Max Warmerdam vs Ian Nepomniachtchi (2024)

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Max Warmerdam vs Ian Nepomniachtchi
Tata Steel Masters (2024), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 1, Jan-13
Queen's Gambit Declined: Vienna Variation (D39) · 0-1

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Jan-13-24		HeMateMe: what's the finish?

Jan-13-24		Messiah: <HeMateMe: what's the finish?> A queensac is always looming, with severe problems on the a8-h1 diagonal, leading to the Rook on d1 checkmating. The other possibility is a total passivity by White, in almost Zugzwang-like positions.

Jan-13-24		technical draw: The problem with white is that his knight on f3 appears to be permanently pinned and his queen has to do the unqueenly job of protecting the e-pawn.

Jan-13-24		jphamlore: Compare this game to Peralta - Pichot 97th ch-ARG 2022 after 15. ..0-0-0 click for larger view In that other game, White could just play 16. Bf3, trade off the light-squared bishops, and never get into the danger White did this game.

Jan-13-24		goodevans: I would always think not twice but three, four or five times about playing g3 if my opponent had a B on b7 (after I'd already developed my LSB that is). Looked risky when Warmerdam did it and looked truly ominous when Black's Q came to join the B on that diagonal a couple of moves later. White's N is essentially 'pinned' to blocking access to g2 and h1. Stockfish isn't instantly damning of <20.g3> but from a practical perspective the weaknesses this creates are difficult to defend.

Jan-13-24		cormier: depth=35 \| Stockfish 16 -1.18 21... Qc6 22. Qe1 Nb3 23. Rxc4 Rd8 24. Rc3 Nxe3 25. Rxe3 Nd4 26. b4 Nxe2+ 27. Qxe2 Ba6 28. Qc2 Bxf1 29. Kxf1 e5 30. h4 Rd5 31. Qg6 Kb7 32. Kg2 Rf8 33. Qh6 Re8 34. b5 Qxc5 35. Qxf6 Qxb5 36. a4 Qd7 37. Ng5 Rd4 38. Ne4 Rc4 39. Kh2 a6 40. Qf3 Ka7 41. Qxh5 Qxa4

Jan-13-24		cormier: depth=36 \| Stockfish 16 -0.43 21. Nd4 h4 22. Qe4 Kb8 23. c6 Nxc6 24. Nxe6 Nxe3 25. Qxe3 Re8 26. Bf3 Bc8 27. b3 cxb3 28. Bd5 Bxe6 29. Bxe6 Na5 30. Rd4 Qc6 31. Re4 hxg3 32. fxg3 Rh5 33. Rf5 Rxf5 34. Bxf5 Rxe4 35. Bxe4 b2 36. Kf2 Qd6 37. h4 Kc8 38. Qxa7 Qd2+ 39. Kf3 Qc3+ 40. Qe3 Qc1 -0.74 21. Nh4 c3 22. Rd4 Qb3 23. bxc3 Nxc3 24. Qe1 e5 25. Rb4 Qc2 26. Bd1 Nxd1 27. Qxd1 Qxd1 28. Rxd1 Rd8 29. Rbb1 Be4 30. Rxd8+ Rxd8 31. Re1 Bd3 32. Rd1 Rd7 33. Ng2 Be4 34. Rxd7 Kxd7 35. f4 Ke6 36. Bf2 Nb3 37. Be3 -0.80 21. Qe4 Qc6 22. Nd4 Nf4 23. Qxc6 Nxe2+ 24. Nxe2 Nxc6 25. Nd4 h4 26. Nxc6 Bxc6 27. Bd4 e5 28. Bc3 Kb7 29. Rfe1 Ka6 30. Rd2 Kb5 31. Re3 Rg7 32. Kf1 a5 33. Rd1 hxg3 34. hxg3 Bd7 35. c6 Be6 36. Kg2 Ka4 37. f3

Jan-14-24		cormier: depth=40 \| Stockfish 16 0.00 20. Rd4 Qc6 21. Rfd1 Nxe3 22. fxe3 Qxc5 23. Qc2 Qb6 24. Qc3 h5 25. Rf4 e5 26. Rh4 Rg7 27. g3 Rg4 28. Rxg4 hxg4 29. Nh4 Kb8 30. Bxg4 Nb3 31. Be2 Nc5 32. Qxc4 Ne4 33. Rd3 Nc5 34. Rc3 Qxb2 35. Rc2 Qb1+ 36. Bf1 0.00 20. Qe4 Qe8 21. Qc2 Nc6 22. Qa4 Qh5 23. g3 Nxe3 24. fxe3 Ne5 25. Nxe5 Qxe2 26. Rf2 Qxe3 27. Qd7+ Kb8 28. Nc6+ Ka8 29. Ne7 Rb8 30. c6 Ba6 31. Qxc7 Rxb2 32. Rd8+ Rxd8 33. Qxd8+ Rb8 34. c7 Qc1+ 35. Rf1 Qe3+ 0.00 20. h3 Nxe3 21. fxe3 Rg3 22. Rf2 f5 23. Rd4 Rhg8 24. Qe1 e5 25. Rh4 Qc6 26. Rh5 Qe4 27. Qc3 Nb3 28. Qxc4 Qxe3 29. Rg5 R3xg5 30. Nxg5 Qc1+ 31. Qxc1 Nxc1 32. h4 Nxe2+ 33. Rxe2 e4 34. Nxh7 Rh8 35. Ng5 Rxh4 36. Ne6 Bd5 37. g3 Rg4 38. Nf4 Bc4 39. Re3 Kd7 40. Rc3

Jan-14-24		fredthebear: Absolutely. This is not Capablanca's Queen's Gambit. Looks like a D39 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin, Vienna Variation.

Jan-14-24		nok: Not a Ragozin. .

Jan-14-24		perfidious: Of course not, despite the assertion above; because the bishop never got to b4, it can be neither D38 nor D39. <goodevans....Stockfish isn't instantly damning of <20.g3> but from a practical perspective the weaknesses this creates are difficult to defend.> Whatever White chooses at this stage, he will have trouble getting his pieces coordinated; his opponent's piece play and spatial advantage far outweigh the tatty pawn structure and cession of the bishop pair.

Jan-14-24		whiteshark: Looks like a QGA to me, e.g. Queen's Gambit Accepted (D24)

Jan-14-24		technical draw: I'm with <whiteshark>. When I first saw it it looked like QGA to me. But there are so many named variations this could be just a "queen's pawn game".

Jan-14-24		Messiah: <perfidious: Of course not, despite the assertion above; because the bishop never got to b4, it can be neither D38 nor D39. <goodevans....Stockfish isn't instantly damning of <20.g3> but from a practical perspective the weaknesses this creates are difficult to defend.> Whatever White chooses at this stage, he will have trouble getting his pieces coordinated; his opponent's piece play and spatial advantage far outweigh the tatty pawn structure and cession of the bishop pair.> Please stop posting. 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

Jan-14-24		fredthebear: <it can be neither D38 or D39.> Boyz, Girlz, Grownups, Undecideds, Whateverz, You know me. You know me. You damn well know the always disparaging <perfidious> will never put one over on Fredthebear so easily. He's the laziest regular poster that CGs has -- no effort in his posts; so light on the details, accuracy, the truth. He's a sham poster, a cyberbully. FTB gonna put my stalker in his corrected place -- AGAIN. But... You'll have to wait though. I've got more pressing matters this day -- like Tata Steel Masters! Chow!

Jan-16-24		fredthebear: D39 Queen's Gambit Declined, Vienna Variation has now been corrected. References: - https://learn.chessbase.com/en/page... - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen... - https://www.modern-chess.com/chess-... - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show... nm - There are several hundred Queen's Gambit videos available on-line for free. Your favorite source of reliable chess videos likely has something on the topic. Popular streamers like GothamChess, Anna Cramling, and thechesswebsite are usually good places to start. - Video of the game above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st4... FTB has long distrusted the CGs opening labeling system, having sent in so many endless ECO corrections that it's become pointless. I should have known that D39 is infected with errors like the rest. To be fair, it's an almost impossible task to correctly label so many games from so many sources. As suggested, ...Bb4 signals the QGD Ragozin Defense. The continuation BxNc3 is not necessary; the bishop may capture, stay in place, or retreat and it's Ragozin waters regardless. Retreating to ...Be7 is sometimes played, generally on the 8th-13th ply as in the game above. The readers can find contemporary Ragozin games with ...Be7 involving Ding Liren, Magnus Carlsen, Ian Nepomniachtchi, Wesley So, etc. in this database. However, ...Be7 is definitely not the main line. Given the Opening Explorer page Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin, Vienna Variation (D39) labeling Ragozin all over, one certainly thinks these D39 games are all Rogozins. The first appearance of 4...Bb4 is not until 1933. Twenty other games have already been posted?! Viacheslav Ragozin himself did not play 4...Bb4 until 1936: A Budo vs Ragozin, 1936 FWIW, sometimes 4...Bb4+ or 5...Bb4+ is played before the Nc3 has been developed and we're still in Ragozin waters IF Nc3 is played. With that, FTB will leave it up to the readers to decide which D39 games are properly labeled Ragozin, and which are not.

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