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F G Rowe vs William George Ward
"Damage of F G Rowe" (game of the day Dec-20-2021)
Casual game (1876), Unknown
Italian Game: Bird's Attack (C53)  ·  0-1

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Jun-24-15  EddieB: The game was published in The Chess Player's Chronicle, 5th April 1882, without indication of date and place. It was later reproduced in Ellis, Chess Sparks, 1895, p. 74 , game #207, adding "Played in 1876". A further game of Ward's (against H. Browne) appears in the same page (#208), indicating "Played at Nottingham in 1876".

Black was indeed William George Ward (b. 1825; d. 14th June 1878). He was Mayor of Nottingham 1871-1872 and 1877-1878.

Dec-20-21  YoungEd: Very pretty mate!
Dec-20-21  Brenin: Nice finish! White is doomed after 16 Ke1: he must give up his Q with 16 Qxd4 Qxd4 to avoid mate.

I don't understand the pun.

Dec-20-21
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  OhioChessFan: Fun 19th century game. I assume the pun references Fate Grand Order, which I'd never heard of before.
Dec-20-21
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  MissScarlett: You'll have to work a little harder on this one. Must admit, when I looked at it again recently, I couldn't remember what it meant but then it came back to me today. There's a musical connection.
Dec-20-21  Brenin: Mozart?
Dec-20-21
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  scutigera: "Burnin' F.G." might be more comprehensible, as I've heard the expression 'burn in effigy' several times, but never have heard of Fate Grand Order.
Dec-20-21  ndg2: "Figaro" as in "Le Nozze di Figaro"?
Dec-20-21
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  MissScarlett: Spot on.
Dec-20-21  Brenin: "Marriage" equals "Damage"? That's a dreadful pun and a dismal view of life.
Dec-20-21
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  perfidious: <Brenin: "Marriage" equals "Damage"? That's a dreadful pun and a dismal view of life.>

I have known one or two people who viewed marriage thus, but agree with your opinions of the pun and outlook on life.

Dec-20-21
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: A game so astonishing, can't help but wonder if F. G. Rowe in fact existed, or if this constitutes a composed effort.
Dec-20-21  Cheapo by the Dozen: Another pun option would have been to go Rossini, and base it on

Figaro qua, Figaro la, Figaro qua, Figaro la,
Figaro su, Figaro giu, Figaro su, Figaro giu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ip...

Dec-20-21
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  Teyss: <MissScarlett: Must admit, when I looked at it again recently, I couldn't remember what it meant> That's a good one! Oh, you weren't joking.

<Brenin> <Perfidious> Bashing marriage, children and mothers-in-law are probably the most common jokes worldwide, but then we keep on having them. Mothers-in-law notwithstanding since unfortunately we cannot choose them. (Thank God this site is anonymous.)

Dec-20-21  Messiah: Terrible pun.
Dec-20-21  Brenin: William George Ward was not only a useful chess player, but also a successful businessman and a highly effective mayor of Nottingham. He died just a few weeks before his greatest triumph, the opening of the first musuem and art gallery in Nottingham. See http://www.nottshistory.org.uk/mono.... He should not be confused with the controversial theologian William George Ward (1812-1882), see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willi....
Dec-20-21
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  MissScarlett: <"Marriage" equals "Damage"?>

In which case, I would have gone with <The Damage>. <Damage> = <The Marriage.>

<A game so astonishing, can't help but wonder if F. G. Rowe in fact existed, or if this constitutes a composed effort.>

He existed alright. Here's another game I found looking for this one:

W G Ward vs F G Rowe, 1875

Dec-20-21
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  MissScarlett: When it's finally admitted that this is a pun far above the madding crowd, some twit will demand what relevance a comic opera has to the game.
Dec-20-21
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  Teyss: <MissScarlett> Rowe existed indeed, the following conversation was reproduced by the local chess magazine.
Ward - Hey Figaro, do you want to play chess with me again?
Rowe - No, you crushed me last year, with a Knight's odds on top of that, it was humiliating.
Ward - Aw c'mon, no odds this time and I promise to be nice.
Rowe - Alright then, but if I lose I quit playing this game.
F G Rowe
Dec-20-21
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  Teyss: <ndg2: "Figaro" as in "Le Nozze di Figaro"?>
<MissScarlett: Spot on.>
<MissScarlett: (...) some twit will demand what relevance a comic opera has to the game.>
I'll volunteer to be the twit.
NB: Le nozze di Figaro is not a comic opera, The Barber of Seville partly is.
Dec-20-21
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  MissScarlett: Teyss is evidently not married.
Dec-20-21  GlennOliver: F Rowe - Ward, Back Ward
Dec-20-21  nevetsjy: Atrocious pun. You have to work too hard for it.
Oct-11-22
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  MissScarlett: The game is in the <Westminster Papers> of December 1st 1876, p.146, with Zukertort hailing a <masterly finish.>

No location, but the date appears as <Played Friday 11, 1876.> Guess the month! In 1876, Friday the 11th occurred in February and August, so take your pick.

Oct-11-22  stone free or die: No way for you to drop the source tag along with your post?

FWIW - you weren't the first to trace this game back:

https://books.google.com/books?id=l...

Mr. Rouse also noting the ambiguity in month.

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