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Robert James Fischer vs Viktor Korchnoi
Herceg Novi blitz (1970) (blitz), Herceg Novi MNE, rd 10, Apr-08
French Defense: Winawer. Advance Variation (C19)  ·  0-1

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Nov-14-12
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  perfidious: In that collection compiled by <ugh-haibu>, the example he cited was a French by transposition.

Kasparov answered 1.e4 with ....e6 twice, one of which was a blitz game. This is the only serious game where Kasparov essayed the French: C Hansen vs Kasparov, 1980.

Mar-29-13  leka: this a blitz tournament in 1970 might be the rating scrore fo Fischer 2991 rating 19/22 86,36%.But Magnus Carlsen did the same score 2991 rating in London 2012.The highest rating ever must be A.Alekhine in San Remo in 1930 92,8% results 3042 points.Jeff Sonas gives wrongfully the highest score to Karpon 2899 rating in Linares.Jeff Sonas is wrong he gives Karpov 2899 score in Linares in 1994.The real Karpov score 3016,6 points
Mar-29-13  ughaibu: What about Lasker in the final at Saint Petersberg 1914? 87.5% against Capablanca, Alekhine, Tarrasch and Marshall.
Mar-30-13  leka: You are correct.If you take only the final 6 games of Lasker agaist Capablanca Alekhine Tarrasch Marshall. I believe Lasker scored 7/8 87,5% score.This give the highest rating ever 3074,78. But the whole ST.Petersbourg in 1914 Lasker rating was 2900.5.And Lasker was his prime in years 1894-1899.Lasker was 46 years old in ST.Petersbourg.Karpov was 43 years in Linares in 1994.Suprinsgly Korchnoi was his prime 46-48 years old in years 1978 match against Karpon WC loss 5-6.Korchnoi scored in 1978 chess olympiad 79,8%.Smyslov at age 62 years old in 1984 against Kasparov.Smyslov was his prime in 1948-1958.Jeff Sonas downgrades the older generations of players.Sonas gives P.Morphy rating 2742 a joke.Morphy was closer to 2900 rating player
Mar-30-13  leka: Sorry Ughaibu.Lasker played 8 games against Capablanca Tarrasch Alekhine Marshall scoring 7/8 87,5% score
Mar-30-13  Olavi: If we start dividing tournaments into parts then Fischer's second leg in Santa Barbara 1966 (7,5/9) is good too...
Mar-30-13
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  AylerKupp: <Olavi> Two minor corrections:

1. The tournament, 2nd Piatagorsky Cup, was played in Santa Monica, not Santa Barbara. I know, I was there.

2. Fischer's score in the second half, rounds 10 18 was a still "pretty good" 7/9 (78%), not 7.5/9 (83%):

- Wins against Portisch, Ivkov, Donner, Larsen, and Najdorf

- Draws against Petrosian, Reshevsky, Unzicker, and Spassky

But it was his recovery in rounds 9 16 after 3 straight losses, scoring 6.5/8 (81%) and catching up with Spassky (who was 2 points ahead after round 8) that was truly remarkable and made for an exciting finish.

And Kramnik's results in the current 2013 Candidates Tournament are just as remarkable; down 2 points to Carlsen at the beginning of round 8 after 7 straight draws, he's scored 4/5 (90%) in the last 5 rounds to capture the lead in the tournament with 2 rounds to go and set up another exciting finish.

Mar-31-13  ughaibu: Olavi: we didn't divide the tournament, the organisers did.
Apr-02-13  leka: Iwas wrong.Viktor Korchnoi was at his very best from 1973-1984.At age 52-53 years old Korchnoi scored 2900 rating in a super grand master tournament in 1984.The only one older was better E.Lasker win in new york in 1924 at age 56 years old.Emanuel Lasker scored over 2941 rating in new york in 1924
Apr-02-13  Petrosianic: <And Kramnik's results in the current 2013 Candidates Tournament are just as remarkable; down 2 points to Carlsen at the beginning of round 8...>

He was only 1 down.

Apr-02-13
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  AylerKupp: Yup, you're right, I miscalculated. Still, I got the 4 / 5 part right and that was a significant achievement. Too bad that he couldn't keep it up in the last 2 rounds, then we really could have called it a remarkable comeback.
Jul-23-13  The Rocket: This is supposed to be the strongest blitz player of all time(Fischer that is). Eh, hardly....This game is a pretty good example, he misses what, 3 one movers?.

He was lost against Tal as black as well, but Misha faultered, in a hard fight.

Annonating by result is unfortunately far too common in chess. Fact is that Fischers level of play was nothing over the ordinary in these blitz games(as he acknowledgesin his annonations) but he moved fast, that's it.

Jul-23-13  RookFile: That must be why Tal said the Russians were so interested in studying these blitz games - for example, this one:

Korchnoi vs Fischer, 1970

Jul-23-13  The Rocket: His best game. Most were forgettable. The King's Indian mainlines are a self playing piano for black, anything but attacking makes you lose in a rather stupid way.

Perhaps a less explored opening at that time, but still.

Aug-10-13  Zugzwangovich: <AlexandraThess: What a shame for Fischer. Playing against Korchnoi with a rook down LoL. Shame!> After move 51 Fischer probably thought he might still be able to win on time but gave up the idea as hopeless when Korch played his next three moves in about two nanoseconds. Bear in mind that in 1987 Kasparov won a blitz game on time vs. Karpov despite being a rook, knight, and pawn in arrears.
Jun-12-16  The Boomerang: Why no Harry Lime comments on a game that Fischer lost? And if Fischer was so far ahead at that time why did it take him so long to win the world championship?
Jun-12-16
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  MissScarlett: Because the Russians had fixed world chess, stupid.
Mar-22-17  The Boomerang: "and one saw Karpov as a weak, pathetic, frail, joke.

Of course, we had to wait until 1984 to see how accurate that was."

Weak joke?....lol...face it Fischer chickened out of the 1975 match and there is nothing to redeem the fact.

Mar-22-17  Absentee: <The Rocket: ...he moved fast, that's it.>

This should go straight to the memorable quotes page, except he's serious.

Nov-06-18
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  thegoodanarchist: This might be Fischer's worst game of the 1970s...

Blitz will do that to you sometimes.

Nov-06-18
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  thegoodanarchist: <Absentee: <The Rocket: ...he moved fast, that's it.>

This should go straight to the memorable quotes page, except he's serious.>

LOL.

Who <doesn't> move fast in blitz? Anyone?

Jul-24-20  KID Slayer: Games like this raise the question as to why players with Black didn't use the French against Fischer more often.

If I'm not mistaken it was his toughest opening to play against, especially the Winawer.

Jul-24-20
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  harrylime: <<KID Slayer: Games like this raise the question as to why players with Black didn't use the French against Fischer more often. If I'm not mistaken it was his toughest opening to play against, especially the Winawer.>>

Either way you are correct...

Tho check Ooooot Bobby's game v Samuel Schweber ...

Jul-24-20
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  harrylime: Bobby owned Korchnoi from the late 60's onwards
Jul-24-20
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  beatgiant: <harrylime>
<Bobby owned Korchnoi from the late 60's onwards> Since 1965, they played two classical games, both drawn. They played two blitz games, with Fischer winning one and Korchnoi winning the other.

So the score between them was even. If that means owning somebody, it must mean they owned each other.

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