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Stefano Tatai vs Anatoly Karpov
Las Palmas (1977), Las Palmas ESP, rd 13, May-??
English Opening: Symmetrical. Three Knights Variation (A34)  ·  0-1

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Sep-20-08  Woody Wood Pusher: Great game. 23..Qd3! is an amazing move especially followed by 25..Re2+!

Just look how quickly Karpov grabs the initiative in this game! He pushed white's whole army to the back of the board in a few moves and flushed out the white king for mate on the a-file.

WOW!

Oct-22-08  gulliver: Am I missing something? It seems White could have won with declining the Queen sacrifice. Instead of 24. exd3? , White can play 24. Qd2 QxQ 25.Kxd2 Rad8+ 26. Ke1 Bf3 and 27. exf3. I don't see any tactics for Black. 27..exf3+ 28. Kf1 fxg2+ 29. Kxg2 b3 Am I missing something
Nov-04-08  Saul.Richman: Hey Gulliver, well spotted!

I had a look on my own, couldn't see anything decisive against 24 Qd2, then reluctantly turned on the Silicon Magician - and he couldn't see anything either.

24 ... Qb3 would be my choice but 25 Qe3 definitely seems playable. Crafty is saying exchange Queens and 26 ... Bd7!? Mmmm, hardly decisive, though you'd have to favour Karpov technique in practice.

So, nice work Gulliver! It's the old adage "sideways moves are hard to find". This from a man who overlooked Qh6 x Qb6 last week in a League Game and is still sleeping badly at throwing away a full-point :-)

Anyone else try to refute 24 Qd2 ??

Feb-07-09  M.D. Wilson: Karpov often successfully blunted and ultimately smashed the English.
Jan-23-10  Touchdown: Gulliver,

after 29...b3 Black is winning : rooks on the open file and they can go on the second rank, weakness on b2, strong pawn in b3. White knight cannot move because he defends b2, he can't connect his rooks. Too much.

Rybka give in your variation, instead of 27.exf3 27.Rg1 fxg2 28.Rxg2 and give equal position. Only a computer can think that a rook on g2 is not a bad square in this position !

Dec-20-11
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  wordfunph: 23...Qd3, this is real chess!

this may not be the best move if analyzed using a robot but Karpov was in the mood of painting a Mona Lisa against Tatai..

bravo Tolya!

Sep-26-14  SpiritedReposte: Karpov took some Shirov pills for this game.
Mar-06-15  TheBish: I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but it's not really a sacrifice when you immediately win the piece back! Not to take anything away from 23...Qd3!!, which is truly a brilliant move... but it's not a sacrifice! Sham sacrifice maybe, but not a true one.
Mar-06-15  Petrosianic: <it's not really a sacrifice when you immediately win the piece back!>

Yep. That's what's known in the business as an "Exchange".

Mar-18-15
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  perfidious: It is amusing in its way that two relatively short games of the late 1970s were crushing victories for Black in the Symmetrical English, another being Polugaevsky vs Tal, 1979, though the subvariation employed in that game is well known for sharp play.
Apr-14-19
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  ChessHigherCat: This variant leaves black a rook up, which suffices for evil materialists:

22...e3 23. Nxe3 Qxb2 24. Qxb2 Bxb2 25. Ra2 bxa3 26. Nc4 Be6 27. Nxb2 Bxa2 28. Nd3 Bb1 29. Nc1 a2 30. Nxa2 Bxa2

However, the variant with 23. fxe3 is a bit harder to deal with:

22...e3 23. fxe3 Qb6 24. O-O Bf5 25. Qc1 Rac8 26. Qd2 Red8 27. Bd5+ Kh8

28.???

Leading to this, where I think white has to sac the exchange or lose a piece:


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Apr-14-19
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  ChessHigherCat: Wow, I looked at 23...Bf3 but I figured white would just castle. The pseudo queen sac is considerably fancypantsier.
Apr-14-19
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  agb2002: A bit famous.
Apr-14-19  Walter Glattke: 22.-e3 23.Qb3+ Be6 24.Qxe3 / 23.-Kh8 24.Nxe3 Rxa3 25.Rxa3 bxa3 26.Qxa3 Rxe3 27-Qa8+ / 23.-Re6 24.Nxe3 seem all to win for white
Apr-14-19  schachfuchs: The engine gives 24.Qd2 Qxd2+ 25.Kxd2 bxa3 26.Rxa3 Rac8 and now

a.) 27.Nc3 (-2.04)
b.) 27.f3 (-2.08)
c.) 27.Ke1 (-2.09)

Apr-14-19  MrMelad: That went way over my head. Nice game!
Apr-14-19  goodevans: Karpov - <Karpov!> - offers a queen sac and you take it? What were you thinking?

SF gives <24.Qd2> but I'd have played <24.Qxd3>. Either way white gets slowly crushed rather than the fireworks that follow <24.exd3?> so I guess we can be grateful to Signor Tatai for not 'believing' Karpov.

Apr-14-19  1stboard: What happens if white plays 24 Ne3 ? Does it hold ? ( I would think black then plays 24 Bh6 with all sorts of threats ... )

Can someone run through their chess engine

Apr-14-19
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  ChessHigherCat: <Walter Glattke: 23...e3 24. Qb3+ Be6 25. Qxe3 Bc4 26. Qxd4 Rxe2+ 27. Kf1 Bxd4 28. Bd5+ Bxd5 29. Kxe2 Bxh1

And black is a piece up:


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Apr-14-19  goodevans: <1stboard: What happens if white plays 24 Ne3 ?>

I looked at that as it has the merit of blocking the e-file. The trouble is that the N is needed on d1 to protect the b-pawn. Once it's moved things go downhill rapidly: <24.Ne3 Qxc2 25.Nxc2 Bxb2 26.Rd1 bxa3>.

White has lost both his Q-side pawns and stopping black's Q-side pawns is going to cost him at least a piece.

Apr-14-19  Walter Glattke: CHCat : Looks draw after 28.Ne3 Ba6 29.Bd5+ or 28.-Bxe3 29.fxe3 Rxb2+. Or maybe 25.fxe3 Qb6 26.Qxb4. so I prefer 22.-Qd3 before 22.-e3
Apr-14-19  Walter Glattke: Evidence: 29.-Rxb2+ 30.Nxc4 Rf8+ 31.Ke1 Rxg2 32.Rb1 R8f2 33.Rxb7 black initiative, but probably draw.
Apr-14-19
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  ChessHigherCat: <WG> 23...e3 24. Qb3+ Be6 25. Qxe3 Bc4 26. Qxd4 Rxe2+ 27. Kf1 Bxd4 28. Ne3

...Rxe3+! 29. Kg1 Re2 30. h4

leads to this position, where Bxb2-Bxa3 is even stronger than Rxf2 because of the passed pawns:


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Apr-14-19
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  Breunor: 1stboard, this is what Stockfish says happens on 24 Ne3:

1) -4.35 (24 ply) 24...Qxc2 25.Nxc2 Bxb2 26.Rd1 Bc3+ 27.Kf1 bxa3 28.h3 Bc8 29.Nxa3 Rxa3 30.Bxe4 Rxe4 31.Rd8+ Kf7 32.Rxc8 b5 33.e3 b4 34.Ke2 Bf6 35.h4 b3 36.h5 b2 37.hxg6+ Kxg6 38.Rg8+ Bg7 39.Rb8 Ra1 40.Rd1 Re6 41.Rb7 Rc1 42.Rdd7 b1=Q 43.Rxg7+ Kh6 44.Rxb1 Rxb1

Apr-14-19  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4 d 23 dpa done

1. = / + (-0.37): 22.0-0 Bg4 23.Re1 Bf5 24.Qc1 Bd7 25.h4 Bc6 26.Ne3 Qxb2 27.Qc4+ Kh8 28.Rac1 Qxa2 29.Qxb4 Ra4 30.Qc5 Rf8 31.Rc4 Qd2 32.Rf1 Ra5 33.Qb4 Qxb4 34.Rxb4 Re8 35.Rc1 Kg8 36.Nc4 Rc5 37.Rd1 Ra8 38.Nd6

2. = / + (-0.57): 22.Qc2 Be6 23.a3 Rac8 24.Qa4 Bf8 25.Nc3 e3 26.0-0 exf2+ 27.Kh1 b5 28.Nxb5 Qxb2 29.axb4 Bb3 30.Qa3 Qxa3 31.Rxa3 Bc4 32.Na7 Bxb4 33.Ra4 Rb8 34.Rxf2 Bc5 35.Rf1 Bxe2 36.Bd5+ Kh8 37.Rc1 Be3 38.Rc3 Rbd8 39.Bc6 Re6 40.Kg2 Kg7 41.Bf3

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