Geoff Chandler vs E Gilliand (1981)

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Geoff Chandler vs E Gilliand
Edinburgh (1981), Edinburgh SCO
Three Knights Opening: General (C46) · 1-0

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Jun-27-17		morfishine: Of course <11.Qxf6> is the move, but Black spoils the fun with <11...Nxd5> White still wins though *****

Jun-27-17		Iwer Sonsch: 11.Bxf6 gxf6 12.Nxf6+ looks interesting, but doesn't seem to yield a continuation. Instead, 11.Qxf6! gxf6 12.Nxf6+ Kf8 13.Bh6# is mate.

Jun-27-17		gofer: <Cybe> is right, without playing the disasterous <10 ... Ne7> black has gained a bishop for only the loss of a pawn and an ugly position.

Jun-27-17		malt: 11.Q:f6! Rg8 (11...gf6? 12.N:f6+ Kf8 13.Bh6# )12.Q:e7+ Q:e7 13.N:e7 Rf8

Jun-27-17		saturn2: I did not find 11 QxN ot once but looked first at 11 BxN gxB 12 Nxf6+ Now black can only play 12...Kf8 How nice would it be nice if the queen could ceck 13 Qh6++! But the queen can only come in two steps there. The bishop however in one. And so I found the solution.

Jun-27-17		patzer2: <gofer: <Cybe> is right, without playing the disasterous <10 ... Ne7> black has gained a bishop for only the loss of a pawn and an ugly position.> I thought so too at first. However, Stockfish 8 finds Black has a fine position, after the forcing <9...axb5 10. c3> by foregoing castling and quickly giving some material back for development with 10...Rg8! (diagram below) click for larger view Here (diagram above) an attempt by White to immediately win back the sacrificed material with 11. Bxf6 gxf6 12. Nxf6+ Ke7 13. Nxg8 Qxg8 (diagram below) click for larger view favors Black, despite the resulting even material count (i.e. Rook and a Pawn for Bishop and Knight.) Because of Black's superior development, active pieces and attacking chances against the exposed King, Stockfish 8 @ 33 depth correctly assesses the position above (after 13...Qxg8) as strongly in Black's favor: [Stockfish 8 64] 33:-1.34 13...Qxg8 14.Kh1 b4 15.Qe2 bxc3 16.bxc3 Ra3 17.Qb2 Kd7 18.f4 Kc8 19.fxe5 dxe5 20.Rab1 b6 21.Rf6 Nd8 22.Rf5 Qe8 23.Ra1 Bd6 24.Qd2 Qe6 25.Rh5 Qg6 26.Rh6 Qg7 27.Rf1 Bc5 28.Rf5 Rxa2 29.Qxa2 Qxh6 30.Rf1 Qc6 31.Qa1 f6 32.d4 Bd6 33.Qa6+ Kb8 34.dxe5 fxe5 35.Qd3 ) [Stockfish 8 64] 33:-1.34 13...Qxg8 14.Qe2 b4 15.Kh1 bxc3 16.bxc3 Ra3 17.Qb2 Kd7 18.f4 Kc8 19.Rf3 f6 20.fxe5 fxe5 21.Rg3 Qe6 22.Rg7 b6 23.Rxh7 d5 24.Qd2 Kb7 25.exd5 Qxd5 26.Rh3 e4 27.Qe2 exd3 28.Rxd3 Qc4 29.Re3 Rxc3 30.Qxc4 Rxc4 31.Re8 Rd4 32.Rb1 Rd2 )

Jun-27-17		Agferna: Dear Chessgames.com: I am IM Antonio Fernandez and this is not my game. I have never been to Edinburgh in my life, never played Chandler and I am a Sicilian defense guy - LOL. "Fernandez" is a common surname in Spain and Latin America and there are even "Fernandes" varieties from Portuguese speaking countries. Please correct and not tag this game to me. Thanks and Cheers All.

Jun-27-17		patzer2: <gofer> I don't know about ugly, but the position does get extremely complicated after 10...Rg8 11. Qg3 Kf8 when Stockfish 8 indicates strong play might go 10...Rg8 11.Qg3 Kf8 12.Qh4 Nb8 13.d4 exd4 14.Rfd1 c6 15.Bxf6 gxf6 16.Qh6+ Rg7 17.Rd3 cxd5 18.Rg3 Ke7 19.Rxg7 Nc6 20.exd5 Ne5 21.Re1 d3 22.Qxh7 Qe8 23.a3 Kd7 (-1.37 @ 33 depth, Stockfish 8)

Jun-27-17		patzer2: <Agferna> Thanks for the post IM Fernandez. Good to know this is not your game. I too have a common hispanic surname and can relate. I've heard of the "Tomb of the Unknown Soldier." Now perhaps chessgames.com can bury this as the "game of the unknown loser."

Jun-27-17		timmanfan: At first I thought 9. Nd5 was a strong move. A closer look tells me that after 9...axb5 10 c3 Qc8!! and black is much better

Jun-27-17		Carlos0012358: 11....gxf6 is a poor move that leads to a quick mate. 11....O-O is the right continuation.

Jun-27-17		Carlos0012358: As others have pointed out, black's 10....Ne7 was a disastrous move which turned black's advantage into a loss. Then, 11....gxf6 put the nail in balck's coffin.

Jun-27-17		keypusher: < Carlos0012358: 11....gxf6 is a poor move that leads to a quick mate. 11....O-O is the right continuation.> No argument about 11....gxf6! Black is lost no matter what, but I doubt 11....0-0 is his best alternative. 12.Nxe7+ Kh8 and then White can play something like 13.d4 (since Black still can't take the queen) followed by Rd1-d3-h3.

Jun-27-17		lost in space: <<diagonally><lost in space> ... i reckon you are lost in time too!> Yes, lost in timespace

Jun-27-17		kevin86: easy: the queen sacrifice allows for a mate in two by bishop and knight.

Jun-27-17		beenthere240: This game looks phony to me.

Jun-27-17		Phony Benoni: It's not that the game is phony; we just know that Black wasn't Antonio Fernandez. And, for that matter, how likely is it that White was Murray Chandler? I don't see him playing a lot in Edinburgh. I wonder if White was actually Scottish player Geoff Chandler, and if User: Sally Simpson might be able to shed a little light on the game.

Jun-27-17		Agferna: Thanks Patzer2. New experience for me in my life to wake up one morning and find out I am tagged with the embarrassing side of a horrific nightmare of a mate - LOL. Even though an IM, I never really pursued chess professionally, so my published games are generally losses. Ummm, maybe I should unbox and undust some of my old score sheets and dish out a few little morning surprises around the world - LOL. Cheers

Jun-27-17		ChessHigherCat: I saw in about a minute that 11. Qxf6 gxf6 12. Nxf6 Kf8 13. Bh6#, but black isn't forced to take the Q. I don't see any mate after 11. Nxd5 and <Once> points out that Fritz sees 4 other playable moves so the real puzzle is: What kind of puzzle is this?

Jun-27-17		whiteshark: It is repeatedely excellent to see a ♘+♗ #

Jun-27-17		Sally Simpson: Hi Antonio, No idea how this happened but I'll get it corrected. It is one of my games and is in fact G. Chandler v E.Gillain (I think the initial E. is correct) Edinburgh Chess Club 1981. I used this game giving the Black player's name in 'Mastering Chess' by Danny Kopec, G. Chandler, C. Morrison, N. Davies, and I. D. Mullen, We all covered a different aspect of the game. I did Tactics and Combinations.....what did you expect from me....Endings? (yuk) (The book ran to 21 editions, it was translated into Spanish maybe the mistake happened there, in the translation. ) My lesson here was playing against a so called weaker opponent, listening to the warning signs and recalling mating patterns. I started by giving 4 short games from different openings all showing the same mating pattern that appeared in this game. Here: click for larger view I intended 10.Nxf6+ gxf6 11.Bxf6 picking up the h8 Rook. Alarm bells rang, the watch dogs barked and the inner eye was blinking like a beacon. (Never ignore that feeling 'this is wrong'.) 11.Bxf6 Nd4! I added a note saying weaker players do miss out of the blue tactical shot but when their back is against the wall they look for and often find the desperate defence. Adding something along the lines knowing how your opponent thinks at this level will help you, Don't drop them into a position where they start frantically searching. Give them some room to blunder. (The book was written for the average club player.) I was positive my opponent would find 10...Nd4. I had blundered with my piece sac. I played 10. c3 to stop Nd4 and waited to see what they would do. My opponent played 10....Ne7. click for larger view Then...and only then did I see the Queen sac. I've played 1,000's of combinations and none have been original. Somewhere in my murky past I saw this idea in another game or games. The pattern stuck. Proof to the value of studying and playing over games. (Then of course it was the tried and trusted 3 B's method. Book, Board and Bedroom.) Correction slip sent.

Jun-27-17		ChessHigherCat: <Sally Simpson: Somewhere in my murky past I saw this idea in another game or games. The pattern stuck.> Maybe the Spanish translator was trying to spell Murky Chandler? Interesting story anyway, you were expecting a refutation and your opponent walked into a mate instead!

Jun-27-17		Phony Benoni: <Sally Simpson> Thanks for clearing that up.

Jun-29-17		gawain: Lovely finish--even though it's true that Black could have survived longer by not taking the proffered queen.

Aug-24-17		Agferna: Sally: Massive thanks for correcting the name. Cheers, Antonio

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