for tennis" section in particular: https://en.chessbase.com/post/edwar... "What is the earliest known sighting of the well-known story about Capablanca turning up in his tennis gear to resume a game of chess against Yates at Hastings?" |
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Feb-04-25 | | andrea volponi: 61 Rb6?! ( 61 Rd6!+- )...Ra2!+ -Kf3 Ra3+ - Ke4 R a4+ - Kf5 Rc4! (=) -Rb7 Kg8 - Rb3 Kg7 = |
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Feb-04-25 | | andrea volponi:  click for larger view |
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