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| Oct-29-06 | | Far1ey: First! Qe2 is the real answer and I'll be surprised if anyone got it! |
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Oct-29-06
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: I saw the correct move, but I didn't see the incorrect move that was actually played, so I didn't see the move that could have won for Black. How much credit do I give myself? |
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| Oct-29-06 | | chessmoron: I also saw Qe2.
I missed 51...Qh2! and thought 51...Nf6+ |
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Oct-29-06
 | | LIFE Master AJ: Qe2 is so blatantly obvious ... White must prevent the check. (I would be surprised if anyone misses this one. I would be equally surprised if anyone found the drawing/winning line for Black.) I also calculated the following line ... WITHOUT the computer:
47.♘b2, ♕e1+!; < (Putting the King on g4 is easily stopped by ...Nf6#.) > 48.g3, ♕c1!; 49.♘d3, g5+; 50.fxg5, ♕xg5 mate. Some diehard can look at this with a box ... and tell me how much I missed. |
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Oct-29-06
| | LIFE Master AJ: DEJA VU
And to be completely honest ... I have seen this game somewhere before. My head was filled with lines, its easier to believe that this was memory, rather than brute force analysis. |
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Oct-29-06
 | | chessgames.com: We picked this for Sunday because White, being ahead three healthy pawns, would lure many people into thinking that this is a "White to play and win" puzzle. In fact, it's not. White is in dire straights and must find an "only move" to secure the draw. To fully have solved this problem you should: (a) have realized that White cannot win this position, (b) seen that the ONLY move that secures a draw is 47.Qe2! and (c) be able to continue given some of Black's likely responses. (E.g., 47.Qe2 Qd4 48.Qb2 Nc3(!) and how does White continue?) That's a fairly tall order.
You can see why 47.Kg4? loses in the notes to the game, but to really complete the exercise, analyze these incorrect tries and find out why each one loses: 47.f5?
47.g3?
47.a3?
47.b4?
47.Qg4?
47.Qd3?
47.Nb2?
47.Nc3?
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| Oct-29-06 | | dzechiel: Missed this one completely. I'm too embarrassed to tell the move I selected. |
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| Oct-29-06 | | THE pawn: Go on, I missed it too! |
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| Oct-29-06 | | vibes43: With so few pieces this should be easy. I'm not peeking here. It could be a race of the pawns to the finish maybe. There's so much interaction. If Q could just get down to row 8. Maybe a knight sac will clear the way. Hmmm. Well, back to it. |
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Oct-29-06
 | | al wazir: I realize that white is three ♙s up, but just for curious, how does he win after 47. Qe2 Qe4 ? If 48. g4 then 48...Qf6+ 49. g5 Nxg5 50. Kg3 (50. fxg5 Qxg5#; 50. Kg4 Qf5+ 51. Kh4 Qxf4+ 52. Qg4 Nf3#) Ne4+ 51. Kf3 Ng5+, and white has to give up another ♙ or repeat the position. If 48. Kg4 then 48...Nf6+ 49. Kf3 (49. Kg3 Nh5+, followed by Qxf4+ or Nxf4) Nh5. I don't know what happens next. |
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| Oct-29-06 | | jahhaj: <cg.com> I picked #1 on your list! Mate in 3, as my computer then told me. |
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| Oct-29-06 | | jahhaj: <al wazir> 47...Qe4 is not legal, do you mean 47...Qd4? If so then your line starting 48.Kg4 seems to get White's king out of danger. Despite the notes, White doesn't seem to have a win after 47.Qe2 Qh2, the threat 48...Qg3+ forces 48.Qf3 or 48.Qg4 and then 48...Qg1 with the threat of 49...Qe1+ forces 49.Qe2 with repetition. |
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| Oct-29-06 | | Necessary Truths: After 51. Kg4, the notes say that 51. .... Qh2 wins for black. I can see how this works for everything except 52. Qe2. Anyone see the winning line here? |
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| Oct-29-06 | | jahhaj: <Necessary Truths> 51.Kg4 Qh2 52.Qe2 Qg3# |
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| Oct-29-06 | | vibes43: I feel so lured. |
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Oct-29-06
 | | Benzol: I fell into the same line as Alburt.
:( |
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| Oct-29-06 | | ceebo: <LIFE Master AJ I also calculated the following line ... WITHOUT the computer: 47.Nb2, Qe1+!; < (Putting the King on g4 is easily stopped by ...Nf6#.) > 48.g3, Qc1!; 49.Nd3, g5+; 50.fxg5, Qxg5 mate.> The saving reply to 48...Qc1 is 49. Nc4. Seems that 48...Qa5 is the way. |
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| Oct-29-06 | | Archives: I eat puzzles like this for breakfast. They taste good with some light syrup and a side of fries |
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| Oct-29-06 | | nateinstein: I understood that "(a) have realized that White cannot win this position" I found only two moves I liked, Qe2 and f5. However, I did not see that f5 was bad, so I guess I did not completely solve the problem. Over the board I probably would have played Qe2 since it seemed safer since it protects the king. |
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| Oct-29-06 | | nateinstein: The move that was played, Kg4, was about the only move I definitely would not have played lol. Why walk into a check with no other plan? Was white only looking to draw with Kg4? |
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| Oct-29-06 | | greensfield: I must be half thinking on the right lines at last. Selected 47. Qe2 straight away as it prevents the check on e1 & protects pawns on 2nd rank. Looked at continuations 47...Qh2 leading to a draw, and 47...Qd4 struggled with the outcome. |
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| Oct-29-06 | | dakgootje: < I eat puzzles like this for breakfast. They taste good with some light syrup and a side of fries> Yups, or with fava beans and nice chianti for dinner |
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Oct-29-06
| | An Englishman: Good Evening: <chessgames>, I like these curveball puzzles and hope to see more of them, even though I almost always get them wrong. At first, I was looking for a means by which White could play the Queen to h8 and checkmate Black without allowing a mating counterattack. It took a while to realize that White was in serious trouble and had to scramble for a defense first. |
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Oct-29-06
| | al wazir: <jahhaj>: Thanks for the correction and analysis. Yes, I think the comment in the note is misleading at best. |
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| Oct-29-06 | | Fisheremon: <chessgames.com><greensfield> Thanks for a beautiful puzzle. One sees how could Black benefit the tight position of White's King and the off-side position of White's Knight at a4. The most difficult variation (leading to a draw for white) is 47. Qe2 Qd4 48. Qb2 Nc3 49. Kg4 Qd1+ 50. Kg3 Ne4+ 51. Kh2 d4 52. Qa3! Qe1 53. b4 Nd2 54. b5 Nf1+ 55. Kg1 Ne3+ 56. Kh2 Qf2 57. Qf8+ perp. |
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