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|Oct-28-08|| ||gawain: I am thinking that Bronstein missed a good chance with his passed pawn. |
31 Nf3 Ne4
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if 32 Re1 Bc5
|Oct-28-08|| ||Brown: I was thinking similarly, <gawain>, but it seems white will maintain control much like the game after 31.Nb3 (temporarily preventing ...Bc5) followed by 32.Nd4 or Re1.|
|Oct-29-08|| ||gawain: You are right, <Brown> I can find no edge for B in any of the plausible lines after 31 Nb3. |
I see that you are a Bronstein fan. So am I. I admire his style of play and I also enjoy reading his annotations which manage to be both helpful and entertaining.
|Sep-06-11|| ||Everett: This is really a fun and rich game, with Bronstein "making it interesting" as usual with 23..Rxc3.|
And according to Karolyi in his new book on Karpov, Bronstein forced Karpov to make some mistakes. After Karpov's 33rd <Rb5 is better> Bronstein misses a draw with <33..Nf4+ 34.Kf1 <34.Ke3 Nxg2+ 35.Ke2 Nf4+ with repetition> 34..e3! 35.Nf3 e2+ 36.Kg1 Kf8> A pity Bronstein missed it...
Earlier, <31..Ng4> is also an improvement, though White seems to be winning with best play, but it would be fun to play out.
|Sep-06-11|| ||Everett: My previous line for move 33 makes no sense. I was quoting from the book without the position in front of me... Deserves closer scrutiny. I wonder if they have the same score.|
The comment regarding <31..Ng4> still stands, and one sample line may be <31..Ng4 32.Kf1 Ne3+ 33.Ke2 Nxf5 34.g4> which Karolyi assess as trouble for Black. Im guessing the best response for Bronstein would be <34...Ne7> with a position beyond my ability to assess.
As far as the other line on move 33. I think if we started with <32..Nh5 33.Ke2 Nf4+> and that line makes sense now...
|Jul-28-12|| ||Everett: Another look! It seems <Gawain's> idea is much more effective one move later, as both 30..Bd6 and 31.Kg1 help Black.|
<31..e3! 32.Nf3 <Nb3 Ne4 33.Nc1 <heading for e2; note 33.Re1?? Bxg3 and Bronstein even wins> 33..Nxc3 34.Ra1 and Black is only slightly inferior> 32..Ne4 33.Ra1 e2> and things are getting interesting. Karpov is likely slightly better in all these lines, but <31..e3> produces lines that make things very tough for him to win.
|Jul-31-12|| ||Everett: http://www.365chess.com/view_game.p...
According to the above link, moves 32 and 33 for Black may possibly have been inverted. This does make a difference, according to Karolyi, who claims that Bronstein had a draw in the game after <32..Nh5 33.Ke2? Nf4+ 34.Kf1 e3 35.Nf3 e2+ 36. Kg1 Kf8>.
I'm not sure which score is correct. If anyone has a definitive score for this game, please let me know.
|Sep-18-12|| ||Blunderdome: This pun.|
|Sep-18-12|| ||xynkrn: <Everett> I think you are right, the following link also shows moves 32 and 33 inverted, and as you say it makes a significant difference.|
|Sep-18-12|| ||RookFile: Bronstein put up ingenious resistance, but Karpov played a great game.|
|Sep-18-12|| ||HeMateMe: Great pun, nice game.|
|Sep-18-12|| ||Blunderdome: Wait, no, guys. Seriously. This pun is so fantastic.|
|Sep-18-12|| ||kevin86: Black seemed to dominate the game until the end. When the smoke cleared,it was Karpov who won the game.|
|Sep-18-12|| ||JRMenezes: After reading the title of the game I am planning to watch the movie, Anatomy of a Murder|
|Sep-18-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Do I get credit for this pun, or is it a coincidence? I suggested it as a movie title on the Odd Lie page yesterday.|
|Sep-18-12|| ||rapidcitychess: <Jim Bartle>
Give yourself a cookie and pat your own back. :)
|Sep-18-12|| ||scormus: <JB> whatever, a brilliant pun. Seems to sum up the game perfectly.|
Was there ever a better player than Anatoli for defending an awkward position but with material edge? Great to see Bronstein still fighting and hanging tough right to the end.
|Sep-18-12|| ||chessgames.com: <Jim Bartle: Do I get credit for this pun, or is it a coincidence?> You get full credit, Jim. Brilliant pun, brilliant game.|
|Sep-18-12|| ||schnarre: ...The day's pun seems very apt for this game! Nice ending by Karpov.|
|Sep-19-12|| ||Gambit All: What's wrong with 39. ♔x♘g3?|
|Sep-19-12|| ||PhilFeeley: So Karpov got to play Bronstein, but never Fischer. Strange. And tragic.|
|Sep-20-12|| ||RookFile: Karpov also played Reshevsky, Najdorf, and Keres.|
|Apr-04-16|| ||keypusher: <Gambit All: What's wrong with 39. ♔x♘g3?>|
|Apr-04-16|| ||Howard: Right on, keypusher !|
|Dec-08-19|| ||Honza Cervenka: 21...Rxa4 22.Rxa4 d5! could have spared black of all difficulties, for example 23.Nxd5 (23.exd5 Bb4) 23...Nxd5 24.exd5 Qb7 25.Qe4 (25.Qxe5? Rc8 ∓) 25...Qb5 26.h3 (to avoid threatening mate) 26...Rc8 27.Ra1 Rc4 28.Qd3 e4 29.Qe2 Qxd5 etc.|
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