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Dec-09-23
 | | Check It Out: A well fought and exciting game.
Yet another strained pun: Hans Off Mateusz Knights |
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Dec-09-23
 | | Sally Simpson: That 14. Bxf7 is a pawn I'd have offered as Black but never taken as White. Black has all the fun and can relax, he has a rigid plan, attack the King. Don't hold back. But if you are proclaiming to be the new Fischer then I suppose you must take it. (a positional poisoned pawn?) As Perfidious hints, the axe must surely fall on the White King. Defending these positions you see all kinds of tricks and threats that are not there....but you think might be there....this is you in blunderland and it is only a question of time before you crack. Mateusz kept stoking the fire and it finally got too hot for Hans to handle. After defending for so long Hans tripped up. It is hard to believe there are no forced wins for Black. At first glance some of the positions smell ripe for a sac-sac mate. But no. There were a few sacs and pieces left hanging including a pseudo Queen sac but no sockdolager Mateusz is on a death or glory run. SO far it is 4 wins, 3 losses and no draws. We appear to have just witnessed the new (not quite yet) Bobby Fischer v the new (on the right road) Bent Larsen. What is a 'sockdolager?' see C.N. 7360 |
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| Dec-09-23 | | Saniyat24: agadmator's video on this game- https://youtu.be/D_NZCmRe4lk?si=y9q... |
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Dec-09-23
 | | fredthebear: Hans missed his shot as BxChess points out: <Dec-08-23 BxChess: 44. Qxc2 was losing. 44. Qh6+ Kg8 e7 was winning.> Bizarre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT8... |
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| Dec-09-23 | | jerseybob: <Sally Simpson:...What is a 'sockdolager?' see C.N. 7360> Sockdolager, in a chess context, is a killing move. Al Horowitz often used that word in his 1960s N.Y. Times column, which introduced me to chess. (A player at the Marshall told me years ago that some of those columns were ghost-written, but Al's no longer around to defend himself. He reportedly had a flamboyant personality, and I can picture him using that word.) |
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Dec-09-23
 | | perfidious: That bit of phraseology died with Horowitz, though one can read through back numbers of <Chess Review> from the 1940s and see books being shilled using the term. |
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Dec-09-23
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Jersey Bob.
I was anticipating others not knowing what I meant so I gave the Edward Winter link. It's a term I've used on here before, it should be used more often in the chess lexicon, it's great word. Yes, Al Horowitz and Chernev were fond of using it. I think I first met in a Chernev book on opening traps. I used it many years ago when noting up one of the games of that great player Gyula Sax 'cept I called a Saxdolager. |
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| Dec-09-23 | | stone free or die: I agree with <perf> - I never heard it before. But Merriam-Webster has it:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dic... Wondering where it ever came from, I went to my favorite etymology site: <1830, with many spelling variants, "a decisive blow" (also, figuratively "a conclusive argument"), American English, a fanciful formation from sock (v.1) "hit hard," perhaps via a comical mangling of doxology, on a notion of "finality." The meaning "something exceptional" is attested from 1838.> https://www.etymonline.com/word/soc... |
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Dec-09-23
| | perfidious: To see that expression going back to the mid nineteenth century is more than slightly surprising; the only place I have ever seen 'sockdolager' is from Horowitz. |
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| Dec-09-23 | | 1300patzer: Nakamura analyzes this on his yt channel. As he often does, he compares thinking between the human lines and ongoing chess analysis. |
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| Dec-10-23 | | Granny O Doul: "You sockdologizing old mantrap!" is the surefire laugh line at the end of the third act of "Our American Cousin". John Wilkes Booth counted on it to create a bit of distraction and make entering Lincoln's box to shoot him a bit easier. |
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| Dec-10-23 | | Gaito: 
click for larger viewWHITE TO MOVE
This was a crazy position of an otherwise crazy game.
Everyone is saying that White had an easy win, but it is one thing to be sitting comfortably at home with a powerful chess engine at hand, and quite another to have this position over the board after a very hard struggle of many hours and with the pressure of the clock ticking. The engine (Komodo 13) gives an evaluation of +11.11, i.e., an overwhelming advantage in White's favor. There are two winning moves for White according to the engine, namely A) 44.Qh6+, and B) 44.e7. A brief analysis by Komodo 13 of 44.Qh6+ follows: 44.Qh6+ Kg8 45.e7 Rgd2+ 46.Qxd2 Rxd2+ 47.Kc1, and Black is helpless against the threat 48 e8=Q, forcing immediate resignation.(Diagram)
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Any attempt by Black to draw by perpetual check falis, e.g. 47...Rd1+ 48.Kxd1 Ne3+ 49.Kd2 (not 49.Rxe3?? Qxe3 and Black draws) 49...Qf2+ 50.Kc3 (50.Kd3 also wins) Nd5+ 51.Kc4 Ne3+ 52.Kb3 Qf7+ 53.Ka3, and the checks are over. (Diagram)
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Dec-10-23
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Bartel evidently wanted to play Tal-style sacrifices all game long--no, probably not sound, but people not named Korchnoi rarely proved that over the board. |
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Dec-10-23
 | | offramp: This game was brilliant, Bartel found a dozen superb moves. I was given a pig's ear to remedy my deafness. Trouble is, some crackling. I went to the zoo, they only had one dog. It was a shih tzu. |
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| Dec-10-23 | | Cecco: <Gaito>, you're right, there is no perpetual. It also seemed impossible to me, in the position after 44. Qh6+ Kg8 45. e7, that black manages to somehow eliminate the pawn on e7, despite remaining at a clear disadvantage. White had made many difficult decisions correctly before having to choose between 44. Dh6+ and 44. Qxc2. The impression is that, for players of that level, that choice was easy in comparison. |
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Dec-10-23
| | perfidious: <Gaito....44.Qh6+ Kg8 45.e7 Rgd2+ 46.Qxd2 Rxd2+ 47.Kc1, and Black is helpless against the threat 48 e8=Q, forcing immediate resignation.....> As I already noted, though you have further elucidated it. Who has been saying Niemann 'had an easy win'? |
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Dec-10-23
| | fredthebear: Was the shih tzu of any help offramp? Do you now bark at noises in the night? Not the same, and you know it, perd.
Oh, pickle that pig's ear, maybe with some hard-boiled eggs. In time, a festive treat. |
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Dec-10-23
 | | HeMateMe: Nice pun, a knowledge of American history on display here. |
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| Dec-10-23 | | Cassandro: Well, the pun refers to a battle having taken place at Wounded Knee. Except it was never a real battle at all, it was a massacre. |
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Dec-10-23
| | fredthebear: FTB has been to Wounded Knee and studied the massacre. Frankly, I don't see the connection to chess. I doubt our Native Americans would either. Hans Niemann did not get massacred in 75 moves, and he's a Pale Face. On the Pine Ridge reservation, he likely would be called a Wasichu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasi%... The Pine Ridge reservation is one of the poorest places in the USA. Many there battle a life of poverty and addiction every day. Anyone who wants to help might try this organization (FTB has no affiliation): https://friendsofpineridgereservati... |
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Dec-10-23
| | offramp: <Beer Rami Taher ❤ @ Albert Vajda Xinyang Nie.> |
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Dec-10-23
| | fredthebear: I can't tell any difference offramp. It must be your left ear? |
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Dec-10-23
| | offramp: My left ear version was
<Beer Rami HEART AT Vajda Nie>.
"Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee." |
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| Dec-13-23 | | EvanTheTerrible: Daniel King suggested that Niemann probably thought he could play 45. e7, but initially overlooked 45... Qg4+! with a beautiful mate after Rxg4 Ne3#. |
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May-14-25
| | perfidious: Just reread Myrer's work <Once an Eagle>, published in 1968, for the first time in many years and came across 'sockdollager' [sic]. I was in disbelief. |
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