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Max Euwe vs Hendrik van Hartingsvelt
"Mini Max" (game of the day Apr-28-2012)
Amsterdam1 (1920), Amsterdam NED
Three Knights Opening: General (C46)  ·  1-0

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May-31-05  laskerdog: There's a lot to learn from this game.
I suspect 9.e5 deserves a "!", but black has already served him "balle de match", by misguarding the knight. The kings desperate effort of saving material stranded tragically (15.g4!)
Nov-04-08  positional wizard: with 7.b3 white wanted to develop his bishop on b2, thinking that black will move his bishop to e7.But black choosed g6 which is too slow after which white seized the opportunity and move his bishop to g5 leading to winning breakthrough based on pin.
Apr-28-12
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  Phony Benoni: Seems to me White won with brute force.
Apr-28-12
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  LoveThatJoker: 7...g6 and (especially) 8...Bg7? were not part of the correct plan for Black in this position. Clearly 7...Be7 or, at the very least, 8...Be7 were to be preferred.

LTJ

Apr-28-12  sevenseaman: A very pretty game! Euwe was entirely predictable until 19. Rdg1+.

I said Max must want badly for the other R to stay at the B-attacked h1. Far-sighted indeed! How far the masters can see! It was a crucial decision.

Mating position makes it clear how essential this R was to 'h' file. The two Rs command the entire K wing.

What a cul de sac for the Black K! And wot a pun, 'Mini Max'! Cheers contributor!

Apr-28-12
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  HeMateMe: Isn't "MiniMax" a term used in statistical forcasting? Somewhere, the dim cobwebs are receding, and I see an Econ 101 book, heavily outlined, in the back of my head.
Apr-28-12  thomastonk: <LoveThatJoker: Clearly 7...Be7 or, at the very least, 8...Be7 were to be preferred.> 8.. Be7 doesn't help because of 9.Nd5!
Apr-28-12  Ratt Boy: Black erred on his twelfth move. The correct move was 12...Resigns.
Apr-28-12
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  LoveThatJoker: <thomastonk> You are correct in saying that 8...Be7 doesn't help due to 9. Nd5! Funnily enough it is not much worse than 8...Bg7:

8...Bg7 <+2.54 at a depth of 23>, 8...Be7 <+2.66 at a depth of 23>.

This acknowledged, I was - and still am - correct in saying that 7...Be7 is a clear improvement to 7...g6? which commences a bad plan on the part of Black.

Stockfish confirms the correctness of my idea by saying that 7...Be7 <+0.32 at a Depth of 23> is the best move for Black in the position!

LTJ

Apr-28-12  Llawdogg: That is quite a mating net.
Apr-28-12  fokers13: <HeHateMe> It's also used in programming and heuristic algorithms especially and while an interesting pun,i think maxmax is more accurate(seeing Euwe won).

Nice game btw.

Apr-28-12
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  FSR: 7.b3!? turned out to be a nice feint, provoking the plausible 7...g6?? to contest the long diagonal. After the diagonal-switching 8.Bg5! Black could already have resigned.
Apr-28-12
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  AylerKupp: Reminds me of this classic game: Ed Lasker vs G A Thomas, 1912
Apr-28-12  kevin86: Was black being paid by the hour? With a piece behind AND an exposed king,I thought the he would resign.

Maybe he wanted to see the final picture.

Apr-28-12  backrank: <HeMateMe: Isn't "MiniMax" a term used in statistical forcasting?>

Yes, especially in game theory (which has widespread applications to economical analysis) and risk theory. Taking into account that Max Euwe was a maths teacher, there are plenty of acquisitions that can be made.

As to the game, it's interesting that after 9. e5 everything seems to be over, although Black has made plausible moves only. Chess is so cruel ... (and even illogical, sometimes).

Apr-28-12  JoergWalter: <Mini Max> was another title for "Get Smart" TV series (Maxwell Smart).

Don't confuse <Mini Max> with the mathematical term <MinMax>.

Apr-28-12
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  maxi: I wonder what <Phony Benoni> means when he says that "White won with brute force".

By the way, I don't think it is funny to make jokes about Euwe's name.

Apr-28-12
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  Phony Benoni: <maxi> Looks like I was demonstrating my ignorance again. I had thought that "brute force" and "minimax" were two contrasing methods in chess computer programming, but now that I look it up they actually appear to be used together.

No wonder nobody thought it was funny.

Apr-29-12
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  maxi: I was confused because perhaps a beginner may think that it may be brutally aggressive to go after the king in this fashion, but I was sure that you knew that the king hunt is the logical procedure in this situation and that it is bound to succeed.
Apr-29-12  JoergWalter: Euwe also knew how it felt to be on the wrong side of a brutal execution:

Euwe vs Reti, 1920

Apr-29-12
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  sorokahdeen: I think the actual point of the MiniMax pun is (or is certainly plausible as) a reference to Euwe's age at the time this game was played.

Wikipedia gives Euwe's date of birth as May 20, 1901 which would make him nineteen years old when this encounter was played, long and long before he would reach his full strength and be fit to sit across the table from Alekhine fifteen years later, in 1935.

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